is there any way to do a one-time reboot without supplying a passphrase for geli-encrypted an OS disk? like where it issues a single use key? would be nice to do something like "reboot --autodecrypt"

yuripv: not ignoring your question (re: localedef), just trying to find the right words

actually, there's an easy way to do this

BillyJoeBob: the default is to use /compat/linux/ for the linux libs, there is some sysctl, so either you change that to /compat/ubuntu/ or you move your /compat/ubuntu/ to /compat/linux/

good morning everyone

i finally got suspend/resume to work on freebsd but when i resume my wifi does not work until i reboot my machine has anyone ran into this issue and if so what did they do to get around it

have you tried resetting the interface?

script something to disable the problematic hardware before suspend and re-enable it after suspend

its always the networking hardware that causes this kind of troubles...

Anyone using Pot (jail management tool) under FreeBSD? I cannot find jail startup sequence configuration in it. Any idea would be much appreciated.

With raw, home-made Jails, I had jail_list="sqljail phpjail webjail" and jail_reverse_stop="YES" in my rc.conf, however how to configure these in Pot?

ok, so i use zrepl locally on my laptop, and zrepl locally on my home server. i want to start copying my laptop with it's local snapshots fully to the server. anyone seen an example configuration?

any idea?

tercaL: i'm using bastille. haven't tried pot. maybe read it's rc script?

i'm trying to get my head around pf syntax and routing. if i want a bsd router to establish a tunnel and use it as the upstream gateway, how would i masquerade traffic using pf? em0: upstream, em1: LAN to be nat'ed, tun0: tunnel over em0

happy to pastebin additional info if needed. thanks

the other end of the tunnel knows nothing about the network on this side, so masquerading is required

Hello. I am having problems with my install

When I try to install pkg

It says these errors:

Here is the entire input

pkg install pkg

The package management tool is not yet installed on your system.

Do you want to fetch and install it now? [y/N]: y

Bootstrapping pkg from pkg.freebsd.org/freebsd:11:armv6/latest, please wait...

pkg: Error fetching pkg.freebsd.org/freebsd:11:armv6/latest//Latest/pkg.txz: Not Found

A pre-built version of pkg could not be found for your system.

Consider changing PACKAGESITE or installing it from ports: 'ports-mgmt/pkg'.

maybe pkg install ports-mgmt/pkg

Same error

got ports installed ?

cd /usr/ports/ports-mgmt/pkg

make install

No ports

freebsd 11 is unsupported so no packages

aaaah

I am not even sure there was some armv6 packages at all for freebsd 11

i missed that part

time to install ports man

freebsd 11 EOLed in september 2021!

and ports from that time

Got another machine with the same error with bsd 13 but with a different sentence: instead of not found it says Host does not resove

that probably means you don't have dns set up correctly?

How do I do that

I have ethernet attached

static network addresses or dhcp?

Dhcp

did the dhcp server provide a nameserver address? if so, it'll be in /etc/resolv.conf

No

is anything in /etc/resolv.conf?

Let me check

and if not, have you configured local-unbound or some other local dns resolver?

No name In resolv.conf

I did not

The installation did everything

Also how do I set the layout?

layout of what?

Keyboard

in the installer, there's an option to set nameserver addresses, and another one to enable local-unbound, I assume you set neither

these are some basic questions answered by the handbook

Thanks

if you're talking about the text console and not X, then use kbdcontrol to set the keyboard layout; you can do it automatically on boot with keymap="whatever" in /etc/rc.conf

Also i have noticed that when I try to install freebsd on another network, it shows the name

to get dns working, you either need to set up and run local-unbound or put some nameserver IPs in /etc/resolv.conf

shows what name?

The one missing you were talking about

if you're using dhcp and the dhcp server provides nameserver IPs, those will get written to resolv.conf while the connection is up

Permission denied

add ... "nameserver 1.1.1.1" to resolv.conf

Error:can't find sockey: permission denied for ::1 port 53

after ping freebsd.org

Socket

How do I edit it?

im out

XD

Joking

not so sure about that at this point

ee

I'm not that noob in freebsd

.... so there was no point in asking

Nameserver is set at 127.0.0.1

is that the only entry in resolv.conf?

