anyone have rails/passenger running? i'm stumped on a javascript runtime error that i do not encounter with the same app in a Void Linux instance

meena: the amount of horsing around to get the ipv6 added to the network and so on, i'd probably not do it again, considering i don't have ipv6 in most places :|

markmcb, Compare the resulting files from both and see where they are different from each other. That will be the clue.

CCFL_Man: also, if the data is redundant or backed up, you might run a test that involves writes.

I'd boot from UBCD to run HDAT2 and perform a R/W/R/C test.

grahamperrin: thanks! i can boot HDAT2 via the ipmi interface. does it support USB controllers though?

looks like i'll have to connect it to the sata controller to run the test

i put in an RMA request with WD as it's still under warranty

rwp: no errors found

rtprio, yes, the autostart flags is set in rc.conf. vmhost server itself reboots normally, with all guest machines start as intended

huh, this looks like a hipster version of Windows 11 DE for FreeBSD: reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/14p2s…ladies_and_gentlements_prototype_20

Title: ladies and gentlements!!!! ProtoType 2.0 : freebsd

kenrap, it's been removed

what was it

maybe this? reddit.com/r/swaywm/comments/1116t0p/sway_waybar_ultra_instint

Title: sway & waybar ultra instint ? :) : swaywm

actually it's a perfect night to install FreeBSD

It looks kind of like that but with a black/orange-ish hacker theme. I think the one you shared looks better imo.

yeah, microsoft did tests

the research said that teal, and eventually blue, were the most ideal colours for a desktop

weird how people obsess over blue light now

ironically, blue lighting emitting from our screens is bad for our eyes

but it feels so good

I know.

can you flash a freebsd img file from Android? or only while rooted?

You can flash the usb installer img using the EtchDroid app

good to know

i'm just using rufus

rufus is also good

Okay I'm going in

rdr: have fun

I've been enjoying 14-CURRENT as a daily driver recently. grahamperrin's reddit comments gradually rubbed off on me. I really need to learn to use boot environments in case when an upgrade breaks

Oh I'm just going for 13.2

I'd say, go for 13.2 first and if nothing is biting you while using it, stick with it.

Although if you're feeling ambitious, then surf on the CURRENT wave

Definitely recommend lurking in the CURRENT mailing lists as well

FreeBSD has two modes: beep repeatedly, and break everything

Lol jk. But I might have hosed my windows partition

I swore I chose my Intel SSD which was free

It did delete efi entries it thought was FreeBSD though

I'll try using a Windows boot disk to reinstall or repair tomorrow, it's too late

You probably need to restore the windows efi boot loader

and select the approriate boot loader through your bios/uefi's boot manager when dual booting

Oh I couldn't see the windows drive in my boot menu

Either the EFI is gone or the drive is dead lmao

Or maybe my computer just stopped recognizing it for some reason

I might have installed to the wrong drive, I thought I was being careful

I think the Windows partition is still there, you just need to use the installer usb and boot into recovery mode and fix the boot loader. FreeBSD probably overwrote the efi entry for Windows.

And if not, oh well.

Hope so, installing again is annoying

Yeah I have backups

👍

Time to sleep. Night

Have a good night

rtprio: it's really frustrating that i have to pay for IPv6 to

good morning

rtprio: it's really frustrating that i have to pay for IPv4 to test basic things, because none of the carriers out here where I live bothered to roll out IPv6

I feel like I need to speak about this reddit post: reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/14ojv8b/amdgpu_fails_to_boot

Title: AMDGPU fails to boot : freebsd

I had a similar problem to the OP when I couldn't load the `amdgpu` driver with my 6600XT. When I rebooted without the driver, I looked into the message logs and it said I was missing the firmware bin for it which drm-515-kmod didn't provide. So, I git-clone'd from the linux-firmware repo and copied the appropriate firmware to /boot/modules/amdgpu_dimgrey_cavefish_sos.bin, then `kldload amdgpu` and boom, it worked

gday

is there standard way to validate rc.conf for errors

"shellcheck" could check the syntax (for a shel script) but do not know of anything which would also check the variables names & if contents make sense

s/shel/&l/

Well, something does check the second part after the boot; look in /etc/rc* somewhere

parv, "shellcheck"

?

