voy4g3r2: yeah

the best thing ever, chasing down a network performance issue on NFS to only find out your synology device is "going to sleep" on the hard drives.. and the delay i am experiencing is the drives spinning up... *doh*

D'Oh! But I assume that means those drives are probably WD Green drives or some such that sleep aggressively?

theyre... what's it various rpm which is shite for performance

how is 14.0 doing?

doing ok

feeling buggy much?

i havent done all the reading relevant to this but is there a way to make the kernel mount root (its on a sata drive) before poking at every potential usb device? i member reading openzfs tries to scan every possibly ahci-like device to identify pools so maybe i should look in that direction?

its not rare that a sloppy usb device plugged in messes with the boot sequence...

waht part of the boot sequence ?

bu beware usb mass storage is scsi (dont ask)

so if you're using /dev/daX for disk identification add usb devices could change the enumeration order

you may want to use docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/geom/#geom-glabel

Title: Chapter 21. GEOM: Modular Disk Transformation Framework | FreeBSD Documentation Portal

babz: before root is mounted anddd idk well the whole multistage thing ive spent most of my foss life on linux booting with efistubs so the chainloading aspect..ehhh

the "zfs scans all <x>-capable devices connected to mobo" that i member from the michael lucas book on zfs but it might be before /and/ after mounting

for a more practical "case": i have an old pool i use only for movies (data hoarding ishow i got her ein the first place) and for some reason if i dont disconnect the sata cables before booting mounting the root (which is on another pool) fails

equivalently the instaler will prompt for geli passwords with no "scrwe this" option which is kinda weird if you ask me

(that last example is from curesed moment where i mis wrote down a password for encryptedroot after a fresh install and had to rerun the installer and it kept promptingfor it and not letting me in, i dont recall what i did to get out of that)

press caps lock ? /s

uwu

uwu!?

*calls the uwu police*

ya turns out it wasnt a phase

ok :)

beign insufferably fake witty i mean, not being a scene person thast just weird

Just tried Wayland on FreeBSD 13.2 (using both Wayfire and Sway). Runs just fine. I have absolutely no idea why I'm unable to start wf-panel under Wayfire, though. A friend of mine also was unable to start it, but got a completely different error message.

*scratches head*

imstill stuck in nvidia land, speaking of, is dual gpu common on freebsd esktops? id like to keep that one to getback into playing numerical stuff that needs cuda but id love to ditch it for normal usage

cedb: eww, you'll quickly land in a world of weird forum posts and crazy patches...

cedb: It's not exactly common to even consider doing that, no.

i mean im on irc how much worse can it get

What's wrong with IRC?

I think IRC is the absolute one superior thing for close-to-realtime chat communication.

nothing but im clearly alrady logging into the larger missed connections section by people cursing their computers

Hmmm, okay. :)

Anyhow, people on forums report that this be possible using "Vulkan". I have never had a laptop with 2 GPUs. :)

i mean simple instant text msgs zgonna stay simple, not like i want to play asmr golf when debugging this gdmn computer

its not a laptop, msi ryzen board

ah okay.

maybe im getting "get off my lawn" old but running cuda on a laptop sounds like moral failure

cedb: so you want to use one gpu for graphics stuff and the other only for compute stuff and it shouldn't mess with the graphics stuff? (just to make sure I understand correctly what you want to archive, no idea about any dual-gpu setup)

nimaje: yaaa just one gpu doing wayland type stuff and the other for some gpgpu stuff, cant be that weird with all the crypto nonsense happened

i guess it being heterogenous

quick thoughts/question fo rthe group her: I am looking at rsync to make backups (zfs is NOT an option) and i came across this rsnapshot utility (written in perl and has to run as root :() and was wondering if there are any other utilities the channel would recommend looking at. I want to be able to make sure i can keep my SD card based system as opertioonal as possible, in the event the card "fails".

Thanks in advance.

hi all.