No

then what else is there

Options edsn0

what is on the other end of the ethernet cable?

an apple

back

wait sorry thats italy ... that would be a grape

??

oh wait

su does not work

su: Sorry

you are not part of wheel

how can i be part of it

again covered in the handbook. at least it used to be

it used to be

(I really suck at BSD btw)

na. you are just uninformed.

take your time

print out the handbook kick back and read my friend

knowledge only comes with time and patience

don't forget repetition

"patience"

yea yea i had no patience for repetition with spelling in some cases

with 2GB ram, a trashy processor and the battery going off every 3 seconds patiente is assured!

even my GNU Guix thinkpad T420 has better specs

yikes

do you also use linux?

when i first installed FreeBSD on a dell back in 2001 i did it probably close to 20 times

slackware since '94

after that every other linux flavor came naturally

wow!

did i misspell that

yes

Title: Mina Galić - Ops to Dev

what are you referring to linux is in fact GNU/Linux

don't mind the spelling its been a long night with 30 minutes of sleep

re repetition and stuff

just take it as it sounds

ok "linux" user

its been a toy since 2001

slackware has too old packages for me

how can you work with it?

thats just plain ole bs

i started on slackware in '95. was alright ;]

oh

i went to -current for the latest and greatest about 2 years after i started

it got so much worse

now the iso includes ALL the major desktop environments

that combined with slackpkg i built my own for whatever i needed

frafusco1: yep. linux has progressively sucked more and more, i moved to freebsd just over a year ago, what a refreshing change.

demosthenex, ikr

i am planning to use it togheter with BSD

CmdLnKid: they are determined to make it windoze 2.0, where i want a UNIX workstation and open server.

maybe install the guix package manager on BSD

is that possible?

Demsothenex is has become unbearable

Hi! Can I use bastille safely to export a running container or should I stop it first?

no guix in ports

Demosthenex*

no way to compile it from source?

and thats where packages originate

ok how do i do that?

why couldn't you

on the surface guix sounds neat, but... i'm not confident in the implementation, nor do i want to bolt it onto fbsd

i find i worry much less about packages now that i'm on fbsd

no need when the command line is simple enough

the separation between OS and packages is brilliant

i dunno about brilliant but surely was a solid thought

maybe with debian/kFreeBSD?

oh gawd don't go there

Ronis_BR: "export"?

Demosthenex: I think it uses zfs send

Ronis_BR: most things you have to stop in order to copy/clone accurately, so i'd imagine you have to stop it unless explicitly documented otherwise

thanks!

Title: export — Bastille 0.10.20230714-beta documentation

so, that's not clear on what the output is (a tarball?), but ZFS can do online. who knows about your appdata

Demosthenex: I got confused by that text. It says UFS must not be running, which seems that ZFS can.

why not?

your safe measure would be to shutdown in any circumstance for a proper backup/export etc.. as a snapshot etc will not save you running memory

oh

without a shutdown things may not flush to disk

back to the problem i selected to install portswith the installer

that would be called saving state

but when i booted it says ports command not found

frafusco1, you'll be looking for portsnap in the docs

ok so can install pkg from there?

ofcourse you could do it with git but i feel like that is a little more advanced than what you are ready for

portsnap is deprecated

i can use git

what was it replaced with ? i must have not been there for that

ok so how can i install it?

how do you expect to download anything with no working dns?

whait i just noticed that i have a cursor

Ronis_BR: yeah, at first glance it sounds like it takes a ZFS snapshot and tarballs that. again, running services may be inconsistent in the export if it's running

that means that i have at least 1 x dependency installed

oh lord he discovered a cursor

why does it mean that?

=#

xcursor

that surely works on UNIX

...what

lol

yeah

this is BSD foo

in my best mr t voice

ok so the cursor has 0 dependencies on x?

also why is it installed

to many to list

there is a mouse cursor on the text console, but iirc only if you enabled moused (which is part of the base system)

git clone ssh://anongit⊙gFo/ports.git

systemd?

there is no systemd

remove your current /usr/ports directory first

no git found (lol)

there is no git in the base system, you can't use it to get the ports tree for a fresh install

i wasn't expecting to be there by default

but this is all futile until you have working dns

frafusco1: no systemd? you're welcome.

ok what init then?

welcome to an OS that isn't infected.

wuuut

init is just init

frafusco1: init is more freebsd specific than you're used to, but it makes lots better sense ;]

i've heard that systemd in in bsd

you heard wrong

you did not

am i allowed to swear here?

no :)

the famous BSD init scripts?

thank god pottering left redhat and hired on at micro$oft. he can go ruin another OS

13:22 Ignoring ALL from frafusco1 [ignore ends: 2023-09-05 13:52:44]

i can't take this anymore

oh :(

well, he's learning

study up /etc/rc.conf, you'll get it rapidly

thank you

well glad there is no systemd in there! GNU sheperd and BSD-style scripts revealed to be better

frankly, init should be as simple as possible to troubleshoot.

i just DGAF if a user has to wait 1 minute more during boot before they get GNOME, or watch ugly startup messages.

