according to freshports.org/x11/libwacom it has a build dependency to devel/evdev-proto

Title: FreshPorts -- x11/libwacom: Adds tablet support to libinput

It might be a starting point for porting the braille-wolf

When I load drm-kmod, my screen becomes blank. I have CometLake-S GT2 [UHD Graphics 630].

can you please tell me what causes this problem?

did you install the package, or compile the port? Kernel modules very often have to match the current system version (freebsd-update does change the basesystem).

Kalten: I compiled the port.

So: do compile and install the port.

ah---ok. Hmmm...

I am sorry, I am likely not able to help you with that. It seems to me, that one is helped here better around 18oo-00oo UTC. (as orientation: now it is 00:39 UTC) (I think there some quite active users from around west Europe/England)

is it possible my monitor becomes blank because its resolution is 1920x1080?

and drm-kmod can't automatically detect the monitor's resolution?

are the system and the portstree aproximatly the same age? (portstree update after systemupdate, boot, than compile and reinstall port)

unlikely

I compiled a kernel, rebooted my system, then compiled github.com/freebsd/drm-kmod

But you could connect to your mashine via ssh and go through the log files

yeah, let my try it

hmmm... it might be, that some ports (in the ports tree) have to be new enough too. I have never used it. Last resort might be to recompile all installed ports prior to rebuilding drm? Just guessing now.

 /var/log/ an maybe in

...8<--- /etc/syslog.conf

*.* /var/log/all.log

--->8...

and restart syslogd?

`killall -HUP syslogd` I assume

service syslogd restart

service syslog stop

echo "syslog_flags='-ss'" >> /etc/rc.conf

service syslog start

it says it can't load kbl_dmc_ver1_04.bin

what directory usually has this file?

Oleg: did you compile from github or use the freebsd port

Kalten, Thanks for the clue re Wacom etc

np intel c

/ =12

D: Nov 13 06:18:53 Unvanquished kernel: [15024629] sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff8005e7113e0 (45.76.244.95:25 (proto 6)): Listen queue overflow: 193 already in queue awaiting acceptance (10 occurrences)

Do I need to restart my smtpd?

By chance is that ... qmail?

Re fenrir & evdev looking for "linux" files, I see that "evdev-proto" package had been already installed which installs the needed files. Now "it

parv: of course. :D

... is only a matter of passing the right include path".

I suppose I should write my own smtpd for it? My site does get a fair bit of traffic.

We've been down on SMTP and SMTPS for IPv4 for a hot minute due to this.

why is the readiness longer than the uptime... (s6-specific question, sorry.)

By "overflow" I was reminded of recent bug, which apparently is not one, in qmail <damnit lost the URL>

(it is a bug in qmail.)

Right, I've turned off the ipv4 smtpd for now. I'm going to set up my other server to relay mail to my domains.

Right, set a less-preferred MX and set my remote host to relay ad-hoc, that should work for the duration of the outage

(the intent is to hold mail at the less-preferred MX until the main comes up)

LXGHTNXNG, opensmtpd ?

cpet: Nope, qmail, as previously discussed.

no I mean thats an option qmail has remained 1.03 for years now

I know quite well. I maintain a fork of qmail.

my upstream, schmonz' notqmail, is probably not aware of this specific failure mode.

I just use opensmtpd or sendmail I used qmail for a while and exim but I like opensmtpd pf like syntax

not sure I trust a software that hasnt had a release since 1998 or an updated version since 2017

but any who :)

hehe

yeah

qmail has unfixed vulns

which my fork, Nightmare Mail, intends to fix as much as possible

reminds me of sendmail with all the vuln the remake and yet more vulns

heh

but it's included and works

ye

I think we've restored service. Still not out of the woods, as I have tcpserver smtpd running attached to a terminal, rather than my svscan, but that'll be fine.

LXGHTNXNG: did you name nightmare email after corresponding xkcd?

mictty: probably not.

I named it after the nightmare I was having trying to get it to do a thing.

your nightmare, my disaster

:D

qmail presentation videos on YouTube does not show actual interaction

just a sequence of slides. Clueless to watch for beginners

heck.

i think we have restored service. one thing that happened is the logger service broke in an arcane way.

i can't say whether that is the cause. Bercotware is bizarre.

qmail was nice in its day but it wasnt in my opinion after every modern opotion was a 3rd party patch so I moved onto postfix

now I just use opensmtpd or sendmail just so people ask me "why"

cpet, Why do you still not use Postfix?

