f/rhe

Has it really been this quiet here?

It would be nice to know what gpart is complaining about instead of just spitting out "invalid arugment". I'm trying to add a partition to a 4tb drive. 3tb of that is ufs. I want to create a 600gb partition for ntfs but I can't get anywhere with it. Latest command I've tried is: doas gpart add -i 2 -b 6442450984 -t ntfs da0 but I started out with "doas gpart add -t ntfs da0" and I get nothing but the

same error.

Ok, figured it out. After more reading the man page, the ntfs partition type is only for mbr, while ms-basic-data is on gpt.

Holy crap do I feel like I've learned a lot with FreeBSD's disk management the past few days with imaging an hd, shrinking partitions, create a smaller disk image and copying the filesystems over. Now this.

Evening folks. Is there a way to make a USB device available over the network? Maybe something that runs on one machine that "handles" a local port, and something that runs on another machine that presents a device, but uses the first machine as a "back end"?

gh00p, NFS?

Oh no. I missed "device" part. Sorry gh00p

No problem. But I thought the answer was always "DNS". :)

gh00p: you mean, something like this? usbip.sourceforge.net

Title: USB/IP Project

Yes! That, exactly! That project seems to be long dead, but is there anything current?

No idea, I just Googled.

Hello there. I've a freebsd server on which node.js processes are daemonized by pm2. Is there a way to use the OS to daemonize, instead of using pm2?

by utilizing built-in operating system features.

tercaL: daemon(8)

are the freebsd chats on irc, matrix, discord bridged?

there was a bridge between here and matrix, but it was disabled because of this: libera.chat/news/matrix-bridge-disabled-retrospective

Title: Matrix Bridge Temporary Shutdown, a Retrospective | Libera Chat

make sense.

matrix never seemed well thought out to me

just use xmpp :P

I really wanted to like matrix but the experience was just not there

could never find a good non-electron client either

i'm good. irc is enough for me

matrix is very clunky to implement a good client for, sadly somehow element is the most fully featured one

clunky is a good description for the matrix experience

just another "derp we can use web toolz to make an application"

protocols before platforms.

what's the point of a new protocol if it only runs on another protocol

entikan: most "new" stuff these days is a platform. twitter. facebook. not an open protocol or standard

matrix looks like they wanted a platform first, and protocol came second

choose well made durable protocols. xmpp

yeh I should. I'm also always open for new protocols.

like gemini! -audience cheers-

if only we could kill the web I'm soooo sick of it

hi all

entikan: grab your torch and pitchfork! =]

Demosthenex: I'll just be the change I want to see in the world and live in my tilde

urxvt for life!

How come all the ezjail documentation was dropped off the handbook?

Check the VCS log.

RypPn because it's old.

I guess

old alone isn't a reason, but unmaintained more so

I plugged in a USB keyboard to my laptop and I would like to dump the keymap that is being used with it. it seems I should use kbdcontrol but how can I specify the USB keyboard instead of the built in one? the only option that lets me specify a keyboard device is -k, and the description for -k says it changes the console keyboard to the specified device. I only want to view the state, not change it.

RypPn, I don't know but M. Lucas in his Jails book hinted that though ezjail was previously popular that it had become in need of updates to keep up with FreeBSD changes and those updates had not been happening. Without actually saying details about what ezjail needed, so I don't know either.

And then rather strongly suggesting by documenting iocage instead that iocage is the heir apparent to ezjail and to use iocage, or none, instead.

there's vm-bhyve too

be sure to check that out

Does it matter what MQTT broker I run? Is mosquitto sort of the de-facto standard?

Hi there. If I'm upgrading from 12.2 to 13.2, (1) should I upgrade to 12.4 first, to get things current, or just jump straight to 13.2, and (2) what steps should I take to make sure conf files I have modified (i.e. sshd_config, etc) get the changes they may need?

gh00p, For (1), I don't think you to, but it's hard to break old habits, I still do intermim upgrades "just in case". For (2), check the man page for etcupdate(8).

Thanks.

when there's a new patch release like for security stuff, we can run freebsd-update fetch and install. what we can't do is download a new .iso with that patch already applied. but is there a middle ground like a git repo for 13.2 that always has the latest freebsd-update code? so if we pull it, build it, and install it, freebsd-update will report

up to date. ty!

polyex, What you are poking at there is the difference between RELEASE, STABLE, and CURRENT. The git repository has branches that follow each of those.

It's a little confusing but around this documentation docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/cutting-edge/#current-stable is one of the places this is discussed.

Title: Chapter 26. Updating and Upgrading FreeBSD | FreeBSD Documentation Portal

I'll dare say that most of the newcomers (myself included) mostly use the binary update streams using freebsd-upgrade and pkg. It works very well. And then by default that follows RELEASE.

But it is also possible to move to STABLE which is updated somewhat more often IIUC quarterly.

And then there is CURRENT which is the daily bleeding edge of things.

Long time traditional users at one time were all required to compile from source. And so many (most?) long term users do source compilation. Which has moved to git repositories.

What people want to do is up to them to decide what is best for themselves. It's rather a flexible system with a lot of choice.

gh00p, If you are using ZFS then you will automatically get Boot Environments. With those it is much safer to upgrade. One can always boot the previous environment if there are problems.

But I usually upgrade to the latest patch release before upgrading to the next major release anyway. I might have a snag right at the start which that will find before I change everything with a major upgrade.

but if i clone the git repo to get the latest updates then i have to build the whole OS right?

so there's no iso we can download after each patch level update? wtf

what's the most direct path from git clone freebsd-src to having an installer iso just like we can download from freebsd.org?

i don't need a custom kernel or anything. i just want a default installer iso for every patch level update to 13.2

polyex: do you mean building your own image?

ya because i guess i have to. freebsd project doesn't provide it

Do you mind telling me why you need them?

so when i stand a box up it's already up to date

I guess most of us aren't in a hurry to update. XD

Sorry I haven't built an ISO, hopefully someone else can assit you.

So, FreeBSD seems to do really well with laptops. Max temperature at the moment is 38C and that's with the laptop vent partially covered with a blanket. Now if only I could figure out how to get xscreensaver to lock before it goes to sleep after closing the lid.

can i somehow build a freebsd installer in a temporary dir? i'm getting make buildworld error /usr/obj/usr permission denied, but i just want to build into ~/temp/freebsd-iso

can't find anything about that in the handbook. it's just on building and using, not building and making an installer iso

polyex: the permission error is because you generally need to write to /usr/obj when building FreeBSD

as for how to build images, checkout the scripts in release/ and maybe this article for inspiration: klarasystems.com/articles/deploying-freebsd-on-oracle-cloud

Title: Deploying FreeBSD on Oracle Cloud | Klara Inc

I repeat: FOR INSPIRATION, not for step by step instruction

re permissions: if you chown /usr/obj to your own User, you can buildworld and buildkernel, but all install and image building and stuff like that will need root