Salut

Comment je définis mon code pin dans une session ppp ?

hi

How can I specifying my pin code on lte 4G card ?

Oh 3h33 all sleeping

rwp: output from geom -t is OK, but is far from the at-a-glance overview that I sometimes/often want.

To my eyes it is more useful than the ports version of lsblk. The Linux version of lsblk -f though is better.

uh.. FreeBSD doesn't *have* block devices

hasn't had since the 90s

My status on that project is that I need two more disks to arrive before I can try assembling all on the replacement disks. Delivery slipped a day too. Maybe Wednesday delivery now. (shrug)

hjf: IIRC vboxdrv.ko built on 13.1 _did_ load on 13.2-RELEASE. I see that it does not load on 13.2-RELEASE-p1.

Anyone good with zfs? I'm currently in #zfs, but it's pretty quiet in there

BraveheartBSD: try 'ZFS' and 'Advanced ZFS' books from the FreeBSD Mastery series

BraveheartBSD, If you have a question it is best just to ask it and if someone knows something they will respond.

I'm getting an All Block Copies Unavailable: unable to read MOS on zroot pool. The system then boots normally.

Freebsd is installed on a 250gb ssd, with a seperate 20tb data pool

BraveheartBSD: do you have any idea what changes have been made between last boot without the problem and first boot with it?

No. The server was running Ubuntu server, which failed. New install on the same ssd, data pool imported with no issues. zpool status shows no errors on boot drive or data pool.

can you elaborate on the ubuntu failure?

specifically, could there be a lurking hardware failure

Ubuntu updated, I then had a txg_sync error which resulted in zpool being stalled.

have you tried pursuing the problem as a hardware failure?

Hey folks, sorry if this is a stupid question, I'm looking for confirmation to this assumption I have. I decided to ride on the 14-CURRENT wave and I was wondering by the time the devs create the stable/14 branch, can I then switch to that branch and roll from there without issues?

The server is old, it a Dell T610. The controller card is a Perc H700 which is not a happy thing to use with ZFS, I'm waiting delivery on a new HBA card.

kenrap: STABLE is the development branch based on RELEASE, not CURRENT. so, no, that's not going to work.

BraveheartBSD: is this one of the cards that don't have raw device passthrough and you're forced to use hardware RAID on top?

Koston: yes. It's why I've sourced a new HBA that does IT mode

I suggest not spending any more time on it before you can present ZFS with physical devices. FWIW, you might check fohdeesha.com/docs/perc.html if your adapter firmware can be "downgraded" to plain LSI (which it probably is)

Title: Introduction - Fohdeesha Docs

I recently did this for two PERC H710P Minis and at least FreeBSD on ZFS installed fine

H700 can't be flashed, unfortunately. It truly is a dinosaur

then just wait for the new HBA, you'll have to reinstall everything from scratch anyway

Yup. FreeBSD handles this card/drive array better than Ubuntu, but it's still the weak point with ZFS.

it's the weak point with your hardware, not ZFS

one of the major benefits of ZFS is precisely not being married to a particular brand and model hardware to access your data

Exactly

It's an old server i'm using as a samba share with Windows 11, still learning.

if you want to learn a lot about ZFS, I'd reiterate my earlier book recommendation. learning Samba is a lot bigger hurdle, imho

Freedom!!!

huh, the new rewritten mixer(8) utility in CURRENT made manually switching to my uaudio device actually work when using the `-d` switch, very neat. Fighting with sysctl (and with pulseaudio because KDE) was not a fun experience.

Something's wrong when #freebsd-irc is more active than this one.

Maybe requiring nick registration to be in here should be reconsidered.

TIL that newer versions of Gnu man(1) support a "feature" that lets you use "man crontab.5" in place of the original "man 5 crontab" syntax for specifing manpage sections.

i think you could attribute that to the unknowledge search engine users thinking that irc and freebsd are one.

Nah, it's more that nobody's telling people to move to #FreeBSD.

there is always many factors

So let's make someone register for a nick to join a channel to ask why x11 fails to load up

Genius !!

its usally the first thing that someone finds that they go for.

freebsd-irc should most likely be forwarded here. but freebsd.org historically has not supported irc as a medium

The only officially supported communication medium we have is mailing lists, and there's several good reasons for that.

think it may be the opposite now with the knowledge that its not officially supported as a support channel

Soemtimes you want/need something closer to realtime support.

Some of them are properties that IRC share, but others are basically only found on mail.

Or, sometimes you just wanna hang out with people interested in the same thing.