I find opensmtpd config easier

usr/ports/mail/opensmtpd

cpet: got you (:

nothing fancy but it works and makes the free services happy

Should I write my own smtpserver in Tcl?

think theres already one

does opensmtpd imply no imap?

find . -name Makefile |xargs grep TCL

/exmh2/Makefile:TCLSH= tclsh8.0jp

mictty, I use mbox and old school mail to read my emails

you can use dovecot and do its magic but bleh

exmh is a TCL/TK based interface to the MH mail system

cpet, unix.beer URL is showing connection timeout. I will take your word of configuration being simpler. (postfix was ok too IMO. Anyway)

ok so maybe not a server but its in tcl

look at the config

match from any for domain "drink.unix.beer" action "local"

unix.beer doesnt serve mail

unix.beer is hosted on icloud drink is local

cpet, I was trying to access unix.beer/~chris/smtpd.conf that you posted earlier

im sure you made apache unhappy

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

does your ip start with 119 14 195 34 45 93 ?

what is that beer? is this another stallman reference?

i drink a lot of beer while im using unix

so unix beer

parv, try again if you dont want to tell me which ip yours starts with

cpet: your blog, based.

its a personal site

cpet: is that bytes of an ipv6 addr{

no those are files apache creates when you connect more than 2 times

ap24-mod_evasive-1.10.1_2

Hello

I'm trying to build packages using poudriere with libressl, but some ports are not building

hi

yeap that is normal

hehe I know

cpet, I am aware of only the IPv4 address pattern; above does not look like mine. Tried again, same error as before. Oh well

how do I set the ports that dont build to use a different ssl?

do you use chrome or firefox ?

think it defaults to https

Gud, once upon a time you could do that with portmaster and I think you can do that with poudriere

different source?

but I do not know how as I dont really compile ports any more

e o e

cpet: you can, but I forgot the specific options to set

mictty: No; you can use dovecot. I use dovecot with my qmail, where i want imap.

i bet it's the 62.x

cpet, I see that you that the URL is devoid of "s" in "https" *ugh*; will try that way (in Firefox)

one day ill setup letsencrypt

but as of now its not needed

LXGHTNXNG: I need to learn more about general notion. but I will keep the combination in mind. Thanks.

it uses ipfw with a whitelist on my IP and blacklistd with rather anal setup

as its a personal site so as long as I can see it

cpet, I have/had turned of "https all the time everywhere" but Firefox still went to "https" scheme. Can see in "w3m"

cpet, Yea I like the syntax

partly why I cant stand nginx

confuses the hell out of me

:)

cpet: i thought you died

again?

ketas: ¿_¿

i was active duty for 3 years then i was deployed then x y z happened

ketas, ^

duty?

cpet: but they never buried you so you were able to recover?

I guess

why makes to bury a solder?

*what

I dont know

im just here wondering why bhyve fails to load a freebsd vm

cpet: to forcefully encourage to use jail?

aparently bios is weird with zfs creating a bootpool that freebsd-update cant find

cpet: I wish I get some vacation to work on what you are doing

a reinstall fixed it

cpet: is there any output anywhere

unable to determine kernel

fixed reinstalling using BIOS+UEFI

ah

dont get the script though

Title: zfsboot « scripts « bsdinstall « usr.sbin - src - FreeBSD source tree

Title: BOOTFILE=`sysctl -n kern.bootfile` KERNELDIR=${BOOTFILE%/kernel} if ! [ -d $ - Pastebin.com

seems to break there

cpet: why you only had gf for 3y

ketas: can you stop asking random strangers on the internet about their sexual lives?

My useful idiots had to put you on their killfile because of this same behavior you are exhibiting today.

bleh its IRC not twitter

no i can't

it is irc, and twitter is dying, cpet

good

but that doesn't make what ketas is doing any less shit.

cpet is not really stranger

ive known ketas for a long time so

you hadn't know my useful idiots for a very long time when you asked them comparable questions.

plonk.

useful idiots?

killfile?

think hes creating a hit list for you ketas

do you know what a killfile is?

Title: Kill file - Wikipedia

hahaha LXGHTNXNG

cpet

easier to just /ignore ketas

reason being weird

?

random ignores

guys, just stop it.

but you can do it

see perfect example

i have done, cpet. this conversation is being unnecessarily prolonged by other parties

i don't even know LXGHTNXNG

neither do I but aparaently he doesnt like you asking about my gf

but any who

wasnt there a shell that you could allow or disallow cmds ?

or was that rush?

i've seen a couple of restricted shells in my time

there was one that each cmd you typed it could echo out a msg

but I forget the name

all were vulnerable?

