hi, does anyone know if Google Coral USB Accelerator works in FreeBSD?

uskerine: what does pciconf -lv say when you plug it in

uskerine: coral.ai/docs/accelerator/get-started/#2-install-the-pycoral-library that?

Title: Get started with the USB Accelerator | Coral

I do not have any, I am thinking in buying one

uskerine: in that case may reconsider

Unfortuantely FreeBSD support for GPU/TPUs is simply not there

looks like there's source code for the driver, but it's not clear how hard it would be to port

uskerine: want to do some kernel driver hacking ?

I would love to, but it seems out of my league

uh well

uskerine: could of just asked chatgpt to do it then submit it as your own

uskerine: come on man

i can't imagine how disastrous a chatgpt driver would end up

But it's look plausible.

It'd*. Like my typing, sometimes.

heh

had a local guy that was trying to do a custom mouse build; he was following along with an open source setup using arduino libs flashed to banana pi leaf s3, but he wanted to customize it with a different (higher resolution?) sensor

he asked chatgpt to write the arduino sketch he'd need to flash to work with the new sensor, and the result was... quite hilarious

it was absolutely confused, decided it would talk to the Banana Pi from an actual Arduino device and write serial out data from the other side and it just... didn't fit together in all the wrong ways

That's kind of wild.

yeah... i attempted to redirect him to a better way to port the existing sketch to his new sensor with some good ol' fashion pick 'n' pull (no time myself to try and get involved), hopefully that works out a little better

yikes

This article about the trainers of AI is really illuminating - there's a bit where they talk a little about how the model is "trained" for python and it's all so much less high-tech than everyone seems to assume: theverge.com/features/23764584/ai-a…ale-surge-remotasks-openai-chatbots

Title: Inside the AI Factory: the humans that make tech seem human - The Verge

ah, the mechanical Turk strikes again :-)

this person did at least get bonus points for trying, and they had a healthy skepticism going into it but hoped it wasn't as bad as it ended up being

and to chatgpt's credit, it did at least advise on proper SPI hookup in the same answer

Hi all,

I couldn´t see any post about it on any of the mailing lists, so I thought it could be that you´re not aware of it: This past Monday, the 26th, Hans Petter Selasky, whom I believe many of you know, died in a car accident.

There will be a sermon in Norkirken in Grimstad, Norway this Saturday.

:(

I am sorry to hear. Since some months earlier I had started to notice Hans' name. :-(

(paywalled articles in the local news (in Norwegian): gat.no/nyheter/i/jlx7oe/bil-kjoert-…v-veien-og-ut-i-vannet-ved-kaldvell agderposten.no/nyheter/i/4olA8o/han…s-petter-41-doede-i-utforkjoeringen )

Title: Omkom i ulykken: - Var en av støttepilarene - gat.no

magnus_reftel: thank you for sharing these sad news

Hello

I get this tar (child): Cannot connect to mtp: resolve failed

Phone set to the proper mode ?

How to make webcam be accessed by multiple programs? it seems it cannot be for now?

at the same time I mean

Don't think you can do that but that's more of a driver issue rather the program

you'd need some userspace program to multiplex v4l2 api calls, which i don't think exists (at least not for freebsd)

Think of moused vs direct x mouse usage , using moused you can have the mouse on console and x using the device directly in x you have no mouse on console as x is using it or locked to it

You would need someone similar for webcam

You could kind of get that with a multiplexer box kind of like the old days when you had a box for a printer and you would change a dial for the computer , they sell those but not sure if it will do what you need as it's still communicating in a 1 to 1

cpet debdrup I see so I cannot record with obs while having a google/zoom meeting

Corrwct

Correct

that is not the case with linux. right?

BSD and Linux are two different things work differently have way more support and funding so

ok

Anyone uses borg for backups? Speaking about personal workstation, not enterprise level solution.

I probably should have asked that question on #freebsd-desktop, haven't I?

