so this directory has three files: one named `a file`, a second named `another file`, and a third named just `files` that showed up after i did `ls > files`

i'm trying to get `grep someterm $(cat files)` to work like i want

i.e. search `a file` and `another file` for someterm

Do you want to search files for a term & list of files is another file?

If so, what you showed, should work

Or you could recursive search via "-r" option: grep -r regex <directory>

i get errors: `grep: a: No such file or directory\ngrep: file: No such file or directory\ngrep: another: No such file or directory\ngrep: file: No such file or directory`

Could you show your files & their parent directories; the directory where you create the file list; and the directory in which you run "grep"? I am thinking that you are either having path issues or are spitting out file contents instead of a file list

Title: gist:fa2deefe25fcb6c87261b192bc80ff88 · GitHub

that oughta contain all the vital bits

Ah I see, spaces in the file name which are causing the issue

Try this: while read file ; do grep term "$file" ; done < list

unfortunately, that doesn't show which file `term` was found in

i'm really hoping there's a way to avoid explicit iteration

Slap a /dev/null after the file name: ... ; grep term "$file" /dev/null ; ...

My preferred way is to use "find | xrags grep" or just "grep -r" instead of creating a file list (if I can help it)

With "find | xargs grep" : find <directory or file paths> -type f -print0 | xargs -0 grep term

With "grep -r" : grep -r term directory

whoops, i messed up the problem definition: i'm actually trying to find files without that term

grep may not help by itself. Love to be corrected.

find directory -type f | while read path ; do grep term "$path" || printf "%s\n" "$path"; done

yeah, `while read file; do grep -q someterm $file || echo $file; done < files` works well enough

Corrected: use "-L" option of "grep".

well sure, i would like to avoid iteration

... then can avoid "|| echo" part

mangling IFS any which way doesn't seem to give me a workable result

Someone or something has to iterate, regardless of you would see it or not

well sure i just meant explicitly specified

Yeah, "grep -r ..."

sure, tho in my particular use case there are a bunch of unrelated files in the same dir. that's why i'm using a file fulla filenames.

Well, then. Could use "find" in ("find ... -print0 | xargs -0 grep") to match some file pattern or not (including complete names). Or, do the explicit "while loop" with file names from a list

i really just want to find a general way to interpret a file full of names with spaces in them as individual files. plenty of times in the past that coulda come in handy.

iterable forms i've no problem figuring out

find ... -print0 | xargs -0 ..."

Instead of a shell, use Python, Perl etc

yeah, also easy solutions.

Then you would only need to worry abut shell splitting file names on a space

and what i generally end up doing

i guess i really want to force the shell into a specific manner of interpretation

Zsh behaves if one helps: ls x\ * # lists all the files that start with "x" followed by a space

sorry, didn't mean to try and trick you into solving an unrelated problem

No worries

Zsh also includes the "escaping \" during file name completion

hmm

Yehuuup

hello

is there difference between freebsd libc from openbsd libc?

I would think substituting one for the other would not work

that is to say, can i just leave some openbsd configuration and alias to freebsd?

please don't breaak

yeah

is there any one line command for system info for such as testing report?

What are you looking for?

making note for my test info in case of discussion?

My shell script that collects various output in one directory: termbin.com/7v9h3

sh user based

That is

you don't put help logic?

is your brain non-volatile permanent memory?

comment...

I've to upgrade a CARP-based router/firewall. I've already upgraded the BACKUP node and I was wondering what's the fastest way to switch CARP status? is it enough to raise advskew on one interface on the MASTER node (if preempt=1) ?

mictty, I wrote it for own use to collect different data/files; nothing more.

parv: no echo based

mictty, What do you mean by "echo based"?

parv: printf+\n

Ok I have no idea anymore what you are looking for

parv: I am appreciating

parv: i will name parvesting/parvest

thank you parv

Aye

Note that you may get permission errors for some commands if run as non-root

mage, I don't know much about CARP so take that with a grain of salt, but one way could be to disable the CARP interface alias on the master. Or docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/advanced-networking/#carp-10x (the command at the end of that section) to switch master and backup temporarily.

Title: Chapter 33. Advanced Networking | FreeBSD Documentation Portal

i just love Linux documentation: github.com/canonical/cloud-init/blo…main/cloudinit/net/__init__.py#L230 reads /sys/class/net/<devname>/device/features which, per documentation, github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/mast…ntation/ABI/testing/sysfs-class-net doesn't exist

Title: cloud-init/__init__.py at main · canonical/cloud-init · GitHub

I was gonna ask: does anyone know what the equivalent of Linux' /sys/class/net/<devname>/device/features is on FreeBSD? instead i have to ask: wtf is /sys/class/net/<devname>/device/features on Linux?

descriptive github.com/lattera/freebsd/blob/master/include/stdlib.h#L246

Title: freebsd/stdlib.h at master · lattera/freebsd · GitHub

this kinda comment makes me laugh when i am reading code

V_PauAmma_V: I raised the advskew to 254, worked

whos cute here

mictty: I'm alright

lol

another one of those days where i haven't had time to look into the mirror until noon

what's the status of ALTQ on FreeBSD? is it production ready?