"pkg search -x shellcheck"

ah the port ...

will see.. but nothing standard on "as is" system ?

same "shell check" will be to pass rc.conf to a csh, for example

Not that I know of. Perhaps one could write something at least to check if quotes are balancde

s/balancde/balanced/

No idea about csh code

ok thanks

"shellcheck" just checks if the file given is a valid shell script

RhodiumToad imgur.com/woEfd2g.png  the luajit issue comes again after `pkg update`

Beladona, Had you tried "pkg lock" to not have those updated?

parv doing

parv is this ok imgur.com/ezQYpkL.png

juajit -devel and luajit conflict. I wonder how both can even be installed

Beladona, Yeah. If both install any of the files the same location, that would be a problem

so what should I do?

loc `luv` as well?

Does "luv" uses "luajit" 2.0.5?

it says Installed packages to be REINSTALLED:

 luv-1.44.2.1_1 (direct dependency changed: luajit-devel)

luv seems to want luajit-devel

What does "luv" currently use?

how can I know?

See "--dependencies" option of "pkg-info(8)"; pkg info -d luv

it depends on luajit and libuv

so I think I should lock luv too

right/

right?*

Yup. Lock them all up

Does "neovim" use "luv">

s/>/?/

yes

I have to lock neovim now

so i can't upgrade it

Beladona, Do note that if other dependencies (not locked) change, "neovim" and/or "obs-studio" may break

... because they were not updated (due to being locked)

Better solution would be to have "luajit" & "luajit-devel" be installed in different places; and/or "obs-studio" be updated to work with "luajit-devel"

I do wonder if one or the other would work if installed via The Ports ...

parv i also wonder why this has not been fixed by freebsd or the package maintainers yet

is this just my system or all have it?

sorry disconnected

Beladona: i would open a ports … meta? bug, and ask dependencies to be bumped to luajit-devel where possible, and also what parv suggested, failing that, make the two install in different locations if somehow possible

Beladona, you can edit multimedia/obs-studio/Makefile: LIB_DEPENDS_amd64=libluajit-5.1.so:lang/luajit-devel and rebuild obs-studio

VVD: that's feels like a big rebuild…

we could also tell her to run PostgreSQL in a jail, that could shield her from rebuilding that, but again, that's putting the onus on many individual users who might just wanna be able to use PostgreSQL and neovim at the same time, which doesn't seem like that big of an ask

and while I'm well aware that those two things are maintained by different people / teams, they can easier coordinate among themselves, than expecting every single user to find this issue, find out how to rebuild ports, and fix dependency issues

(this is probably the reason why debian only releases every 12 years or so: you can install a lot of debian packages along side before hitting conflicts, and it's the packagers that make it work)

I see

is this bug for ALL of you as well?

meena you mean debian is more stable?

I rebuild with help of RhodiumToad few days ago but it seems it occured again after `pkg update`

VVD If my system is messed up. I can reinstall freebsd

Beladona, if you use self build ports - don't use pkg update

I am not sure if I ever used self-build ports

I'm pretty sure that's what you were instructed to do.

debdrup I am not too much familier with the jargon. So doing `make` is self built `port` ?

if so, then yes VVD . Thats what RhodiumToad helped me do so. But now I have locked the packages. I can live with locking neovim as well now?

Beladona35, multimedia/obs-studio need to be fixed.

As a temporary woraround you can build it self with fixed Makefile.

MAINTAINER= yuri⊙Fo

VVD ok. How to do that exactly? I mean specific command?

Beladona35, what branch of ports to u use - main or quarterly?

not quarterly

latest I think

Do u have ports tree locally?

If so - update it.

Edit /usr/ports/multimedia/obs-studio/Makefile:

replace "LIB_DEPENDS_amd64= libluajit-5.1.so:lang/luajit" with "LIB_DEPENDS_amd64= libluajit-5.1.so:lang/luajit-devel" (just add "-devel" at end)

pkg delete -yf obs-studio && cd /usr/ports/multimedia/obs-studio && make install clean

VVD ok if I skip it and live with no updates for obs, neovim. will that be ok?