Yes please use the correct hashtag channel

cdrmack: meena will get upset

cdrmack: can we have some more info though ?

Apologies, I moved my question to the -desktop channel.

cdrmack: no need to actually listen to cpet

incomplete list of channels, official and unofficial wiki.freebsd.org/IRC/Channels

Title: IRC/Channels - FreeBSD Wiki

cdrmack: nonned to actually listen to meena

cdrmack: just post errors and wait

:P

cdrmack: it's stupid so I always make it known but yeah post some errors

I do not have any errors. I'm new and looking for opinions about backup software for personal use. I did some research on my own and that's how I found borg.

cpet: come join me in #freebsd-bugs to see why it might be useful to compartmentalise certain topics

cdrmack: what's your use-case / requirements?

meena: yeah no

cdrmack: there's a few in ports backupme is what I used

I guess I want to backup my personal stuff on daily basis and probably some FreeBSD (kernel? full-system?) stuff before any upgrades

cpet: in that case, please, for love piss, and all that is golden, shut the fuck up about it.

Backupme should be fine then

meena: so you love piss and like golden things ok

cdrmack: zfs snapshots ? If you have some extra hw truenas is awesome for that

cpet: I have Synology DiskStation, still reading about ZFS but I have realized it makes snapshots before each upgrade already. Need to go through the docs to understand how these snapshots work.

thanks

zfs makes a snapshot and saves it to .snaps then you would use zfs to either restore them

Synology think has a network option to mount the share so you can backup was you need there better option if you have one of those

I used to use backupme with a mix of MySQLbackup

But now I just don't care after I got out to worry about anything so bleh

cdrmack: however remember of the disk dies you lose all the snaps

Need to do more reading but thanks for sharing. I do not have too much data so probably any solution will do.

Will read more about ZFS snapshots.

Yeap

cdrmack: which model do you have ?

cpet: DS218j

Is that a 5 bay one ?

bay = disk slot? If yes then nah, there are 2.

2 bay

cdrmack: bay, slot same shit

cdrmack: should invest in one of those , I have a Lenovo small tower that has a mirror zfs that I updated to current and dealing with openssl cluster fucks but managed to fix most except for openldap having a Synology would of prevented downtime

noice

I have it but do not have automated backups in place.

so you still win, I guess :P

Configs are in a fossil repo

Back up those is pretty much all I backup

bt

oops irc doesn't yet show backtraces

Nope

paulf: dtrace is fun

cdrmack: a simple script that tars up etc and does a pkg list dump and home then copies it over to the Synology is all you really need doesn't have to be some overly complicated crap with a GUI and python

was just a window focus error, as usual, had a gdb session on the 2nd monitor

cpet's awful signal to noise ratio combined with inability to either stfu or get a clue makes this channel not worth reading. bye.

cpet: I will probably do the same, maybe also include current kernel just in case.

And we upset koston bye koston

cdrmack: not worth the noise to go edge though

cpet, *plonk*

V_PauAmma_V: github.com/dmentipl/plonk

Title: GitHub - dmentipl/plonk: Smoothed particle hydrodynamics analysis and visualization with Python.

cpet: you are probably right

cdrmack: it happens every now and then

•/nick magnus_reftel

Fail

is the quarterly pkg branch on a strict release timeline, or is it "roughly quarterly"?

Title: Ports/QuarterlyBranch - FreeBSD Wiki

thanks, that's the doc i was looking for

Strict release, as far as I can tell. Next branch is due on July 1.

Freaky: freshbsd.org/freebsd/src/commit/a18…56b73cee784e5c422d20fd0e4dabebd7eee any chance to fix mention of multiple PRs?

