the only power you can safe is by reducing weight of the always running on main CPU software realistically

"saVe"

the rest of devices do manage themselves quite well (own firmware / power saving mode)

the new power / efficiency cores in later arm-like laptop CPUs are going to be "helping" with that too

anyone know how to get qbittorrent to support torrent v2 on freebsd? it shows up in archlinux but not here

well folks, i finally have a desktop working yay

now if we could get a port of fenrir screenreader that would be awesome

Fudge, is that a GUI screenreader, or a VTY-based one?

Fudge: given that it's python, maybe try pipx for installing it

Title: FreshPorts -- devel/py-pipx: Install and Run Python Applications in Isolated Environments

and then, as normal user, pipx ensurepath

and, pipx install fenrir

Ah, the latter, if I understand raw.githubusercontent.com/wiki/chrys87/fenrir/User.md correctly.

does anything still need hald_enable="YES" in FreeBSD 13.1?

I heard hald was phased out

wow.. is FreeBSD's built-in sshd broken? It ignores 'PasswordAuthentication no' in /etc/ssh/sshd_config completely and still prompts for passwords

also.. my 13.1 seems stuck on 'FreeBSD 13.1-RELEASE-p3' and freebsd-update fetch seems to think 'No updates needed to update system to 13.1-RELEASE-p5.'. What happened to -p4 and -p5 updates?

pertho, that happens with fixes that only change userland or modules, not the kernel itself. Try "freebsd-version -kru".

V_PauAmma_V: that gives me 2 lines of -p3 and last line -p5

First two lines are installed kernel and running kernel. Last is userland.

ah cool so I'm up to date

Yes. (I agree that's confusing.)

I'm in the habit of using the -kru options every time.

still not sure why sshd -T outputs 'passwordauthentication no' and yet if I connect in with ssh and don't have my ssh key loaded, it prompts for password.

yeah -kru sounds like the way to go :)

pertho: can you log in, or is ssh just fooling possible atackers?

yeah I can log in with the password when it prompts

like, when it prompts for the ssh key passphrase, I just hit enter.. then it says: (user@host) Password for user@host:

it shouldn't be prompting for Password for user@host at all..

pertho, do you have separate configuration files that the background sshd and the one in "sshd -T" may use? That could happen if you used -f in sshd_flags or set sshd_chroot (both in /etc/rc.conf or one of the other configuration files listed in rc.conf(5)).

V_PauAmma_V: no, just sshd_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf

ahh.. maybe I need to set KbdInteractiveAuthentication no as well?

I thought 'PasswordAuthentication no' was enough?

yeah setting KbdInteractiveAuthentication to no fixes it.. but.. that is odd..

so 'PasswordAuthentication no' and 'KbdInteractiveAuthentication yes' means passwords still work :/

pertho: and you restartd sshd to test this?

yes indeed

not sure PasswordAuthentication does what you think it does

since the default _is_ 'no'

on OpenBSD's sshd, PasswordAuthentication no and KbdInteractiveAuthentication yes still refuses all password logins

well we're not using openbsd are we

I know, I'm just comparing ssh option behaviour

What is UsePAM set to?

I've not got it set so whatever the default is

usepam yes

then of course it's going to take a password

to auth with pam, duh

ah ok

PAM doesn't count as password :-)

PAM can do many things and all of them are enabled by UsePAM.

cracauer: so a disabled user, with the right permissions and ssh keys... would still log in with usepam off, wouldn't it

you'd have to delete the account completely so ssh wouldn't recognize it

I would have to test. Right now I am getting confused about how ChallengeResponseAuthentication mixes into this.

Certainly not following the principle of least surprise.

ChallengeResponseAuthentication is a deprecated alias for KbdInteractiveAuthentication and is just mentioned in my man

It looks like KbdInteractiveAuthentication is what you really want for disabling password login.

yeah sounds like it

the auth options can be pretty confusing.. just glad I don't use Kerberos :D

That puts a plug onto anything that asks for a password interactively including PAM.

I wonder how hard that would be

I should ask mwlucas, or read his book on PAM

we have libfido2 now in base

pertho: OpenBSD, for whatever reason, chose to

..not implement PAM.

They use something else that isn't hooked into sshd the same way PAM does on every other Unix-like.

s/does/is/

I find PAM aggravating to configure and use..

have to deal with it on Loonix at $work so...

OpenBSD provides login_ldap and login_radius if you need external auth methods

hi, having read this SO question stackoverflow.com/questions/4401084…t-is-a-required-dependency-for-cups I am wondering if it would be possible to manually invoke pstops with the PPD definition, then use pstoraster, then rastertospl (in my case I have a Samsung SPL printer) and then just output the command with print to the relevant printer port

Title: printing - Why ghostscript is a required dependency for cups? - Stack Overflow

Does "SPL" spell "Samsung printer language"?

right

Title: cups - Is it possible to invoke pstops manually from command line? - Stack Overflow

btw, is CUPS installed by default in FreeBSD?

It comes as dependency of other packages; is not part of base install

I do not recall having had it installed. Why could I have port 515 opened?

oh that is lpd

It is the last time I buy a printer without either PS or PCL support

hi. Is it possible to force laptop to charge battery?

I have cable connected to my laptop, apm says it charging, but it is not. It droped to 1%

to charge I have to remove cable, wait a while and connect it again

is it FreeBSD thing?

is it some kind of apm issue?

wikan: Sounds more like a bad battery or cable.

But you can boot a GNU/Linux stick and see if that matters. That'd rule out the OS as the cause.

well under Devuan charging worked always when cable was plugged

hrm

Depending on the laptop, you could have (ThinkPad for instance) SMAPI settings that mean "don't charge" and FreeBSD can't (yet) influence those, but that seems unlikely.

maybe I should turn apm off?

Dunno. But yeah, vary as many knobs as you can, one at a time, and see what changes.

i quess powerd != apm, right?

powerd is CPU frequency - don't think it does other things

disabled, waiting :)

doesn't apm gauge how much battery is left based on usage over time? So if you use more of a power draw in a short period, it drops the time/percentage faster?

ok,will try from bios

have people had good luck setting dev.hwpstate_intel.x.epp=100 on laptops (for each core) for power savings?

I saw other advice that said to set economy_cx_lowest="LOW" and economy_cpu_freq="LOW" in /etc/rc.conf.. as well.. not sure what the different is, but the hwpstate_intel driver seems more finely tuned

I've got a question for port maintainers: Are these easy-to-do bug reports with accompanying patch (that just bump the version number, update the distinfo) actually welcome? Or is it just a nuisance?

Certainly welcome reminders not to slack off :-)

Does ZFS respond well to device name changes? For example If have a virtual device originally with it's members as da6,da7,da8,da9. Then I decide to move the physical connections round so that it's members are now da3,da4,da5,da6

trying to get Fenrir screenreader working, it wants FCSA which is how it reads the console, is there an alternative. i cannot find a package

From what I understand, moving the device nodes around should not be a problem as ZFS is using IDs

lol nice nickname 'eniac'