You don't really need bacblocks with UFS or ZFS.

hi all

I'm noticing for some variety of lately that bash segfaults on shutdown. Is this a known thing?

does devd fire an event on wakeup? i'd like to restart openntpd when a VM walked

wakes up

There's /etc/rc.suspend and /etc/rc.wakeup iirc

Sorry, it's /etc/rc.resume

man.freebsd.org/rc.resume(8) isn't very descriptive on /etc/rc.resume itself

Title: rc.resume(8)

It's just an rc script, like any other.

Also yes, devd gets resume notifications from the kernel, see devd.conf(5)

..that was what you asked for, after all.

oh, lol - i didn't read the deprecation notice - it's going away :/

or maybe it's only one of them? seems inclear..

unclear

debdrup: Where's the deprecation notice?

doesn't seem to be called

codeberg.org/FreeBSD/freebsd-src/sr…ranch/main/libexec/rc/rc.resume#L55 ← this isn't logged anywhere

Title: freebsd-src/rc.resume at main - freebsd-src - Codeberg.org

gist.github.com/ec8f515cb05321272e4fd78783a664e9 this isn't fireing

Title: gist:ec8f515cb05321272e4fd78783a664e9 · GitHub

gist.github.com/0eacd0e1052b15538f2f9645137fcb7c neither does this

Title: gist:0eacd0e1052b15538f2f9645137fcb7c · GitHub

and devd -d doesn't log anything happening

eh, echo "Usage: $0 [apm|acpi] [standby,suspend|1-4]"

meena: freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=devd.….0-current&arch=default&format=html search for resume in the kern system

Title: devd.conf

although since it's in the kernel system, it might've just been moved

debdrup: I'm testing 13.1 right now, and this: gist.github.com/fa271e15e99681f779a1696048aeedb8 doesn't fire

Title: gist:fa271e15e99681f779a1696048aeedb8 · GitHub

doesn't fire with kern either

Does FreeBSD offer a digital signature for its release images somewhere?

Yes. For example on freebsd.org/releases/12.3R/announce there is "PGP-signed checksums for the release images are also available at: FreeBSD.org/releases/12.3R/signatures"

Title: FreeBSD 12.3-RELEASE Announcement | The FreeBSD Project

Oh, great. Thanks.

Maybe, Chapter 2 of the Handbook should also mention that.

Does a desktop system actually need a /var partition?

Coming from Linux, I'm used to partition layout like this: /boot, /, swap, /home.

But then, /home seems to be /usr/home in FreeBSD.

midnight: /home is a symbolic link to /usr/home

I see.

So, is there anyhting wrong with using the above partition scheme then, if I get the sizes right?

msiism: I usually just go with whatever the installer suggests

hi just curious I finally installed linux ubuntu on my laptop but was wondering how easy it would be to do that with freebsd?

meena: Yeah, but then that might not be ideal in every case.

cause it sounded complicated this was very simple

msiism: are you using ZFS or UFS?

I mean, I really like the idea of having /home on a separate partition.

I'll be uisng UFS because I don't have a lot of RAM.

paul2: depends on the hardware.

msiism: how much is not a lot?

2G

Also, I guess UFS is fine for me.

I've been using ext3/4 on Linux up until now.

msiism: I run VMs with that little RAM on ZFS; generally, ZFS has a threshold for when to start using ARC (the thing that eats lots of RAM)

I see.

I find the benefits of ZFS outweigh what it weighs on the RAM

what is ZFS ?

can you explain it?

I'm not exactly sure about those benefits, to be honest. But I guess I don't really need them.

I understand the different file systems

Title: Chapter 21. The Z File System (ZFS) | FreeBSD Documentation Portal

boot environments are pretty cool…

and then I get a VM dropped into my hands, and it's running on UFS, and I cry,,,

anyway, remember Solaris kids? I grew on Solaris

(And same as meena, I have 2GB VMs using ZFS. So much so than when I installed one using UFS, it felt unusual, despite being raised on SunOS4.)

Okay, I'm not using multiple disks, but maybe ZFS is worht a shot anyway.

I mean, this isn't going to be the last time I'll be installing FreeBSD on that computer, I guess.

Iterative refinement…

msiism: in the first couple of weeks of getting a computer, i re-installed Windows about 70 times

Well, I'm probably not gonna do it this many times.

I just need to get into how this actually works.

by the end, I knew XP key by heart

Seems like FreeBSd is actually a nice system that I should have started looking into much earlier.

suricrasia.online/iceberg FCKGW-

Title: The Cursed Computer Iceberg Meme

msiism: I only started looking into it (again) after jails got VNET…

so, around 2017

I only have a vague idea of what jails is. I'm generally a desktop user, though not necessarily using a GUI.

i use emacs (as vim) and browser and a terminal, and everything else happens on servers in jails

msiism: you should look at Mr. Jan Schaumann CS615, Week 4, Segment 2, OS Installation. Although the examples are related to NetBSD, the general concept should apply to FreeBSD; youtube.com/watch?v=XRTDMgIpK68&t=1s

Title: CS615 System Administration, Week 04, Segment 2 - OS Installation - YouTube

Okay, I'll try that. I have run NetBSD for a bit on that same machine, a while back.

Thanks for the tips. I'll probably be back later.