01:12:33 I've just installed freebsdHas anyone had luck acessing a google captive portal on freebsd? 01:12:40 *oops 01:13:12 Has anyone had luck accessing/signing in to a google captive portal? 06:41:23 yes 11:26:43 I travel a lot and frequently have problems connecting to hotel WiFi. When I stay as a guest at B&B it is rarely a problem, it is always at hotel chains. I would be curious to if there is any way to trouble shoot this? 11:31:38 Basically I get connected to the AP but don't receive an IP address with status: associated in ifconfig wlan0. Sometimes no carrier, but the correct SSID. 11:55:06 There's probably a captive portal that requires you to authenticate; I can't remember if that's supported. 11:56:42 On the other hand, that might not be relevant here if you're not getting an IP (and I should probably wake up more, before responding..) 11:57:48 debdrup: yea you should get an IP. 11:58:20 don't those normaly let you connect normaly and just block you from doing most stuff except reaching the captive portal to accept their terms? 11:59:00 Gud: try to check what "kind" of AP it is trying to connect to. Had problems at home with the googles meshed APs and once i connect to a mac-specific one I got my IP as I should 11:59:17 Hm, maybe. I also seem to recall that if there's a captive portal, Firefox will redirect you to it when you try to browse anywhere. 11:59:27 Gud: what hotel chain are we talking about specificly? 12:01:04 yeah, afaik they do that redirect by giving their IP for all DNS querys 12:01:07 debdrup: never had any "troubles" what that kind of setup.. It will only block my traffic to the internet, at least the ones I have been exposed to, at like Scandic that is a common hotel chain in Norden 12:01:42 nimaje: yea, that is at least the kind I have been exposed to 12:02:59 Gud: I would take a look at what kind ap's you get when you scan. Try selecting a specific one by supplying the mac-adress to the AP and see if you then are able to get an IP. 12:05:39 drobban: In this case Van der Valk. But I've had the same problem with most of them to be frank. I have enabled some options in wlandebug 12:06:45 thankfully I managed to get the USB tethering working. It also wasn't working too well with my wifi iphone hotspot for some reason, that's always my plan B 12:07:01 humm. I assume you are using wpa_supplicant to set up the wlan 12:07:04 yes 12:07:25 do you supply a bssid? 12:07:36 Yes, I've tried with bssid 12:07:44 okey. and none of them work+ 12:07:46 ? 12:07:48 Not sure about the bssid format 12:08:00 bssid=e4:5e:1b:95:5d:85 12:08:02 I just copy paste the MAC address from ifconfig wlan0 scan 12:08:04 ich 12:08:05 no quotes? 12:08:10 nope 12:08:13 XD 12:08:19 Okay I'll try 12:08:22 that is what mine looks like at least 12:08:45 But it looked like it was connecting to the ap with the strongest signal.. but I'll try anyway 12:09:04 this was always annoying me but here even the 4G is pretty bad 12:09:25 yea, do you notice any differences between them - if there are more then one with the same SSID? 12:09:31 wifi hotspot* 12:09:40 there are three of them 12:09:43 with the same ssid 12:10:44 yea, im not expert in wifi. My setup at home, I have three APS, and each report as two different types. 12:10:55 all with the same ssid. 12:11:08 I only have problems with hotel wifis... never anywhere else 12:11:22 and not everytime 12:11:26 and I had problems getting IP from one of the types, but selecting the other type I worked fine and dandy 12:12:06 okey. 12:13:30 let us know if you were able to get an IP after testing each of them 12:13:46 every each * 12:17:21 Mar 31 13:15:18 x1 wpa_supplicant[2888]: Successfully initialized wpa_supplicant 12:17:24 Mar 31 13:15:18 x1 wpa_supplicant[2888]: ioctl[SIOCS80211, op=20, val=0, arg_len=7]: Invalid argument 12:17:27 Mar 31 13:15:18 x1 syslogd: last message repeated 1 times 12:17:54 from wlandebug 12:19:42 https://pastebin.com/8HJ5JRJm 12:19:43 Title: Mar 31 13:18:19 x1 wpa_supplicant[2889]: wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-DSCP-POLICY clear_all - Pastebin.com 14:31:20 Gud: sorry, do not know what that means 14:31:52 I take it, that testing each AP specificly didnt solve your issue 14:44:11 I'd suggest digging out tcpdump in order to figure out what's generating the invalid argument. 