CrtxReavr: For support, sure.

send me mail about freebsd im not supporting it... now email is a diff story

my mail box is officially solicited

and goes into recycleable bags

I'm not saying IRC isn't good (I've been on it since 1992, so that'd be a tiny bit weird if I did..), just that mailing lists and email are the only project-supported communication forms for reasons.

s/are/is/

96 myself

It's 2023 ML had there place stopped using them years ago the only one I still actively use is the OpenBsd mai ly because watching theo curse someone off is hilarious

Hello, A short story. I had an issue with manageable switch at my work, which routes couple vlans.

CmdLnKid: milter/sieve and multiple mailboxes/addresses with a catch-all are the way to go.

Discord seems to be taking over the role of IRC.

lol

Discord has a nice web client

CrtxReavr: doubtful, in the long run. I can't count the number of realtime communication systems that've come and gone, and IRC is still here.

not talking about email with that. physical "mail"

cpet: disagree hard.

lets not get distracted

Discord is evil

CmdLnKid: ah, right. Snailmail isn't really a thing in my world.

debdrup, the internet will never catch on. It's a fad!

Uh well

I'm neutral torwards discord, but I don't expect it to be The Next Best thing that some people seem to be predicting.

we shouldn't ever consider "email" ... mail

KISS - Keep It Simple, Stupid

postal services deserve as much respect as email

debdrup, have you used Discord? Seen all the features it supports? All the shit it does for free?

can you connect to discord with a cli client ?

It started out "serverless voice chat for gaming" and just exploded into so much more from there.

without the internet "mail will survive at minimal by horseback"

CrtxReavr: I'm on it right now (on about as many instances as I'm on different irc networks, so +30), and yes. And for free is precisely the problem; Discord will run out of VC funding eventually and either want to IPO or will start seriously going after its users to get them to pay (You think Nitro is bad now, just wait and see). Or they'll run out of VC money and cash out by selling to

Amazon/Microsoft/Alphabet.

so much offtop

aquamo4k: sort-of; it's unsupported and there's a non-zero chance it'll get your account banned.

good point debdrup , eventually they will want to reap benefit from all the userids and emails theyve collected.

the things are not that simple.

Nevermind the userIDs and emails, all the quite personal details they'll have from logs is worth a significant chunk of money to the right buyer.

debdrup, but they're monitizing it too. . . there's lots of addon & upgraded features that businesses, software publishers, etc. are taking huge advantage of.

All it takes is one scrupulous techbro who wants money more than he wants self-respect.

i use it for some gaming groups but only on my windows game pc. it's a huge window with lots of space and images all over the place ... it's a good app but not what I like to use for chatting

circuitbone: nitro ain't paying for the business of running the servers or getting enough bandwidth to host something at this scale.

we all already become cattles in comfortable stables

++

aquamo4k, I too preferr mumble/murmur, overwhelmingly, the gaming world doesn't care what I want for that.

Remember, Discord isn't eventually-consistent like Twitter is (that was one of their strengths in terms of scale-out vs load).

Even if they aren't paying for the bandwidth to do the actual peer-to-peer voice/video stuff, it's still a big chunk of cash to run the infrastructure for something like Discord.

And they won't benefit from elastic infrastructure so butt solutions are just going to be more expensive in the long run.

Anyway, my dinner's finished cooking, so I'll be back in a while.

I think they could with some slight re-focus in marketing, they could easily supplant, Slack, Zoom, WebEx, Et al.

dinner ... wtf timezone are you in

The gamers that grew-up with it enter the job market. . . and keep gaming.

CmdLnKid: Denmark.

k

makes sense now

:)

thnkxx

What, you think I was Usanian?

nah dude im in the us in WI

just need a reminder sometimes

not even ready for a beer yet

17:00 somewhere

It's kinda funny to me that Usanians can't do timezones outside of Usania, considering they're a Usanian invention.

can't even come to comprehend that most times as business takes most of the time

<- result of the us dumb market

Usania doesn't have a monopoly on dumb, though. The rest of the world is just as capable.

might have to move myself

e.g. out of the US

shits got really stupid

anyway though. back on to the freebsd subject line

Yeah, politics is probably best avoided.

nerozero: so what was und story with the switch?

Usania ?

meena there where so many offtop, that I thought my question will drown in the messages. Thanks for reply

So,I made a quick solution to route vilans

I have a 4ethernet board pc with BSD installed

vi for lans vilan

cpet, wait ...

typing

the quick solution was to connect tagged iface to one port and bridge vlan interface with specific ports

cpet: you can head on over to #freebsd-social for all off topic chatter. tho it is often quite quiet

everything is working, but my question, what could go wrong ?

