Im looking to determine the negotiated link speed of an network interface, where would I find that?

thought that ifconfig might tell it simply.. but actually it doesn't - media says "autoselect"

V_PauAmma_V: rcorder does do -p, but rc_parallel_start got reverted back in f61831d2e8b and I don't know of anyone working on fixing it.

ok wasn't all too wrong, it is normally in the same line but not for if_ue ... there is also no manpage for this driver?

Also, C3 is out, so get your testing in asap.

megaTherion: I think if_cdce is what you want?

debdrup: true

It's now past 3, so off to bed with me.

goodnight

does anybody know if there are official AWS AMIs for FreeBSD?

I think I saw the annoucement somewhere not so long ago, but I can't remember where

ngortheone: Look in the release announcement about midway throught the Availavility section. freebsd.org/releases/13.2R/announce

Title: FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE Announcement | The FreeBSD Project

thanks

hmm,.. only UFS images

Are there ZFS images?

Don't know

It looks like there are ufs and zfs images for 14.0-RC3 that was announced a couple of hours ago.

niice

anyone got a blog with some nice zfs tutorials? ive read the books and all buti mean workflow wise yk

cebd depends on what you actually need. Search for Dan Langile's blogs, he posts good opeational notes, describing how he does things on FBSD

im mostly thinking snapshotting builds when i experiment with knobs on my poudriere jails

(thanks looking him upatm)

I also highly recommend checking out FreeBSD Journal

Title: Browser-Based Edition – FreeBSD Foundation

tons of top-quality articles.

oh hell yeah

"FAQ: why we moved to a free model" now thats the kind uno card i like

cant seem to find a link for a paid print subscription there isnt one right?

It was LONG time ago

Not anymore, I think, but you can donate. :-)

they never removed it

I think last paid issue was in 2014

V_PauAmma_V: i understand its not that i want to spend money its that i really paper

but i pay for my paper obv

I'd pay for paper edition as well

But I dunno if there is one

i tried to look for solid tech paper printed publications once and... ya no

I'd even buy all issues in paper in bulk

im tired of adjusting browser css to read blogs

sysutils/glow is neat though

reminds me, anychance of running sway (or anything wayland really) with my "NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060"? it worked on linux with nouveau but nvidia-drm-kmod just crashes with the fury of a thousand of luke's revelatoins

sway in nvidia is a known issue. I heard it got better in recent year. Nvidia caved in on EGLStreams and promised (or already did?) to support GBM

so it *should* work

so what technically would be in my kldlist for typing sway in a tty with seatd enabled to just work?

right now i have nvidia{,-modeset}.ko

ngortheone: this is waht ive got under boot/modules ix.io/4K7L

you have all drivers loaded at once :) I woundn't do that, but hey, if that works,...

I don't think you need more drivers

Title: GitHub - crispyricepc/sway-nvidia: Helper files to make sway a better experience for us poor NVIDIA users.

just googled it, never tried

its also a like 6 year old card so maybe

woush thanks ngortheone

Title: Sway - ArchWiki

also always read Archwiki, tons of useful tweaks even for non-linux

6 year old card is not an issue, make sure you have latest drivers installed

arch is my home distro on linux the aw is basically the manpages as far as im concerned :)

hmm i screwed up my gettytab setting up ly, can i just kill -somesignal the gettys on my non X ttys (this current one is working) or do i need to reboot?

(theyre full of nonsense colored artfacts those other ttys)

So, is there a way I can upgrade glibc for the Linux ABI? There's an app I'm wanting to run but the libc in the linux-c7-base is too old.

adb

erm

Good morning

anyone using 14 in light production?

V_PauAmma_V: i don't know how my keyboard managed to make "unsay" out of "that"

meena: very carefully, I imagine

Im trying to get an 2.5gbps usb ethernet adapter running, basically works with the if_ure driver (if you stop freebsd from assigning if_cdce) - but the throughput is still horrible.

Sorry, not really sure which parts to prod.

hello...i've hit a wall installing things from ports. i get the error: "<stdbool.h> does not exist on this platform. Use gnulib module 'stdbool-c99' instead of gnulib module" ...cant find anything online. it seems to occur with any build i try now

stdbool.h does belong to the c stdlib, how did you delete that?

usemore: but your system still has /usr/include/stdbool.h ?

usemore: what happenes when you run: echo '#include <stdbool.h>' | cpp

# 1 "/usr/include/stdbool.h" 1 3 4

-r--r--r-- 1 root wheel 1658 Oct 24 03:20 /usr/include/stdbool.h

then you need to give more context, ideally all in a pastebin

all output

CueXXIII, there was several lines ouput..didnt wanna get kicked

what pastebin do we use here typically?

see topic, or just chose one not annoying

ah yes

Title: dpaste/sSfa (Plain Text)

theres something...maybe not what youre looking for

that's not the complete output from the build

no, it isnt sorry

===> mpfr-4.2.1,1 depends on file: /usr/local/bin/makeinfo - not found

also noticed that

how do i redirect the build output to a text file? or what log file should i paste?

... 2>&1 | tee buildlog.txt

makeinfo is only for documentation file proocessing

Ambiguous output redirect.

uhh… csh? echo $SHELL outputs csh?

Title: dpaste/GyZs (Plain Text)

i think it all comes back to texinfo

and i previously searched for textinfo by mistake. just installed texinfo from pkg

my build is progressing

sorry for the bother

hm, cc broken? or do you have another cc binary? -> which -a cc

just /usr/bin/cc

things are building now

thanks for your help

what did you change?