:)

probably

find . -type f -name pkg-descr -exec /bin/cat {} \;

i would do openssh force cmd intead maybe

doesnt really show any

think fish did something like that

good evning, my vm ive updated to 11.4-release and ssh has broken somewhere along the line, sshd should I say. get what looks like a version conflict. says something elf.so error compat20 in conf file.

can you give us the full and precise text of the error return?

ill try to capture the error

looks like someone failed to run freebsd-update -r upgrade more than once

the patronizing terminology isn't really conducive to the desired environment, is it

look who's talking

MIME is an ugly hack just fyi

well it works

ld-elf.so.1: Undefined symbol "compat20" referenced from COPY relocation in /usr/sbin/sshd

i just thought maybe since the filesystem filled up could be why it fell over?

maybe something in hw kicked the bucket and corrupted things

ummmmmmmm

hw? hardware?

you should always ensure you have at least 2GB free on the / and /usr filesystems before you run an upgrade

you will be subject to additional downtime to extract your files and start over

yeah absolutely, didnt remember how smal the vm was. it's no issue at all i just had it to relearn

it may be possible to salvage this without starting over but it won't be easy

just compare files

even harder when i cant see the console. i am having to |espeak -s 400 to read things and using script and piping tha tot espeak as well. since im blind

or like, do another upgrade

with fs free this time

i thought it was the sshd_config so i dropped the vanilla one in, but you mean pull one out of ports or something, the actual sshd script from /etc/rc.d?

what is fs free?

oh

uh

like ensure having free space this time

goodness

yeah that's pretty noob mistake loL

is it still cfdisk to expand filesystems?

should I write a Tcl script to parse the json into a conversational format

my good deed for today

ketas: the pneny just dropped with 'fs free' ahahaha'

penny

Fudge, did you do src or bin update ?

11.4 is EOL so could be why as well

Fudge: now it's likely gpart

freebsd-update upgrade

did you install?

then install again

then 2 more times

yes you need to run it like 4 times

freebsd-update and pkg can check for missing files, can't they?

IDS

What I am saying though guys, because I am blind without ssh running it's pretty hard to work with a console when you cannot get much output

owww

so moral is, dont break it in the first place and check obvious things lol

hah

lets all run EOL software then wonder why ransomware is a thing

does anyone have a statically linked copy of sshd for 11.4

but you have console?

11.4 is EOL

like, /rescue level static

yes I'm aware

LXGHTNXNG: or dropbear?

:)

yes i have console but i couldnt see the ouput of commands

you can extract base.xz

I want to get fudge back into their system so they can continue with the upgrades

it's all good guys i just pulled the tarball and start over, it's just a vm. im working on my real hardware box too

also, re extracting base.txz - you will want to pass --exclude ./etc/

well you can still recover it

think of it like this, if you guys turned your monitor off. what challenges would you have. you rely on the pcspkr and sending things to espeak so it reads it out. e.g whoami |espeak

well, my IRC client uses ncurses, so there's a nearly issue with that

once upon a time we had archive.

but I dont see it any more

an early.

there are number or reasons, accidental rm, upgraded library wrong way, lost power, that could all end up with partial system

actually

almost all of the programs I use have non-human-listenable output formats

this is a big problem and something I have no good solution for if I'm honest.

there was something in mailing list about it

using fbsd if blind

booting and console

but I think freebsd-update rollback

would work as well

does pkg work ? could just do pkg install openssh-portable

oh interesting

maybe that's the recent reference to Fenrir i was talking about earlier with someone

sometimes you just have to realize "I f'ed up time to format and reinstall"

heh

and I used to yell at these dumbass kids at work for not wearing eye protection

nah ive always had bad eyes and they got worse

ow

cpet: safety squints help when grinding?

:P

grinding ?

any powertool that could fling objects into you face

could be disk itself too

wheel

have you seen goggles with something stuck in it, imagine that being the eye

yeap

no

most people in the IT field probably dont even know what googles are

:)

or the obvious that plagues teenaged boys

im too cool to wear safety gear

such as the guy who asked me why dont I just use gloves when changing oil and I said saves on trash

one day I will understand why bugs. have to be so perfect while open and net accept patches litterily in chat

ketas, arent you in romania or something ?

eesti, I believe

is that code for I dont know ?

