Is there a way to get /usr/bin/file to test for and dump out whether the given file is an ELF executable or not? (or am I going to have to utilize cut?)

I'm whipping up a quick script that scans a dir tree for executable files (executables + *.so basically) and generates a recursive tree of dependencies.

I'm using fd-find and just noticed that it lists /usr/local/bin/bdftogd as an executable, but it's a perl script. So obviously ldd fails on it.

Try "--brief --mime-type" options? termbin.com/jjjk0

Or, see "--mime" option for bit more verbose output than "--mime-type"

technically it is executable

So perhaps match on "application/x-(.+?)?executable$" (with "--mime-type" option)

"file" has "--exclude" option to exclude a test but failed to see any option to supply a (list of) specific test(s)

si there not a better way to do this?

like take a snapshot and diff it to before you install

if i got fbsd 13.1 p3, why does freebsd-update fetch say no updates needed to update system to ... 13.1 p5?

The FAQ does not have the answer to abov e FAQ.

(The FAQ: docs.freebsd.org/en/books/faq )

Title: Frequently Asked Questions for FreeBSD 12.X and 13.X | FreeBSD Documentation Portal

*sigh*

When there are no updates in the kernel, kernel version is not changed. If there are changes in user land, there version is bumped up. See manual page of "freebsd-version"; run it with "-rku" options

For longer term reference, see forums.freebsd.org/threads/kernel-userland-mismatch-version.62948

Title: Solved - Kernel/userland mismatch version | The FreeBSD Forums

(... very likely one of many)

tyvm!

The FreeBSD project really should just bump up all the damn versions to the same string already :-|

ya or make the output text more clear

parv, I believe the reasoning behind that is that unless the kernel version changed, you don't need to reload the kernel (and thus, reboot). You just need to go single-user and back to multi-user. IMO that's misguided because 1- for ease, many would reboot anyway; and 2- some configurations require rebooting for non-kernel reasons, eg ZFS-on-root if the ZFS module changed. But that's very much an

uphill fight.

(IOW, I agree.)

What really gets me is that a security advisory does not (explicitly) mentions to check the user land version e.g. in case of freebsd.org/security/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-22:15.ping.asc

In that regard life is simpler, less stressful due to source (install & then later) upgrade

afk

Happy New Year 2023!

Are you in fucking Japan?

W000W I have to be in Japan!?

Yeah

lol

Not yet! But I can move with freebsd! ;)

xD

it's 2023 in NZ

wooow

I still have somewhat 11 hours left till new year xD

still 3 and a quarter hours to go in Japan

xD

xD

oh

what

Hey, does anyone know how to make a subtitle compatible with an TV receiver? What it seems to reject: subtitles with BOM or that are LF line-terminated, but should be CRLF line-terminated

Those 2 seemed to be the problem

(and seems that it needs to be UTF-8)

and now it seems that even that doesn't fix the problem for every title

file SUBTITLE.srt - it's, for example, 'Unicode text, UTF-8 text, with CRLF line terminators', but it still doesn't work in the TV

PredatorONormies: sounds like you might need unix2dos or dos2unix

it's recognized, but it does not work (works in my PC, but not TV receiver trough USB)

:( what's that?

I fear it's some hidden characters in the file that are shit

a program to convert text files from unix carriage returns to dos carriage returns and vice-versa

oh, really? but if `file` shows 'CRLF', then it should work, no?

it should yes

or perhaps it's not on every line and somehow not up to the standard expected?

would unix2dos fix subtitles with such problem?

In any case - I've seen unix2dos mentioned a lot.. I just thought I could do it on my own.. I probably could but..

lol initial release 1989

Thanks

PredatorONormies: you might want to check out what features subtitlecomposer and/or subtools in ports/multimedia do.

zykotick9, good fucking idea ;-; I am so stupid, I never thought to do that

some TVs can't deal with external subtitles no matter what the format

and by TV, i mean firmware. (if you could do anything about it, I'd call it software)

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meena, Hmmm interesting

No wait waht no

what* no, it can

Like I said - lots of subtitles work with the file specification that I mentioned

just a few didn't

and I somehow managed to turn LF to CR/LF, but even that didn't help for all of them

Heey, is there a way for 2 computers to connect DIRECTLY to each other trough a switch?

I came to believe it's a faulty switch.

isn't there something like ARP or something?

meena

connect directly? arp is only one layer

usually they connect with 'tcp' but obviously, both would need an ip address

are you trying to connect to your tv?

IP address? don't they got a MAC address and shit?

nah

I got a switch

and I want 2 computers to talk directly trough the switch without an router/modem

PredatorONormies: you need an ethernet cable. not sure if it needs to be a special one, or if ethernet NICs these days can deal with whatever

Or should I have bought a separate router just for my little network?

the name "router" makes more sense xD

I got a ethernet cable

Like I said - all connected trough switch

cannot I just like `ssh SOME-MAC-ADDRESS`?

No.

Is there anything that I can do with this switch?

I should have got another router :(

I want shit to be routed without internet access

You can use private (RFC1918) IPv4 addresses, or the IPv6 equivalents, but you need IP addresses for any IP network, whether there's a router on it or not.

remember the network before IP and TCP?

Arpanet? Cyclades?

bacl

back*

I do have a laptop that has some sort of modem port on it.. and it's similar to an ethernet port, but it has 2 wires, and the ethernet plug doesn't go in it..

Hmmm out

V_PauAmma_V: I was thinking… other things, but i can't remember. I thought OS/2 implemented them, but it looks like it was just doing standard (BSD;) TCP/IP

Is the connector smaller but with the same shape as Ethernet?