(using poudriere or synth (is synth still maintained?) to build ports is a good idea, as that doesn't touch your system while building, so you aren't in some half-updated state that could be broken and they build in a clean environment)

CueXXIII, i just installed the missing texinfo pkg

hm, pretty sure the ports framework should handle that in some way and doesn't tries to build with missing dependencies and that error message seems really strange for that cause

i dont konw enough about it...just know it works now. thanks everyone.

Hi.

at the end of man wg there is a ref about wg-quick(8) but that man it's not installed. Is it a bug to fix in wg man?

building texlive on current makes tex-formats choke on this : [00:00:18] 'make: exec(/usr/local/bin/mktexlsr) failed (No such file or directory)'

woups sorry i thought i was in ports

ferz: well, wg-quick comes from a package, not sure if that reference should be removed, probably not, but maybe it should be made clearer somewhere, that wg-quick is third-party software

Hi all. What is a current CLI paste tool that works from FreeBSD 12.4? I have tried pastebinit-1.5.1 (which I have used successfully a while back), and wgetpaste-2.33 so far and neither of them seem to work to paste from the CLI now. It seems the pastebin end-points have changed the way they accept data and the CLI tools have not kept up.

hm, what do you want there? just putting stuff in some pastebin? I use a shell function for that pb () { curl --form "file=@${1:--}" 0x0.st }

dpaste.org can also easily be pasted to with curl

Nice. Okay, thanks!

but the easiest is termbin.com, which you can paste to with nc termbin.com 9999

for dpaste.org, you can use curl -s -F 'format=url' -F 'lexer=_code' -F 'content=<-' dpaste.org/api

the lexer arg can be used to select a language (_code is the "plain code" option)

Sweet! Thanks nimaje and RhodiumToad, you guys helped me learn new things today. :)

When I am pasting from the command line just like RhodiumToad I always use "| nc termbin.com 9999" because it's easy enough to type, no configuration needed, and I can (mostly) remember it.

If I am crafting a combined paste of several things I want to show all together and if I also want it on bsd.to (see topic) then after pasting to termbin.com several different pastes I can then transfer those and edit them into the combined several paste thing on bsd.to and then use it.

Title: dpaste

bsd.to is the same basic code as dpaste.org, but unfortunately it has a csrf token that means you can't paste to it simply with curl

probably some sitewide config thing

Hmm... A pastebin site with a csrf token for POST on a site that does not require login does seem like a conflict of goals there.

hm? afaiu csrf is a technique to make sure that the request was really wanted from the user and not somehow forged and would just need a second request via curl to extract the token first

nimaje: thank you

The explanation is more complicated but csrf tokens prevent one 3rd party site from exploiting a user being logged into another site which is good but the pastebin we use don't have logins and are all anonymous posting anyway so nothing to exploit.

It seems to me at the most likely guess is that some toolkit was used to produce the form and the Best Practice for forms in a logged in site is to always emit a csrf token and so it just happened.

I'm at a loss on how to progress with PR 273372 ... it is the only (major) problem I have with FreeBSD. Should I get on the mailing lists to discuss and troubleshoot? The bug tracker seems like a bit abandoned.

markmcb: I don't use this combo but maybe bring it up in #bhyve channel and mention its an SRIOV on chelsio

it seems like something other people would be using

dch: thanks, i didn't even realize there was one.

hi, any idea how to use terminfo db on freebsd?

because there is a pkg that says terminfo db somedate and there is also my terminal definitions, I have it installed but nothing seems to make use of it

some say that it needs to be read by termcap but I do not have any kind of infocap or whatever tool

I see that the infocmp tool is part of the base system on 14- but not included with 13-

aha, on 13- one needs to install the ncurses pkg

now I have the infocmp tool

looks like that terminfo is only being used by apps that are compiled, not fetched by pkg

when I compile tmux from ports, it works, when I fetch it from pkg, it says that he can not find terminfo database, of course, because he was not compiled with it

I thought that FreeBSD used termcap instead of terminfo? No?

well, but termcap is of no use

with terminfo installed and tmux compiled, he finds his way around

but since terminfo is part of freebsd since 14- it is about to change

I think openbsd and netbsd did that bold move earlier

Title: termcap(5) - NetBSD Manual Pages

but now that I understood that maybe I could get a shot at getting that termcap working too

sysutils/glow is outputing garbage that looks like a string of escape codes when used with the pager option but not otherwise (alacritty) any idea what coulod cause that?

ah, that works now too

(i quite like this tool, also alacritty, on i3)

was not that hard, but the tips on internetz are worng as hell again

I am on alacritty here

gustik: hmm i didnt scrolback that much but is your thread related to my issue somehow?

Put me down as liking terminfo over termcap on a technical level as being more lookup efficient, which is why it replaced termcap other places, but I haven't found termcap to be a problem myself.

cedb: no idea, but might be

hmm terminfo wsant installed

I was just doing proper adjustments so that alacritty works

I was surprised why niche terminal emulators like st worked but alacritty not, I found that the reason was that it's included in the termcap but alacritty is not

well yes but now im wondering why it wouldnt work cause im on current using alacritty

ahhhh

well, as I was talking before 14- has it included

I have tested with 13- and 14-

i just get this nonsense output: ESC[38;5;252mESC[0mESC[38;5;252mESC[0m ESC[38;5;252m:::ESC[0mESC[38;5;252m {#header}ES

ahh okay nvm i just hadnt set my pager to something else than else my bad

(glow is super neat btw)

what is glow?

aha

markdown to console?

ya but with cute colors, automatic fetching from the web and gpg stashing

probably nothing you wouldnt be able to shell tape together but its cute and not a hassle to build

i use it as kind of org mode methadone cause if i got there the rabbit hole just never stops for a couple days every single damn time