(estonia)

yes la_mettrie

how do you get estonia from eesti?

by translating the words of natural languages (estonian language -> english)

the two are the same word in different languages

lame could of just googled

I'm a dragon

how do you ssh with dragon fingers ?

chopsticks?

I make it work (:

so we have gitlab github and codeberg now ?

those are the three main git forges now

hrm

codeperger

cpet: our country has different name in every language

i don't even know how

they all ended up like this

not even going to ask why

but ok

some historic reason why one was chosen

no the git forges thing

apparently countries aren't names

what are they ?

¿

he said nothing

ok

forgot what I was doing with bhyve

something pushed important data off cpet brain

a lot of things do that

ah forgot to do a vm start

hmm is this normal after a freebsd-update? "The following files are affected by updates. No changes have been downloaded, however, because the files have been modified locally: /var/db/etcupdate/log"

Hey FreeBSD on ARM users, when I run FreeBSD aarch64 on a hypervisor, I see that the guest (FreeBSD) is using at least 100% CPU, while the system itself is idle (according to top). anyone has seen this before? I assume it a ticker/timer issue, but no idea how to fix it

so, yesterday I was talking about my monitor going into a power saving mode after I load i915kms

can someone please tell me why this keeps happening?

"pciconf -lv" gives me this info:

vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086 device=0x9bc5

subvendor=0x1043 subdevice=0x8694

and this info:

device = 'CometLake-S GT2 [UHD Graphics 630]'

so, after I load i915kms, my system never crashes, but the monitor always goes into the power saving mode.

so, after this happens, I am able to access the computer through ssh

and the output from "kldstat -v" shows that i915kms is loaded.

yesterday, someone suggested to me to look at the logs produced by syslogd to try to figure out what causes this problem, but I still don't know how to use syslogd

your pf is different from openbsd's i hear. can you guys block mac addresses with it?

asking for a friend.

lavaball not according to the manual. AFAIK even OpenBSD's pf can't do that. besides, anyone can change their MAC address, right? :-)

everyone can change their ip on a local network as well.

and mac in the open world doesn't make sense anwyay.

i'm just disappointed that pf isn't into it. i had no problem on either tables to do it.

lavaball you can, however, divert the mac traffic, by create a bridge/interface with the same mac addr. it would become unusable :D

if i wasn't old and dumb, i tell you, i would make my own os with black jack and whores!

anwyay, i'm a little over half way through the pf book, so maybe there is some other way to authenticate normal people easily.

thanks so much for explaining.

seems like ipfw can match on mac

so, please tell me why the system doesn't crash after I load i915kms, but the monitor goes into the power-saving mode.

why would you expect it to crash? but no idea why it goes into power-save

I connected the monitor to the display port.

but I had the same problem when it was connected to the hdmi port

Oleg: Have you added your user to the video group?

Babaj: how is this even related to the problem?

Babaj: I load i915kms as root and the monitor goes into the power-saving mode.

If you installed the "xf86-video-intel" package then remove this.

I don't have it installed

is it possible this issue occurs because of a buggy UEFI BIOS?

seems more like that hardware behaves weird and needs something done more or less when the driver loads to not go into power-save for some reason

I didn't have this problem when I had windows 11 or ubuntu installed.

does that happen to if you load i915kms via kld_list in /etc/rc.conf ?

and what makes it mysterious is that after I load i915kms, I can still see login to the computer through ssh and can see that i915kms is loaded

but dmesg | grep drm doesn't show me any output related to Display Port connection

but kldstat -v shows that i915kms is loaded

Oleg: Did it work fine using the standard Vesa video driver from FreeBSD?

nimaje: yes, this happens if I have kld_list in rc.conf or load i915kms manually

Babaj: I never tried it

Babaj: are you talking about xf86-video-vesa driver?

yes

and what's odd is that according to freebsd docs, uhd 630 graphics gpu is supported.

Babaj: okay, let's install this driver and try to load it.

If you have installed a Xorg server, then you have this driver installed.

and as I said before, both windows 11 and ubuntu don't have any issues with uhd 630 graphics on my computer.

Delete your driver line from rc.conf and just restart the computer.

It's not Windows and not Ubuntu.

Babaj: okay, I have vesa, xorg-server, twm, and xinit installed. I should simply type "xinit" on the command line to find out whether I can load X using vesa?