1 minute???

that's crazy

fbsd's init could be a little dumber, but its ok ;] i don't often miss inittab

whatching ugly startup messages isn't that bad

i want services to start sequentially, as long as they take :P

Demosthenex: thanks!

...

frafusco1: premature optimization is the root of all debugging hell

ok

what about a plymouth theme that covers them?

to nat all packets from 192.168.56.0/24 going out over a wireguard interface, is this the correct rule? nat on wg0 from 192.168.56.0/24 to any -> (wg0)

it look like it's exhausting the TTL for pings ... ICMP time exceeded in-transit

frafusco1: nope.

frafusco1: gimme that glorious serial console look any day

gtg

Welp, poettering wouldn't be able to ruin Windows. It's already ruined after 3 decades of technical debt and ugly spagetti code for backwards compatibility. ;P

cant wait for the influx of smart clothing for all the new generations ... interestingengineering.com/science/…lion-in-smart-surveillance-clothing

Title: US govt. invests $22 million in smart surveillance clothing

sorry to bring this up here but hoping its not powered by bsd

zzz

although on the otherhand id like to control my bsd systems by voice through my UnderBSD

I'd probably configure my UnderBSD to disable the microphone and video first, and then setup a cron job during the winter to increase clothing temperature to keep me warm during the day.

reminds me of how to make toast with the early docs in linux (or was it coffee")

and use the AC cooling function during the hellish heatwave seasons during the late summer.

tha good ole days of serial ports on everything

halt and catch fire

"yeah i know serial ports did not have anything to do with that

Honestly, this is f***ed beyond belief. We already have Big Brother watching through our phones, IoT devices that connect to the internet, and through some desktop OSes, and now our clothes?

Flock is a big concern

these flocksafety.com/devices/lpr ... are on every major street corner lately

Title: LPR

at least where i live

and thats milwaukee, US

MI is worse ATM

anyway tho sorry for the off topic and not really meant for this channel more than a so called advertisement for self reasearch

on the TV news yesterday evening, estimates that there are 40k cars in circulation with copied registration numbers (license plates)

equally off topic

yep. im interested in using freebsd systems to track these events now

or if anyone has started

cause this shits getting out of control

intention of my message is purely to spur interaction with like efforts

There's #freebsd-social.

It exists for this.

yeah probably a better place. thanks

ending my involvment in this channel with ... post this to your license plate ... (not an advertisement) photoblocker.us/products/the-photoblocker-spray

Title: No More Red Light Camera Tickets. Make Your Car Invisible To Police Speed Cameras With Our License Plate Cover, PhotoBlocker Spray, Radar Detectors, GPS, GPS Camera Detectors. Got A Traffic Ticket? Don’t Pay Yet. We Can Help Fight Your Speeding Citation and Win.

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Not sure why it was necessary to paste that in here.

momennt of shock and current channel. what i use... FreeBSD and interested in using that in further efforts

hence why i tried to appologize for the off topic nerve jerk behavior

hello how can I get the forums to not demand javascript?

I can't browse it in the terminal now :(

but I need to because I don't have X yet

really who even came up with this. It's not even that interactive -_-

hrm… that's the wrong side of the pipe… bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=273582 for tty(1) to tell

Title: 273582 – man: check if run in a pipe before invoking MANPAGER

Hello, after configuring the network and fixing all problems I got this error when trying to install pkg i got this error: pkg: failed to extract pkg-static: Failed to create dir '/usr/local/sbin'

Did you run it as root?

Hi, I'm trying to add a nic alias in /etc/rc.conf. The original nic is: ifconfig_bge0="inet 192.168.100.245 netmask 255.255.255.0" and the alias ifconfig_bge0_alias0="inet 192.168.0.245 netmask 255.255.255.0". When I restart netif I get ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCDIFADDR): Can't assign requested address

Why I cannot add that alias?

martinrame: that's strange

cccccclvlvgrfijdlbedfbfriedbdgjjuivbffjlncvu

meena: what does that mean?

signalblue: that's me or something touching off my yubikey

no it's you

you can change your yubikey to longpress so it's harder to accidentally boop

i did it on my laptop because it was just too easy to hit the thing when i picked up the laptop

martinrame: does it work manually?

meena, martinrame was moved offline