IPX/SPX

Oh, XNS. I *hated* that.

somehow, i confused OS/2 with Novell Netware

and who could forget NetBIOS? (I could, easily)

I wish I could.

back

is 'bridging' what I'm looking for?

no

PredatorONormies: you want to setup a compatible IP on each end

I am confused ;( I cannot think because my eyes hurt

how do I do that? with arp or ifconfig?

or dchp?

PredatorONormies: DHCP can do that for you, yes

0.o really?

Do you know of any guide/tutorial?

basically, you setup dhcpd or dnsmasq on one of the computers, and you plug the ethernet into both.

same thing if I have a switch in-between the two?

PredatorONormies: switches are no routing boundaries, so, yes

o.o

h-hoy

h-hot

thenks, ill report back

meena: Banyan Vines? :D

pertho: ethernet over token ring

I worked at a place that had token ring (late 90s).. sometimes I would set one of the machines to 4 MB/s so it'd bring the entire ring down to 4 MB/s from 16 MB/s.. just for the heck of it :P

when we didn't wanna do lab work, we'd just remove the terminator. and then they switched to ethernet…

haha

i was the vip at a lan party because i had the only hub with both ethernet and bnc; before i arrived there were two networks

I also remember, years later, while working for Dell tech support. A co-worker was someone who had been to several of my LAN parties, one of the first words out of their mouth to me - Do you still have LAN parties!? heh, the answer was no. It was actually Compaq people at my LAN parties. Ahhh, old OEMs... nostalgia.

rtprio: lan parties.. wow.. I miss those

bring beer and pizza.. gaming all night. and sharing files.. and in one case in January driving home in a snowstorm at 3am

The CRT monitors at the time where hell to move, I don't miss those!

zykotick9: how do you play ut2004 on freebsd? With the linux-u-lator? or WINE?

pertho: linuxulator

I tried getting ut2004 working on my void linux box but.. you can't get libstdc++.so.5 any more :(

but getting it running on FreeBSD would be better

ironically, it installs in Debian but won't run - copy the folder to FreeBSD and it runs great

LOL - that's the debian issue as well ;)

Quake 3 has workarounds nowadays like: ioquake3.org (which I've played on OpenBSD.. I'm sure FreeBSD may have a port of it)

Title: ioquake3 – Play Quake 3 and make new games

i use ioquake3

I still host quakeworld and quake 2 servers (and xonotic) on occasion for the folks in #openbsd-gaming :D

i've also got quake2(linux port)/doomsday for doom and doom2/dhewm3 for doom3 installed, but rarely play them.

the quake4-demo part runs on a freebsd box with an AMD video card, but freezes the graphics system during play :( on my freebsd/nvidia box it doesn't run :(

s/part/port/

I have two 12.3 hosts, everything else is on 13.1 - time to update those two hosts.

I did get nvidia optimus working on FreeBSD 13.1.. but I gave up because a game I wanted to play kept disconnecting from the network every 2-5 minutes randomly..

my two workstations are almost identical (except for RAM) both run FreeBSD 13.1 but I use ports (directly) on one, and the other I stick to using pkg for everything.

pertho: i miss 'em too

i have 2 13 hosts and the rest are 14

when is 13.0 going EOL? almost all of my jails are 13.0, and… i feel like i need to do something radical to upgrade them… like… switching to buildah + podman.

i saw that peter wemm was doing that too

I just need to teach buildah how to build jails with PkgBase…

rtprio: where? blog.crashed.org

Title: Stuff and things - Peter Wemm's personal blog

@karinjiri⊙sco/109604238075550550

meena: Take care to get snapshots and such when you upgrade them. I've had point releases break services in the past.

meena, 13.0 reached EOL end of August 2022 IIRC.

I've installed bind-tools-9.18.7. The manpage for dnssec-keygen tells me: "In prior releases, HMAC algorithms could be generated for use as TSIG keys, but that feature was removed in BIND 9.13.0. Use tsig-keygen to generate TSIG keys." Where do I find tsig-keygen?

In dns/bind918.

yo.. Upgrade done.

(Answer courtesy of pkg-provides.)

V_PauAmma_V: I was hoping it might be shoved off in a corner like bind-tools, so I could avoid installing all the parts of bind I don't need. Like, every other part besides nsupdate.

Ah, thanks for the reference, that will reduce my noise in the future.

freshports can search pkg-plists too

Yes, yes, it can.

V_PauAmma_V: oooof

3 month after the 13.1 release so yes about august

see also freebsd.org/security/#sup

Title: FreeBSD Security Information | The FreeBSD Project

Also in retro-gaming-FreeBSD-news, for the last two months the FreeBSD ports tree has had the "current" version of MAME! Me and three other people rejoice! It's a different situatation than usual, for a while OpenBSD had a more recent version. MAME's newest version came out a couple of days ago, nothin' in Freshports yet - but if the FreeBSD port gets upgraded again - it would be 2 versions ahead of

Debian's development branch sid. <- something I never dreampt would happen

Yaay Mame

been a while since I looked at it tho

pertho: LAN parties and MAME, you're my kinda people ;) Happy new year.

^ UT / LAN parties / MAME actually

:)

Happy New Year everyone!!!

happy new year folks

gmt+1, then

west europe

Isn't UTC+1 central europe?

ixmpp: if you're trying to figure out where I'm from, you can just ask..

..though it's not exactly a secret. :P

i know, i just like the minigame

thats my new years fun

xtile, there's that misbegotten thing called DST. :-)

same thing though, otherwise

True, unfortunately, though often not in this month over there.