Oleg: startx

vesa is supposed to work with efi and non-efi installations?

I have an efi installation.

okay, when I type "startx", I get "no screens found"

and xorg logs tell me this:

[ 2618.251] (II) VESA(0): initializing int10

[ 2618.252] (EE) VESA(0): V_BIOS address 0x0 out of range

is it possible this is a motherboard-related issue?

my motherboard is Asus Prime Z590-P.

Oleg: you're a linux user, aren't you?

CCFL_Man: very rarely I use linux. but as I said, I didn't have any issues with the Intel GPU when I had ubuntu installed.

have any of you ever run FreeBSD using the Asus Prime Z590-P motherboard?

and is it possible this issue occurs because my UEFI BIOS might be buggy?

Oleg: startx runs the X server. it has nothing to do with vesa

because I noticed this before: linux often can load drivers just fine even when UEFI BIOS has bugs, but freebsd can't do that.

CCFL_Man: but xorg-server is supposed to automatically load vesa driver when it's installed and when xf86-video-intel is not installed

freebsd can also load drivers. often times, freebsd does not have up to date drivers

that's because it's configured that way on linux. you need to configure it to load the vesa driver

this isn't plug and play wintendo

I wish someone could help me resolve this mysterious issue.

you need to configure the X to use the vesa driver

as I said before, the freebsd docs claim that uhd 630 graphics gpu is supported

and yet, even though I am able to load i915kms, the Display Port connection is not detected and the monitor goes into the power saving mode.

you need to verify you have the exact hardware the x driver supports

and yet, mysteriously, i915kms.ko itself can be loaded because I checked it when I ran kldstat

you can load any driver you want

it more than likley does not support your hardware

perhaps it's a revision the driver does not cover

typical linux user

CCFL_Man: doesn't support my hardware? then why do freebsd docs claim that uhd 630 graphics is supported?

you need to be sure the exact hardware is supported and how it's identified in your system

CCFL_Man: well, I pasted the output from "pciconf -lv | grep -B4 VGA" earlier.

or buy hardware that is definitely supported, or modify the driver to add support for it yourself

CCFL_Man: vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086 device=0x9bc5 subvendor=0x1043 subdevice=0x8694

CCFL_Man: vendor = 'Intel Corporation'

now you look in the driver documentation for that

CCFL_Man: device = 'CometLake-S GT2 [UHD Graphics 630]'

pasting it here won't help you

driver documentation for drm-kmod?

yes

it is probably not supported

and freebsd supporting other hardware like drive controllers and network adapters is more important than a video controller becaus you like pointv and click

How to know if a service has a `status subcommand?

Linux, I believe and guess, isn't that stable as freebsd is. Or is it just ubuntu and I should try another distro? anyway, with specially UI, it bloats under heavy load. Now the problem is that Linux has a lot of utilities that I am used to an need. Some configs, shortcuts etc. Until I find a way, how can I run both linux and freebsd at the same

time? I thought of installing freebsd as guess and linux as host in virtualbox. Or vice versa is better? Or any other option? I think virtualbox based virtualization will be a bottleneck somewhere? Do I have other options? I need to run both at the same time in the start so that I can use in linux what freebsd does not have (or I do not yet get an

alternative/solution)? Any thoughts?

antranigv, service bleh status

Intelo it depends on your hardware

amd ryzen

antranigv

cpet yes, but how know if it HAS that subcommand? for example, nfsd supports the status subcommand, but /etc/rc.d/dmesg does not.

hm, I have an idea, just chekc the source code lol

Intelo yea, that's just the CPU. btw, is it a laptop or a desktop?

deskto

p

asus MB

X570 I gues

antranigv is this kind of hardware a problem?

freebsd has  lots of support for these kind of hw I guess. Right?

dmesg isnt a service

Intelo, no

Well, running FreeBSD on the desktop is a lot easier than running on a laptop, because we're not too good in the wifi department :-)

Persoanlly, I run FreeBSD on a desktop and if I need anything Linux-y, I just run a Linux Jail

cpet I know, but it has a service file, and if you run `service -e`, it tells you that it's enabled

cpet I'm trying to create `service -s`, which tells you the status of all enabled services.

dmesg isnt a service it runs and thats it

nfsd is a daemon and creates a file in /var/run which is what status looks at

ok antranigv cpet what are the suggestions to run linux + freebsd

what you want

linux has KVM freebsd has bhyve

the chances of x working in linux is more than freebsd

but its personal preference

cpet huh, trying to find that part in the code. okay I'll do more digging

cpet thanks <3

cpet X? you mean UI?

cpet what should be host os and why?

