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tpefreedom1
I've just installed freebsdHas anyone had luck acessing a google captive portal on freebsd?
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tpefreedom1
*oops
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tpefreedom1
Has anyone had luck accessing/signing in to a google captive portal?
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meena
yes
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Gud
I travel a lot and frequently have problems connecting to hotel WiFi. When I stay as a guest at B&B it is rarely a problem, it is always at hotel chains. I would be curious to if there is any way to trouble shoot this?
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Gud
Basically I get connected to the AP but don't receive an IP address with status: associated in ifconfig wlan0. Sometimes no carrier, but the correct SSID.
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debdrup
There's probably a captive portal that requires you to authenticate; I can't remember if that's supported.
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debdrup
On the other hand, that might not be relevant here if you're not getting an IP (and I should probably wake up more, before responding..)
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drobban
debdrup: yea you should get an IP.
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nimaje
don't those normaly let you connect normaly and just block you from doing most stuff except reaching the captive portal to accept their terms?
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drobban
Gud: try to check what "kind" of AP it is trying to connect to. Had problems at home with the googles meshed APs and once i connect to a mac-specific one I got my IP as I should
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debdrup
Hm, maybe. I also seem to recall that if there's a captive portal, Firefox will redirect you to it when you try to browse anywhere.
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drobban
Gud: what hotel chain are we talking about specificly?
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nimaje
yeah, afaik they do that redirect by giving their IP for all DNS querys
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drobban
debdrup: never had any "troubles" what that kind of setup.. It will only block my traffic to the internet, at least the ones I have been exposed to, at like Scandic that is a common hotel chain in Norden
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drobban
nimaje: yea, that is at least the kind I have been exposed to
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drobban
Gud: I would take a look at what kind ap's you get when you scan. Try selecting a specific one by supplying the mac-adress to the AP and see if you then are able to get an IP.
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Gud
drobban: In this case Van der Valk. But I've had the same problem with most of them to be frank. I have enabled some options in wlandebug
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Gud
thankfully I managed to get the USB tethering working. It also wasn't working too well with my wifi iphone hotspot for some reason, that's always my plan B
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drobban
humm. I assume you are using wpa_supplicant to set up the wlan
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Gud
yes
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drobban
do you supply a bssid?
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Gud
Yes, I've tried with bssid
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drobban
okey. and none of them work+
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drobban
?
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Gud
Not sure about the bssid format
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drobban
bssid=e4:5e:1b:95:5d:85
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Gud
I just copy paste the MAC address from ifconfig wlan0 scan
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drobban
ich
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Gud
no quotes?
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drobban
nope
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Gud
XD
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Gud
Okay I'll try
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drobban
that is what mine looks like at least
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Gud
But it looked like it was connecting to the ap with the strongest signal.. but I'll try anyway
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Gud
this was always annoying me but here even the 4G is pretty bad
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drobban
yea, do you notice any differences between them - if there are more then one with the same SSID?
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Gud
wifi hotspot*
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Gud
there are three of them
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Gud
with the same ssid
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drobban
yea, im not expert in wifi. My setup at home, I have three APS, and each report as two different types.
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drobban
all with the same ssid.
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Gud
I only have problems with hotel wifis... never anywhere else
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Gud
and not everytime
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drobban
and I had problems getting IP from one of the types, but selecting the other type I worked fine and dandy
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drobban
okey.
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drobban
let us know if you were able to get an IP after testing each of them
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drobban
every each *
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Gud
Mar 31 13:15:18 x1 wpa_supplicant[2888]: Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant
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Gud
Mar 31 13:15:18 x1 wpa_supplicant[2888]: ioctl[SIOCS80211, op=20, val=0, arg_len=7]: Invalid argument
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Gud
Mar 31 13:15:18 x1 syslogd: last message repeated 1 times
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Gud
from wlandebug
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Gud
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VimDiesel
Title: Mar 31 13:18:19 x1 wpa_supplicant[2889]: wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-DSCP-POLICY clear_all - Pastebin.com
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drobban
Gud: sorry, do not know what that means
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drobban
I take it, that testing each AP specificly didnt solve your issue
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debdrup
I'd suggest digging out tcpdump in order to figure out what's generating the invalid argument.