Title: FreeBSD / src / a18b956 / libexecinfo: Enable backtrace_test.backtrace_fmt_basic on amd64 again - FreshBSD

Freaky: we probably have a few styles

Commit logs shouldnt really be that long , I did this change and that change k thanks bye

meena: it's actually not as complicated as you might think

You can setup git to have pre hooks that gives you a template when you commit , or setup formating and all that

meena: obviously this isn't exactly what's used anymore, but it should still roughly match: svnweb.freebsd.org/base/svnadmin/ho…y_bz.sh?revision=331884&view=markup

Title: [base] Contents of /svnadmin/hooks/scripts/notify_bz.sh

Or you can mess up and have a hat put on aka pointy hat to x

iirc there must be spaces, comma is optional

kevans, Got "installworld" completed for -CURRENT without issues; this time I ran "adjkerntz -i" (in single user mode) that I had not done earlier; will update the mail thread later. Thanks again for the pointers

If you look at the base dir and look at the . You can see the hooks and all that is done when you commit or do other things

not all of the hooks are published at the moment

only the client-side hooks

Never cared much to be a committer as I did it for fun and the praise on a commit logs was enough so never really cared about the internal bits but if do some magic I did have over 900 PRs which was enough for such

bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54297 think this was my first one spending all that time to be told it's already there , cause I forgot to look but this was back then when we used gnats and it didn't do search while your to so it was easier to duplicate things. Fun times

Title: 54297 – New port fceultra

How do I get rid of xorg log too much frequency (EE) Wacom ^COne by Wacom M Pen eraser: Error reading wacom device : Invalid argument

its eating my dish

Edit startx and add in

cpet add what?

-logfile /dev/null

Or

the error shows in the middle of somewhere in the day. not related to start x i think

ok so there will be no logs

-logverbose 0

actually I can route the logs to /tmp.   /tmp is on my ram

how can I do that?

Do what ?

route the /var/log to /tmp. /tmp is on my ram

Instead of dev null ad in path to tmp file

yes, but how

Told you edit startx

parv: ah, nice

parv: adjkerntz without having to rebuild?

don' t you think I should mount /var/log  to /tmp/var/log in  /etc/fstab?

cpet ^

No the fact that x bitches so much about Wacom means there's an insurance with the drivers

If you don't need the logs just nuke them

or maybe just for /var/log/Xorg.0.log

ok but I would need other logs

like dmseg etc

kevans, What do you mean? I started the sequence by cleaning out everything (just to be really sure sure) & then making buildworld in multi-user mode; boot in single user; ran adjkerntz; then making installworld

-logfile is a xorg arg to change the log file name

ahh

Ntpdate is probably a better bet

cpet wher is that `startx` script?

kevans, I had tried to correct the time via "date" but that did not seem to have done the trick previously. Oh well, adjkerntz works to be certain

which startx

If you use those dumb xdm things you need to edit that config

it's in xinit package, if that's what you are asking

cpet found it

Beladona: however note I don't log anything until I need to

where to add that? anywhere?

Should see a line that start with Xorg yada yada with a few - such as -notcp add it towards the end

This won't work if you use something like sddm

cpet imgur.com/fHt4hU1.png

I have to restart x. How can i enforce the log file path change right now?

Restart x

Imgur is blocked on my end using a personal squid

So God speed to your edit

any wy without restarting?

Nope

Think a -HUP will still kill the x session

However won't really fix your issue though as a tmpfs still has a limit null does not

May get away with using nullfs for car/log2 and changing it to that

ok

Or figure out why the Wacom spams start hacking the driver and remove that bit think you can also make syslogd not log the same thing over and over

cpet i don't think `-logfile` is correct syntax for startx file

it is correct for `Xorg -logfile /path` though

but Fatal server error: (EE) Server is already active for display 0  If this server is no longer running, remove /tmp/.X0-lock and start again.

Error is self explained

ya

I'm sure you'll figure it out

I am not. mayb :)

One of the nice thing about nix is the ability to modify things to suite you even if they are non std or frowned upon

ya..