14:56:49 meena: got around to resizing my disk and getting enough space to install llvm15 port, but then `clang` still points to the system one, and anyway `clang15` does not have `/usr/local/include` in its search path 15:00:05 yannd: that sounds very frustrating (and somewhat familiar) 15:00:47 I would lodge a complaint with #bsdports (on EFnet) 15:04:49 k thx 15:12:04 a while ago someone linked https://wiki.freebsd.org/WarnerLosh/UsrLocal 15:12:05 Title: WarnerLosh/UsrLocal - FreeBSD Wiki 15:25:56 last edited 2015-10-28 15:36:36 I hope there's been some progress since then 15:37:45 Is the fish shell considered stable/safe? 15:39:17 For non-root use that is. 15:40:21 Can it be fitted aurally? 15:41:58 Like a babelfish you mean? 15:42:01 afaik the only problem with changing roots shell is, that it should work if you somehow break your system and missing /usr/local/ is one thing what could happen 15:42:38 nimaje: My question is for non-root usage. Root has the default shell, if you need fancy root shell use toor user :-) 15:49:45 could you explain what you mean by stable/safe in context of a shell? I don't really see what you mean with your question (as the only point I saw for root shell is external to the shell itself, how would that be diffrent for other users?) 15:53:35 I am migrating from zsh to fish on my laptop, workstation etc. 15:54:03 thorre: I know many people that use fish as their default, non-root shell. No problems so far. 15:54:23 ek thank you. 16:03:29 thorre: rule of thumb is never change root's shell on any unix to a shell not included in the base install. freebsd does csh and sh. the reason why is that all the testing is done only with those shells. 16:03:47 you don't want the root shell to have any foriegn dependencies 16:03:55 as to a user shell, anything goes. it can only impact that user. 16:04:03 so "stable" has little meaning 16:04:05 Demosthenex: I agree. That is why my question is for non-root accounts. 16:04:34 i use zsh as my user, and i use csh as root's default shell. i DO often run zsh after logging in as root, and i'm aware if a command fails to exit zsh and retry it in csh 16:04:35 Demosthenex: ok, I see your reasoning. Thank you 16:06:39 * llua never had a problem changing the root user shell 16:07:14 llua: you can change it of course, but that's not the best practice. i already gave some reasons why 16:07:21 I have two users with UID 0 on my system. Root that is vanilla, and toor who has a nice shell etc. 16:08:15 they wasn't really good ones 16:30:25 13.2rc6 is not released yet, right ? worth waiting before downloading an ISO ? 16:57:37 acording to the schedule building of rc6 has begun, not sure when exactly and how long those builds need https://www.freebsd.org/releases/13.2R/schedule/ 16:57:38 Title: FreeBSD 13.2 Release Process | The FreeBSD Project 17:35:40 Hello I haven't upgraded the kernel in a while. Do you have a recommendation about how often I should do this upgrade ? 17:38:52 I don't do anything critical on this computer so I guess it's ok. I update port tree regulary too 17:39:59 I need to reboot I will be back quickly. 18:01:49 use https://www.freebsd.org/security/feed.xml base system and kernel updates are only erratas and security advisories 18:01:51 Title: FreeBSD Security Advisories and Errata noticesFreeBSD Security Advisories and Errata noticesFreeBSD-EN-23:04.ixgbeFreeBSD-EN-23:03.enaFreeBSD-EN-23:02.sdhciFreeBSD-EN-23:01.tzdataFreeBSD-EN-22:28.heimdalFreeBSD-EN-22:27.loaderFreeBSD-EN-22:26.camFreeBSD-EN-22:25.tcpFreeBSD-EN-22:24.zfsFreeBSD-EN-22:23.vmFreeBSD-SA-23:03.opensslFreeBSD-SA-23:02.opensshFreeBSD-SA-23:01.geliFreeBSD-SA-22:15.pingFreeBSD- (1 more message) 18:03:10 what is this nimaje ? 18:04:50 ah ok I see (I have followed the links) 18:06:26 But they don't talk about 14.0 just 12 and 13. Is there a tool to search into maybe ? 18:07:20 a rss feed (well, atom I guess in that case), give it to some feed reader and it will inform you when there are new entries 18:07:37 For -CURRENT, that is 14 currently, system subscribe to the mailing list, https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-current/ 18:07:37 oh yes indeed 18:07:37 Title: freebsd-current⊙Fo 18:07:49 ah cool 18:07:53 thank you 18:09:29 I think I will check that regulary from the browser. Maybe subscribe to this mailing list 18:11:04 .oO( Wonder if there is some 15 branch already ... ) 18:11:55 did you read https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/cutting-edge/#current ? you should subscribe to that mailing list