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yannd
meena: got around to resizing my disk and getting enough space to install llvm15 port, but then `clang` still points to the system one, and anyway `clang15` does not have `/usr/local/include` in its search path
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meena
yannd: that sounds very frustrating (and somewhat familiar)
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meena
I would lodge a complaint with #bsdports (on EFnet)
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yannd
k thx
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nimaje
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VimDiesel
Title: WarnerLosh/UsrLocal - FreeBSD Wiki
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yuripv
last edited 2015-10-28
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meena
I hope there's been some progress since then
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thorre
Is the fish shell considered stable/safe?
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thorre
For non-root use that is.
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debdrup
Can it be fitted aurally?
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thorre
Like a babelfish you mean?
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nimaje
afaik the only problem with changing roots shell is, that it should work if you somehow break your system and missing /usr/local/ is one thing what could happen
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thorre
nimaje: My question is for non-root usage. Root has the default shell, if you need fancy root shell use toor user :-)
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nimaje
could you explain what you mean by stable/safe in context of a shell? I don't really see what you mean with your question (as the only point I saw for root shell is external to the shell itself, how would that be diffrent for other users?)
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thorre
I am migrating from zsh to fish on my laptop, workstation etc.
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ek
thorre: I know many people that use fish as their default, non-root shell. No problems so far.
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thorre
ek thank you.
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Demosthenex
thorre: rule of thumb is never change root's shell on any unix to a shell not included in the base install. freebsd does csh and sh. the reason why is that all the testing is done only with those shells.
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Demosthenex
you don't want the root shell to have any foriegn dependencies
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Demosthenex
as to a user shell, anything goes. it can only impact that user.
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Demosthenex
so "stable" has little meaning
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thorre
Demosthenex: I agree. That is why my question is for non-root accounts.
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Demosthenex
i use zsh as my user, and i use csh as root's default shell. i DO often run zsh after logging in as root, and i'm aware if a command fails to exit zsh and retry it in csh
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thorre
Demosthenex: ok, I see your reasoning. Thank you
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» llua never had a problem changing the root user shell
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Demosthenex
llua: you can change it of course, but that's not the best practice. i already gave some reasons why
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thorre
I have two users with UID 0 on my system. Root that is vanilla, and toor who has a nice shell etc.
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llua
they wasn't really good ones
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yannd
13.2rc6 is not released yet, right ? worth waiting before downloading an ISO ?
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nimaje
acording to the schedule building of rc6 has begun, not sure when exactly and how long those builds need
freebsd.org/releases/13.2R/schedule
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VimDiesel
Title: FreeBSD 13.2 Release Process | The FreeBSD Project
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Midjak
Hello I haven't upgraded the kernel in a while. Do you have a recommendation about how often I should do this upgrade ?
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Midjak
I don't do anything critical on this computer so I guess it's ok. I update port tree regulary too
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Midjak
I need to reboot I will be back quickly.
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nimaje
use
freebsd.org/security/feed.xml base system and kernel updates are only erratas and security advisories
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VimDiesel
Title: FreeBSD Security Advisories and Errata noticesFreeBSD Security Advisories and Errata noticesFreeBSD-EN-23:04.ixgbeFreeBSD-EN-23:03.enaFreeBSD-EN-23:02.sdhciFreeBSD-EN-23:01.tzdataFreeBSD-EN-22:28.heimdalFreeBSD-EN-22:27.loaderFreeBSD-EN-22:26.camFreeBSD-EN-22:25.tcpFreeBSD-EN-22:24.zfsFreeBSD-EN-22:23.vmFreeBSD-SA-23:03.opensslFreeBSD-SA-23:02.opensshFreeBSD-SA-23:01.geliFreeBSD-SA-22:15.pingFreeBSD- (1 more message)
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Midjak
what is this nimaje ?
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Midjak
ah ok I see (I have followed the links)
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Midjak
But they don't talk about 14.0 just 12 and 13. Is there a tool to search into maybe ?