Firs thing I do when install freebsd is change periodoc.conf and change all instances of root to /var/log/periodic.conf then I sysrc sendmail_enable="off" then I edit newsyslog and change all log files to have a .log then I do the same for syslogd.conf then I edit the crontab to move backups to /var/backups some may think this is wrong but I don't care I still do it

hm

cpet ln -s /dev/null /var/log/Xorg.0.log warning: An error occurred while redirecting file '/dev/null'  open: Operation not supported

Yeah that's a no go

am. why

That's a dataset you may get away with symlinking the actual xorg log file

why it works in linux pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/fFMqySTPns

Title: Ubuntu Pastebin

So ln -s /dev/null /car/log/Xorg .0.log

make sure that reads var I'm on my phone and autocorrect is stupid

did you wrote car instead of var

I don't do pastebins so yeah

oh ok

cpet ln -s /dev/null /var/log/Xorg.0.log warning: An error occurred while redirecting file '/dev/null'  open: Operation not supported

what is the display manager in freebsd?

Which ever you chose when you install

Guess you can't symlink a file to a device

depending on the wm we have gdn xdm sddm

Ok bye

Backwards as well

meena: been on the TODO since forever

%r{\b((?:#{cats})/(\d+))}, %r{\b((?:PR)[:/#]?\s*)((?:#{cats})/)?(\d+)\b}

Ugly but works

the bright side is that it still gets the first one rather than breaking because the whole line doesn't match expectations

Neither do life experiences

oops

it mentions cats, so it must be good

had to kill -9 the webserver because I wedged it

band-aided it and neglected to update it after FreeBSD migrated to git

Yeap whole world nigratea to git let's do it too instill have issues doing the equivalent in svn svn diff -N

git <3, svn </3

git is alright once you learn to accept the horrible UX

i will die on the hill that git has a horrible UX, though

I guess we can finally agree on one thing

i am very afraid of using svn because you can't mistakes when committing, with git i can at least still edit that ugly piece of text that are my commit messages (and add all the files i missed initially, and fix every other thing i tend to forget)

I don't like git , I actually export git to svn to work on it or import it to a fossil repo that shit just looks beautiful

grr overmind

Svn commit -m "edit file"

yuripv: that typo amused me way too much, I'm so dumb :D

kill -9 on one service should not terminate everything else in the Procfile

debdrup: shall I respond to that ?

cpet: If you can't act civilized, you should probably leave.

Freaky: you want HUP

I gave an option so I am

I want a regex engine that doesn't go quadratic if you look at it funny

and responds to SIGTERM, apparently

Freaky: that pretty much excludes all regex engines.

Turn your head the other way

And it's quadratic in the best case scenario, so far as I'm aware.

O(log²!) is probably more likely.

no, good ones are linear, they just happen to not be the ones you find in most scripting languages

Such as ?

freshbsd.org/freebsd/ports/commit/9…dddb1daaf7d393dd2782e5c818456ef9750 there, can render that classic again

Title: FreeBSD / ports / 91473dd / Update to r47441 of the FreeBSD Documentation Set, - FreshBSD

Freaky: you have gained the rank of "the freshbsd dewd"

I assume it was the result of vim misuse

i was going to ask what '["203274" repeated 18,535 times]' means, then i did git log; didn't know about that one

that's what you get for using svn

cpet: Rust's regex crate doesn't do this, don't think Go's does either

I like rust I don't like go cause it's Google related

Freaky: i still make sys admin programs in m3 cause no one even know wtf that is

Freaky: I got into that after I used cvsup for so long

Always liked the cde like iFace

oh yeah, it was written in Modula-3

I remember it being replaced with csup because it was C and so less annoying

debdrup: aren't you a committer ?

Freaky find it funny when I make a small program that does this and someone else goes what the hell is this made in

otis: i think you are missing at least the panic message itself in that nvme panic report

ah, yuri left before i caould write that i don't have any. i've left a tip session to that vm to capture the eventual output.