That's the cool thing with having quarterly and latest repos in FreeBSD. Need fixed version stability? Use quarterly. Need rolling upgrades? Use latest.

FreeBSD packages updates: have it your way

github.com/Freaky/portacl rc script for mac_portacl

Title: GitHub - Freaky/portacl: A FreeBSD rc(8) script for mac_portacl(4)

can one interface be a member of two bridges or is that asking for trouble?

kevans: heh, sorry for not giving you credit for fixing kassert as well. I do appreciate your effort. Thanks for saving me from that!

Freaky: you should consider pushing that into base

meena: that's the plan

How can I query size of block device?

i.e. blockdev --getsize64 /dev/foo in Linux

diskinfo /dev/foo, third field

Thanks!

ccx: there's also kern.geom.conftxt and confxml

those are somewhat harder to parse

but don't need root to access

conftxt is certainly within the realm of a trivial bit of awk

the hard part is working out which device is the one of interest :-)

❯ sysctl -n kern.geom.conftxt | awk '$3 == "da0" { print $4}'

5000981078016

I have a jail with a nullfs mount, I created a symlink (ln -s) but for some unknow reason I can't remove the symlink ... any idea?

Does tracing it with (d)truss give any clues?

when I'm $> rm symlink it says that it's a directory

let me try with truss..

your "rm" isn't an alias is it ?

be sure by just calling /bin/rm symlink

Title: gist:0c216d89da3d657fb9695d5df417f353 · GitHub

same

root@www-py38-2022Q2:/usr/local/www/sites/moths # /bin/rm media/

rm: media/: is a directory

this is very strange

Freaky: maybe try to get it into 14? one week left before stable branches :O

don't add the trailing /

oh.. right

;)

thanks

np

completions can be a bitch with symlinks on directories

yeah

just wait till you find a symlink that was created with (ln -sf 'symlink/' /path/foo)

well shit, that used to work

it's been normalized sometime in the past 20 or 30 years, or however long i've used Unix

yeah

i seem to recall doing that for a test somewhere back in '06 ish

i think I've been using a Unix for about 22~ years.

'94 here with slackware linux

'01 with freebsd 4.11-RELEASE bought from staples

I started using a computer at home about a month or two before starting computer school in 2000 (when I was sixteen), and it took about less than months to get sick of Windows

but I think I only started on FreeBSD when I got my Apache commit bit.

i don't think 4.11 was out in 01, because i frist tried freebsd 4.6 and it was like.. 02 i think?

the dates don't sound so far away but it's so hard to remember :-( i'm old now

could have been close to there

was with a friend getting office supplies and other stuff when i seen it and thought im'a going to buy it "Power to Serve" caught my eyes

and the price was right

still have the disc's framed and the book that came with it

the dates of releases are all in /usr/share/misc/bsd-family-tree

FreeBSD 4.11 2005-01-25 [FBD]

4.3 and 4.4 were out in 01

hmmm maybe my dates are off

maybe it is 4.4

the complete freebsd book is copyrighted 1999

mfsroot.flp

remember thisp

?

yes

im going to have to locate the discs in storage now

4.6 was my first

2.1.[67] here

3.2 or 3.3. did a few floppy installs and at least one over ppp

ISBN: 1-57176-246-246-9 came with the set

i do enjoy when in this channel i go, gosh, I'm old, and other people chime in, to make me feel young.

old old meena

lol meena

yw

i luckily had whole 256k/64k dsl at the time i had to install fbsd

never ask a woman here age... ask her what freebsd she started with

CmdLnKid: made my day

you ask a random woman that you will either get a version number ... or a slap in the face

CmdLnKid: shortly before VIMAGE was merged into GENERIC.

unsure why slap

that does't give you age

just playing around. slap in the face cause BSD might just sound like something else

bad joke

which version of freebdsm you started with

hahaha

there ya go

i often write that and bsdm and correct it

:/

s/and/as/

its too easy

so, i think i started with 8, or 9, and very definitely worked with 10. my memory isn't great anymore these days

definately was 4.4 maybe 4.2 here.

haven't been to my storage yet

all i know tho is 5 was absolute shit

best part i had about 5 was my roommate wanted to use the internet but she was computer illiterate and a only microsoft user that was always provided to her and caught her trying to figure out my freebsd station

the confusion when she only seen a login prompt was priceless

5 was a necessary evil in between 4 and 6

yeah

those giant locks were some hell

my logs showed login attempt from amy

i was like are you friggin serious

I started with 5.something

good times

I've always been too dumb to stop when something hurts

2.1 was the first FreeBSD that I installed

ones came out

who installed 1?

and <1

pre-fbsd

;)

don't worry im not long behind you

1.0 is bit early for me

as i was 10

although i would have tried

if presented

soviet union had just collapsed, hell with computers

I used Apollo Domain OS and HP-UX 7 before FreeBSD, and various "PC" OSes (PC-DOS 3+, OS/2 2.0+)

which also required having friends

i don't people

;)

with an n even

paulf: the age?

must be 60

me? 56. the computers? early 90s

late 80s for PC-DOS

yeah close

just turned 40 recently

paved the gateway

40y1w2d

4.2 BSD. And before that, Edition 7.

im as old as 3 years after ARPANET was created

from 1975, misquoted

i only read about ot back then

hp-ux is STILL a thing

why oh why

ikr

i feel really aweful for those companies

VMS is still a thing and making a pretty amazing comeback

ecited for the security

well variation is good

aix too

there

and yes ... deathrow is dead

$term session expired

How might I start diagnosing a rather noticeable delay during the boot process? The system stops at a certain point in the boot process (logs incoming) for right around 60 seconds. It does nothing, and responds to nothing. After this, it seems fine, with no evidence of any further issues.

And the last line output to console before the freeze is: ugen0.2: <QEMU QEMU USB Tablet> at usbus0

(This is on a fresh 13.2R install, fully patched)

KVM VM on Vultr. I thought that this might have been the virtio_random thing I ran into ages ago, but this has different behavior.

is that with verbose on?

(if not, do it again with verbose)

On it.

oh, if this is a VM, maybe disable the presumably pointless sound driver?

That's just a devmatch_blocklist entry in rc.conf, iirc?

no

you'd need a hint in /boot/loader.conf

hint.hdaa.0.disabled="1" and hint.hdac.0.disabled="1"

Thank ya.

Verbose enabled, sound devices disabled I think.

Same delay, same place.

is there anything else in loader.conf?

Just what's put there by default at install time. Want me to paste it?

y

so i just deleted the package 'polybar' (which has pulseaudio as its dependency), so during the deletion process it mentioned that i should manually remove the "pulse" user, the "pulse" group, the "pulse-access" group, and the "pulse-rt" group. when i ran 'rmuser' to delete the 'pulse' user, it asks me to confirm whether or not i would like to remove the user's home directory (/nonexistent). it's

fine to do so right? just trying to make sure it's not some sort of place holder home directory ('cuz i noticed a lot of other user accounts in /etc/passwd also has /nonexistent as their home folder.

lots of users have that as their homedir, but it should never actually exist so you shouldn't be able to remove it :-)

RhodiumToad: thanks :P

RhodiumToad: termbin.com/qmzm

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