It's been here since 5.3. I would be surprised if it weren't.

It's not enabled by default and doesn't work with all hardware. Unless you have very good reason to want altq look at dummynet instead.

(In 14) you can use dummynet with pf too.

I haven't used dummynet yet, will take a look, thanks

although it would be fantastic if PF could one day support the OpenBSD queue equivalent (aka ALTQ successor)

I doubt that will happen, with dummynet already implemented

in fact what I'd like to do is to bandwidth limit some VPN clients (wireguard) and pf is already used

kp: is it possible to "use" pf with dummynet on 12 and/or 13 ?

No

Well, 14 is "just 'round the corner": freebsd.org/releases/14.0R/schedule

Title: FreeBSD 14.0 Release Process | The FreeBSD Project

re@ is having a bit of a busy time.

They're just done with 12.4, will start on 13.2 soon and when they're done with that it's 14.0

There's a number of shiny things coming in 14. OpenVPN DCO, pf dummynet and ethernet support in pf.

good to hear that!

and.. (finally) if_wg

kp: what is ethernet support in pf? Layer 2?

Yeah.

Ah, just remembered, I saw it in quarterly report. Thank you!

Pretty basic, but you can tag packets based on MAC address, or send them into dummynet limiters.

It's there because of pfsense's captive portal. That needs to look at the mac address, and used to use ipfw for that. Now pfsense is pf exclusively.

Mind you, OpenVPN DCO is also thanks to pfsense.

Netgate. Rubicon, whatever.

where can I find the "2021q2 pf_ethernet report" ?

As a (ab)user of OpenVPN, it is really nice news for me

Title: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report Second Quarter 2022 | The FreeBSD Project

Title: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report 2nd Quarter 2021 | The FreeBSD Project

Title: FreeBSD Quarterly Status Report 2nd Quarter 2021 | The FreeBSD Project

thanks

I have an old HP server with 4xOpteron CPUs in it - the kernel I just upgraded to seems to only detect apic 0 - so only one core as opposed to earlier kernels.

info here pastebin.com/t40eDJbU

Title: CPU-Info - Pastebin.com

anyone know what has changed lately with apic and apic detection?

yayyy

I lovely freebsd!!! :D

BarnabasDK, can you pastebin /var/run/dmesg.boot for the server that's missing CPUs?

hi

hi

i have upgraded the pool on a FreeBSD 13.1 system and now can no longer boot from it: pastebin.com/4bcz1hG2

Title: cannot boot from zpool supporting encryption - Pastebin.com

how can i solve this? there is only some encrypted snapshot received from my ubuntu 22.04 on it, everything else is unencrypted...

deever: EFI?

deever, First let me say "I think" here. I think you need to read man zpool-features in order to understand what is happening. Then boot a live system and inspect the pool for the feature mismatch.

Since the boot system is rejecting the pool due to it having unsupported features you will need to boot a system which supports those features.

It seems impossible though that a "zpool upgrade" would upgrade the pool beyond what the current system supported.

Might that have been done on a different newer system than what you are booting?

So, what's a good (GUI) e-mail client on FreeBSD? I'm using Claws Mail on Linux, which is nice, except for some major quirks.

evolution is nice

or thunderbird

FreeBSd also has claws-mail

I've actually abandoned Thunderbrid in favor of Claws.

type pkg search claws and then pkg install package

A list of mail clients en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_email_clients

Title: Comparison of email clients - Wikipedia

I use mutt in a text terminal (plus firefox if needed) myself so no help here.

I support a friend's email with RoundCube which is a webmail platform. Been told I should look at Mailpile too. But those would be heavy admin setups.

Oka,y I'm probably just go with Claws then.

ok

I have heard good things about sylpheed and that is in ports.

thunderbird > * (if only they would remove the "chat" and add proper exchange calendar/contacts without using addons)

More often then not, I can't even type anything in Thunderbird because it's downloading messages…

Also, the address book implementation is somewhat off.

Oh, and it uses way too much RAM, too.

true.

msiism: yeah the RAM usage is wayyy too much

evolution is nicer

I actually have half a mind on trying out KDE Plasma and whatever mail client comes with that.

I think its called KMail or so

Oh right.

iirc it was not bad, but some options where kinda confusing.

The only thing that keeps me from the KDE tools are the dependencies... that are so many if you do not use KDE

Yeah. But there's a "Qt-only" version of Falkon in packages, for example.

I've already installed that.

we need a better way to configure pointopoint routes in FreeBSD: gist.github.com/642efb4e0f4da255382bc299ec65ce83

Title: rc.conf · GitHub

By the way, why is it that I have to configure the X cursor theme in two places to make it work throughout?

msiism: Ok, I never used Falkon, is it any good?

Yeah, Falkon is pretty neat. I mean, you can't really manage JS in a meaninful way, but I just usally switch it off.

Hmm, I might try it some time this weekend.

Okay, got Claws Mail working.

Does anybody know why some zathura plugins (mupdf, epub) disappeared from the ports collection?

pmnw: zathura-pdf-mupdf is in ports

otis: wait, you're right. I don't know why I thought it was missing. I swear I didn't imagine it. No problem then.

That redglass X cursor theme is really neat, by the way.