if you are following -current 18:11:56 I am checking that 18:11:56 Title: Chapter 25. Updating and Upgrading FreeBSD | FreeBSD Documentation Portal 18:13:00 apparently not carefully enough nimaje 18:13:03 thanks 18:14:04 I thought I could just check `git log` from my local copy 18:15:46 the last time I signed up for a mailing list I was getting a lot of spam 18:16:10 it was a long time ago 18:17:33 I don't think I can contribute much as a contributor so maybe just following the emails from the browser is enough 18:17:50 Well I am going to think about this. Thank you 18:25:32 but why do you follow -current? it is a development branch 18:28:12 * meena update that chapter to add PkgBase 18:29:13 why not ? 18:30:17 I made a mistake at the beginning, but so far it's gone pretty well 18:30:39 I could come back to stable If I run onto problem 18:32:44 as i said there are no critical things on this device. I can break it, no problem. 18:34:07 I am using it for coding and learn freebsd 18:46:14 I'm not sure that the downgrade will go smoothly 19:10:47 If for $reasons I need to have ipfw loaded, I can set firewall_type="open" in rc.conf 19:11:06 What similar can I set for IPv6? 19:12:40 I'm pretty sure that is for ipv6 and v4, what are you missing? 19:16:46 v6 can't pickup a SLAAC address. 19:21:39 Hi, Does anyone know how to setup l2tpv3 on freebsd? 19:28:58 i only know of net/mpd5 (that i used ages ago for l2tp), not sure if it does "v3" 19:32:14 I can't find anything on its manual 21:27:22 FreeBSD went through a CVS to Git migration. Is there some place where the process was documented ? I am going to be going through something similar at work, but would be interested in learning about the processes and methods used to do the conversion. 21:29:36 mns: https://wiki.freebsd.org/Git has some info on it 21:29:37 Title: Git - FreeBSD Wiki 21:30:01 though it was cvs -> svn and later svn -> git 21:33:22 but some people are trying to import csrg into Git, however, it's turning out very difficult, because RCS did not deal well with renames 21:33:45 git does not know about renames at all :) 21:34:26 well, yeah, but it's got some heuristics where it can reasonably deduce it 21:34:45 ahh so it was done as CVS -> SVN - Git. For some reason I thought it was direct CVS-Git. 21:35:13 svn one was long time ago, pre-2010 21:35:55 mns: nah, but OpenBSD is probably going CVS -> GoT (which uses git's backend and protocol) 21:36:29 yuripv: I was an ASF committer at the time sve totally hyped for it 21:36:44 What is GoT ? 21:36:49 a/sve/and/ 21:37:15 http://gameoftrees.org/ 21:37:16 Title: Game of Trees 21:38:47 it's a frontend, the kind of frontend that OpenBSD developers want / need, built on top of the Git protocol / data store 21:39:25 imagine someone building a new frontend for their favourite language on top of LLVM or GCC 21:40:38 The funny thing is that the site is blocked at work because it falls into the "Games" category. Time to send another report for an incorrect block. 21:40:59 🤦🏻‍♀️ 21:42:18 https://conwaylife.com/ what about this one? :P 21:42:19 Title: Conway's Game of Life 21:43:07 yeah even that one 21:45:03 well, conways game of life is at least a zero player game 21:45:32 Nullitaire? 21:46:48 mason: sounds like my kind of game 21:47:53 (for those who don't know: i suck at games. and only recently now that games have "Story mode" i can play them thru) 21:49:07 already in 1986 there was a game called Portal published by Activision which was rather an interactive scifi book than a game 21:54:22 when i was 2, i knew nothing about computers… I dunno when i learned about them… probably some time around ten? I think it took way too long to grasp that computer games and computers are related 22:03:32 I think I understand right off that computers *were* games, and really fun ones. :) 22:03:37 understood* 22:04:44 * meena 's favourite MMORPG is FLOSS 22:09:47 this is weird so im running freebsd as a host with virtualbox once i started to configured my vm to used my bridge interface my network connection started acting wierd once i did a service netif restart my machine reboots 22:09:54 anyone else ran into this issue 22:09:54 22:09:57 ? 22:15:44 bsdbandit: can you refine "started acting"? 22:19:45 pretty sure no service … should result in a reboot 22:23:49 oh, i… just that bit 22:24:31 maybe it's time to… boot a CURRENT kernel with all the debugging enabled 22:24:37 and/or sleep