Beladona35, I think yes. If you don't care about new features or other updates of both ports.

vishwin, u are here too

VVD ok, I am noting what you wrote. will try to fix. So even if I reinstall fbsd, this issue will come again?

Beladona, yes. obs and neovim depends on conficting versions of luajit.

and so does postgresql VVD ?

Beladona, what about postgresql?

I had similar conflict with pg and kdenlive but i forgot

because obs doesn't use the USES= framework for luajit

it appears to hardcode for a case that USES=luajit covers already

vishwin I see

Beladona, similar with luajit or with something else?

VVD similar conflict but I forgot

Beladona, don't see luajit in deps of postgresql

VVD tell me. Is this normal in opensource world of linux and freebsd?

VVD there was some issue with pg and kdenlive. Iirc, was simlar but forgot it

it might be in channel history if logged

VVD are there more stabler and more rock solid distros/OS/releases where such bug do cannot even put its feather in?

I have istalled postgresql15-client-15.3 and kdenlive-23.04.2 without any ssisues on 2 different hosts.

VVD i see

Usually it's 3rd party applications issues, not base OS.

Beladona: conflicts are normal in open source unfortunately

they are worse in academic/scientific software

I see

this isn't a commercial shop

I know. but freebsd has paid support as well? That won't include these free apps like obs

I guess

not really

there's companies who do provide commercial support, but they're completely unrelated to the project

there exist commercial entities that base their stuff on FreeBSD and such

but what debdrup said

Q: does freebsd allow them to beincluded in main ports?

that's not really a question that's easy to answer

obs-studio is part of the ports tree because it's opensource software, but in the past there's been binary software included in the ports tree too

ok

freebsd does not provides commercial support?

i can't think of any that're in the tree, but the biggest impediment is usually finding a ports committer who's interested in working on the software

the project doesn't provide commercial support, no

it's a volunteer opensource project, not a commercial venture like redhat or IBM

ok

there's no gotcha listed on that page on the website

happy fourth everyone

or should say have a ...

I don't think it's July 4 anywhere in the US yet.

(But I think either is correct.)

12 more hours

thats why the "should say"

For the US timezones now is daylight morning hours on July 3rd but it's a long holiday weekend across multiple days. Everyone is on holiday.

is there a way to ask my server what dimms it has, from the OS?

rtprio: dmidecode should work.

Not a built-in tool, though.

rtprio, try decode-dimms from sysutils/i2c-tools

or connect to IPMI/iLO/IMM

if dmidecode didn't help

3

Is install.cfg documented anywhere? Search results turn up a lot of forum posts from people asking questions, but I'm having a hard time finding documentation about install.cfg itself (including just searching freebsd.org for the string "install.cfg")

bahamat: github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/blob…bin/bsdconfig/share/script.subr#L95

Title: freebsd-src/usr.sbin/bsdconfig/share/script.subr at 3f21d3e0babacabb9a32e0e9a8ab290025d5577c · freebsd/freebsd-src · GitHub

meena: That's not exactly what I would call a "documented" feature.

same

I'm trying to find out agar resword even means

freebsd/freebsd-src 99bc932 11 years ago

Title: Add support for scripting (sysinstall style). · freebsd/freebsd-src@99bc932 · GitHub

Beladona, vishwin, bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=271085

Title: 271085 – multimedia/obs-studio conflict with neovim due to luajit dependency

Created 2 months ago.

VVD super. but seems not solved yet?

It was without patch. ;-)

I added patch - waiting maintainer.

If he agree I can commit the patch or he can commit it self.

VVD great ! so this will be solved?

Definitely!

But I can't say when...

:-D

awesom

VVD I recal the issue with postgres and kdenlive was gdal

as I see a lock on it in history of commands

but maybe I am wrong

Beladona, can you describe this conflict same as in PR about luajit?

Better create separate PR and post URL here.

its resolved now. don't have the issue now to replicate