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nimaje
a rss feed (well, atom I guess in that case), give it to some feed reader and it will inform you when there are new entries
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parv
For -CURRENT, that is 14 currently, system subscribe to the mailing list,
lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current
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Midjak
oh yes indeed
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VimDiesel
Title: freebsd-current⊙Fo
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Midjak
ah cool
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Midjak
thank you
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Midjak
I think I will check that regulary from the browser. Maybe subscribe to this mailing list
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parv
.oO( Wonder if there is some 15 branch already ... )
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nimaje
did you read
docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/cutting-edge/#current ? you should subscribe to that mailing list if you are following -current
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Midjak
I am checking that
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VimDiesel
Title: Chapter 25. Updating and Upgrading FreeBSD | FreeBSD Documentation Portal
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Midjak
apparently not carefully enough nimaje
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Midjak
thanks
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Midjak
I thought I could just check `git log` from my local copy
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Midjak
the last time I signed up for a mailing list I was getting a lot of spam
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Midjak
it was a long time ago
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Midjak
I don't think I can contribute much as a contributor so maybe just following the emails from the browser is enough
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Midjak
Well I am going to think about this. Thank you
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nimaje
but why do you follow -current? it is a development branch
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» meena update that chapter to add PkgBase
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Midjak
why not ?
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Midjak
I made a mistake at the beginning, but so far it's gone pretty well
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Midjak
I could come back to stable If I run onto problem
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Midjak
as i said there are no critical things on this device. I can break it, no problem.
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Midjak
I am using it for coding and learn freebsd
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Midjak
I'm not sure that the downgrade will go smoothly
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CrtxReavr
If for $reasons I need to have ipfw loaded, I can set firewall_type="open" in rc.conf
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CrtxReavr
What similar can I set for IPv6?
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nimaje
I'm pretty sure that is for ipv6 and v4, what are you missing?
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CrtxReavr
v6 can't pickup a SLAAC address.
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spmzt
Hi, Does anyone know how to setup l2tpv3 on freebsd?
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yuripv
i only know of net/mpd5 (that i used ages ago for l2tp), not sure if it does "v3"
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spmzt
I can't find anything on its manual
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mns
FreeBSD went through a CVS to Git migration. Is there some place where the process was documented ? I am going to be going through something similar at work, but would be interested in learning about the processes and methods used to do the conversion.
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yuripv
mns:
wiki.freebsd.org/Git has some info on it
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VimDiesel
Title: Git - FreeBSD Wiki
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yuripv
though it was cvs -> svn and later svn -> git
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meena
but some people are trying to import csrg into Git, however, it's turning out very difficult, because RCS did not deal well with renames
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yuripv
git does not know about renames at all :)
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meena
well, yeah, but it's got some heuristics where it can reasonably deduce it
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mns
ahh so it was done as CVS -> SVN - Git. For some reason I thought it was direct CVS-Git.
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yuripv
svn one was long time ago, pre-2010
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meena
mns: nah, but OpenBSD is probably going CVS -> GoT (which uses git's backend and protocol)
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meena
yuripv: I was an ASF committer at the time sve totally hyped for it
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mns
What is GoT ?
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meena
a/sve/and/
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meena
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VimDiesel
Title: Game of Trees
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meena
it's a frontend, the kind of frontend that OpenBSD developers want / need, built on top of the Git protocol / data store
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meena
imagine someone building a new frontend for their favourite language on top of LLVM or GCC
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mns
The funny thing is that the site is blocked at work because it falls into the "Games" category. Time to send another report for an incorrect block.
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meena
🤦🏻♀️
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meena
conwaylife.com what about this one? :P
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VimDiesel
Title: Conway's Game of Life
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mns
yeah even that one
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nimaje
well, conways game of life is at least a zero player game
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mason
Nullitaire?
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meena
mason: sounds like my kind of game
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meena
(for those who don't know: i suck at games. and only recently now that games have "Story mode" i can play them thru)
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la_mettrie
already in 1986 there was a game called Portal published by Activision which was rather an interactive scifi book than a game
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meena
when i was 2, i knew nothing about computers… I dunno when i learned about them… probably some time around ten? I think it took way too long to grasp that computer games and computers are related
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mason
I think I understand right off that computers *were* games, and really fun ones. :)
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mason
understood*
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» meena 's favourite MMORPG is FLOSS
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bsdbandit
this is weird so im running freebsd as a host with virtualbox once i started to configured my vm to used my bridge interface my network connection started acting wierd once i did a service netif restart my machine reboots
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bsdbandit
anyone else ran into this issue
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bsdbandit
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bsdbandit
?
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meena
bsdbandit: can you refine "started acting"?
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nimaje
pretty sure no service … should result in a reboot
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meena
oh, i… just that bit
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meena
maybe it's time to… boot a CURRENT kernel with all the debugging enabled
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meena
and/or sleep