Any1 would view the Vendor summit day1

FreeBSD moog 13.2-RELEASE FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE releng/13.2-n254617-525ecfdad597 GENERIC amd64

reporting success! \o/

voy4g3r2: there's no need to run rsnapshot as root.

voy4g3r2: and there's also no requirement for you to deal with rsnapshot. it's probably NOT harder to write a custom 20-liner that wraps rsync itself, without rsnapshot, at all.

voy4g3r2: dealing with the rsnapshot configuration file (tabs are part of the syntax) is a PITA anyways (*IF* you want to do that remember ":set invlist" in vim!), so you could definitely just write your own (and learn rsync along the way, too!)

voy4g3r2: rsnapshot is cool software, I've been using it for years, but hm, then again, it's really a bit...weird? :)

armin: thank you for that.. that is how i use to do things but it was very linux oriented.. re-evaluating that script setup and seeing where it fits in bsd land.. as i have 2 raspberry pis and those ugly sd cards.

voy4g3r2: well all rsnapshot is, is, uhm, how do i put it, just a wrapper. rsync by ITSELF can do incremental backups for you.

agree.. and getting stuck in rysnc options land was NEVER fun, consolidationg of interface at the expense of a little more overhead :)

voy4g3r2: sure you can use rsnapshit^Wrsnapshot, why not, it's cool.

haha, if i only ever did things that are cool.. i would still be on my hp-ux box with dumb terminals in a hospital data center.. i am beyond that :)

voy4g3r2: it's just crazy weird, don't be surprised if you want a beer after configuring it. :)

OMG monochrome terminals on thinclients in terminal rooms of the university where we connected to HP-UX mainframes, YEA, those were the days! <3

insane in the mainfraaaaame! \o_ <o/

i even decomissioned a DEC box in 2000 because of y2k.. yes i am old

we moved the functinoality to said HP-UX box.. it was a beast 4cpu risc box

I loved HP-UX, boldly!

and AIX, also :)

armin@moog ~ = grep '^hw' /boot/loader.conf

hw.vga.textmode=1

armin@moog ~ =

hm, I would have expected this keeps KMS from changing my console font to something tiny, but it didn't, any hint?

hw.dri.0.modesetting=0 also has no effect, hm!

okeeee

Hey guys, I know this is lame but

I was reading the man page for `dns-sd`

And I say a example advertising a service for a web page:

`dns-sd -R "My Test" _http._tcp . 80 path=/path-to-page.html`

So I wa wondering. Can I host a static web page like that on my LAN? Or do I still need an actual web server?

seems you need a webserver "to advertise a web page being served *by an HTTP server* on port 80 on this machine"

God, I swear I didn't saw that

thanks nimaje

So... just for the sake of a demo. Can I like just use nc to simulate a server ^^

MY actual question is, how do I create a domain like my-cusomt-domain.local via dns-sd?

doesn't mdns just use <hostname>.local?

Will try

One last question for netcat `nc` how can I keep it open

if I do `nc -l 80 < file` it only works once

then it closes

well, you could use -k, but likely the first to connect will read everything and the next gets nothing

It's fine just did a while

I made it, it Wass there, the `dns-sd -P` example was exactly what I needed

God... I think DNS Service Discovery is really cool!

Really a shame it only gets used with AirPrint and what not

hm? "running on some other machine"?

Yeah, it worked it tell you

I think the idea there was from the perspective of the client

Namely you can proxy to whatever server you watn

want

as I understand it you should just need dns-sd -R on the serving computer

Yes, it even says the server doesn't need to be local

`dns-sd -P dans _http._tcp local 8080 dan google.com`

this makes `dan.local` and alias for google

yeah, but shouldn't just -R do what you want, instead of faking stuff via -P?

The veriexec talk from the FreeBSD Vendor Summit was _very_ interesting, and hearing Devin Teske talk about more-than-decade-old journey to fix jail network stability issues.

...is just utterly flabberghasting.

nimaje -R will register the service true, but I don't think it can offer a domain

what is the problem with using the automatic <hostname>.local? (or did I understand mdns wrong somewhere?)

I think -R is useful for when you have a dns-sd browser client like Safari had with Bonjour

to showup a page: "Configure printer"