How's the thru put? is it reboot safe?

yes. everything done in rc.conf

I mean, the security things ...

leaking packets ... etc .

this is a first time I did that

was thinking on the fly how to quickly address this issue

What exactly is the issue or doni need to go-to #freebad-issues ?

debdrup: yeah you tend to disagree a lot but think ML lost there tick

cpet, you may want to lay off the phsylobins

;-)

just giving you shit

Thank you

But please take this to #freebsd-social you may talk shit there

just trying to keep it interesting

gotacha. didn't ever hear about it before so thank man

Also take that to #freebsd-interesting and #freebsd-physylobins

lol

Don't forget #freebsd-lol

Let's make it like Twitter with hashtags

haha

do I need ECC and server grade hardware to run web server + postgres on freebsd or any pc would do?

no

that only suppliments your monnitoring

Beladona: depends on how critical the data is, re ECC

less than 1%

just good practice

the only times I've heard people lose data on ZFS was without ECC RAM

meena, unless you can predict the replacement cycle which could ultimately cost you your bottom line

but isn't what zfs already does and no need for ECC? zfs is pretty good about avoiding corruption because it manually checksums everything multiple times along the way. Like its using your CPU to do that, but its not a big deal

CmdLnKid: I'm not sure i understand that sentence

ECC is your bottom line. if youve ever seen your files been written in american all the way to japanese. you probably want ecc

CmdLnKid ok but isn't that zfs thing already?

intel only perspective but it can effect everything

pardon? intel what?

it goes further than that but my involvement is intel centric

when your ram goes bad or your cpu and your .bashrc looks like chinese ECC may be your problem

not neccesarily ecc but ram in general or your cpu

keep in mind ive noticed this only once on intel

never minded to look further than just replacing and restoring the data

CmdLnKid: can you please sort your thoughts out first, then sort the words in the sentences you write to make sense to more people people than just you

meena, thanks. ill take a further look at it

or deeper

Remember #freebsd-grammar

recusing myself

forgive the spelling

Beladona: ZFS checksumming protects data on the disk, but it can't do that in RAM

CmdLnKid: meena seems to think he she is special so it's ok

#freebsd-special

ECC does

gives you one bit

It should as it hogs it all

i woudln't call it that. meena seems to keep me in check and i respect that much like yourself.

anyway like i said earlier before i injected some bs freebsd centric stuff should reside here

screw reside i mean someyhing else

im out

Later

later guys

or girls

Nice save

just tryinng to keep up with the times without all the bullshit

Buts it's still all bullshit

Should change my email and add in the pronoun of BFM

But it may confuse with BDSM

Hopefully current doesn't fail to build

So when I get home it's just a reboot and a installworld

Hey, I’ve been trying to build Xfce again from poudriere after reinstalling FreeBSD (this time as the only OS as opposed to a dual boot) and when poudriere tries to build rust it fails leading to poudriere e to stop

I’ve read that it might be due to the tmpfs storage limit (I have it at 8gib), but what else could it be?

8gib seems a bit tight indeed

If you have no rams can't make tnpfs bigger

Xfce is small don't really need tmpfs

Or is that mpfs

I don't know shouldn't have to create a whole build system to build custom ports

Yeah, I have 16gb so I might as well disable tempfs then

And it’s not xfce which is unable to be built by poudriere but rust lol

Which xfce now pulls in as a build depeedency

There's an option to use pkg for deps

And builds the requested port

Saves ya the time for rust

I see

Personally I don’t mind the compile times, though, so that means I’m best off just disabling tempfs right

However you chose to do it I'm sure that doesn't require a response from here

Ccache is another

I see, that’s cool!

I feel like making all the dependencies be downloaded from pkg isn’t for me since I’d like to have a local copy of all the packages

I don’t remember there being any freebsd package servers in Peru and would like to host one once I am able to

I get a max speed of 6mbit

I see

I get pretty low download speeds compared to when I used Linux but whatever

Guess NYI wants it's bw back

I c

I personally plan to pretty much use freebsd on all my servers, especially my future home server plans so I might as well get a local pkg repository

Like most people do here so yeah

If you aren't customizing ports there's no point

meena I see. so ECC is a ram feature and is found in ram only?

Beladona: server boards

cpet so ECC is a feature of server board/main board. not ram or both  or ram only?

Read about it man

ok

Hey Siri ECC ram

That simple man

cpet: can you just tone down the condescension by like five percent?

Beladona: ECC RAM is a more or less standard feature of server Hardware. There are some AMD consumer motherboards that allow putting in ECC RAM, and apparently no Intel boards, because Intel wants to sell you every single feature for extra money

ya I have x570 asus tuf plus. It has ecc

meena: I'll get back to you on that

Probable a no though

One hour and 35 minutes since I started building stuff

Rust has failed building AGAIN holy shit

Especially grating since llvm12 just built

Nvm it was just llvm12, llvm13 failed to compile as well

ok guess no logs

rust builds fine here