X = HW

my HW works on fbsd

Intelo, whatever you think it should be

antranigv, look at rc.d/natd pidfile

cpet well, yeah, but how does NFSd do it? lol

rc.subr ?

yup, looking into it now, looks like there's a function that says if the subcommand is available.

cpet if host is linux, the scheduling and lmiits will be bad . so guest will be influenced

check_pidfile()

Intelo, ok?

kind of defeats the purpose of your question if that is the reason for questioning

which host os should I use, but if I use linux guest will be influenced

^ makes no sense

cpet check_pidfile()

antranigv, all rc.d's include that file

> ;

bash: syntax error near unexpected token `;

bash :(

that was for antranigv

k

also dont just run what people say to run without having an idea of what it does

Intelo, on a personal note ive hated Linux ever since I first used it with slackware 3.x, been using freebsd for 25+ years now and I see a lot of people going yay freebsd! aww my special HW doesnt work help!

then people get upset cause you mentioned x in a channel of y and yada yada

so :)

I see

cpet if this had been a pain point, why freebsd folks do not add more support for HW

Linux has more support for companies freebsd only has whatever docs are provided

so not freebsd fault its crappy greedy companies that dont offer docs

ok

so if I were you linux host freebsd guest then in time ditch linux and go with freebsd

or screw what cpet says and go freebsd and run linux in bhyve

cpet okay this is weird. like, it says newsyslog is enabled (according to service -e), but why? also why is dmesg in there? :D

its enabled

check etc/defaults/rc.conf

but it's not a daemon, I assume?

its enabled

daemon hey daemon :-)

:P heya

I actually do the opposite, freebsd host with bhyve and linux guests

freebsd really does do well as the host in most cases; let it deal with the networking etc

+1

you can also if you can be bothered do things like make custom gentoo setups that are made specfically to work with bhyve; so the nvme and such support is there non kernel module loaded

you can get some pretty efficient stacks

also its a nice way of getting access to docker at the lowest cost possible

root@hp:/usr # service -e | grep -e dmesg -e new

er

which directory could I delete to be sure that a freebsd srv will not reboot ?

/boot maybe

?

I mean ... the 'uptime' command will tell you the last boot time

removing /boot system will be toasted

that's what i want

remove /boot/kernel

it should be loaded in memory anyway

antranigv, -e Show services that are enabled

that's a node to replicate some snapshots at work, and I want to kill it remotely

i removed /boot entirely

that may not be wise ... if you need to kernel module load anything it will fail

i dont get it removing /boot wont do anything as the kernel is is memory

i just need to kill the node

rm -Rf /boot && reboot

shutdown -p now ?

oh well I mean you culd use dd to write crap to th disk too

but yeah without /boot the moment you reboot; it is not coming back

the bootlaoder will trigger then panic

ok, perfect, the node is down

im curious; whyu on earth :P

yeah?

people normally are asking why the system is not booting; not how to enter that state lol

shut it down mount a new ISO reinstall and boom

cpet so this means that I don't need the services that are enabled, but rather the deamons

daemons. lol

why am I unable to find commits using git hub and the sha of the commit? for example I can't find ce9c3848ff369467749f59fd24f8b9f1241e725c using git hub but I can see it in my local copy of the src repo

crb: how do you "search" on github?

yuripv: I'm looking at the freebsd-src repo and at the top of the page is a box "search or jump to" I put in the sha and I get back the correct commit in several other repos but not freebsd src

i think it's search for repository by name? anyway that's a question for github :)

wrong, may be it just search the "default" (i.e. main) branch?

question...anyone here tried to get steam/proton going on FreeBSD with the proprientary nvidia drivers? I'm toying with the idea of getting that set up but also...if it's an excersize in futility maybe not

I'm currently using Linux as my gaming platform and it works really well...but I miss FreeBSD as my main desktop OS. Stream is what convinced me to switch over to linux, but I wouldn't mind switching back

steam*

join #freebsd-social

xanthor: I believe the nvidia driver can work with Linuxulator if you built it via ports?

Oh, huh. The LINUX value in the Makefile is part of the OPTIONS_DEFAULT environment variable - so that might not even be necessary?

Assuming the Linuxulator is new enough for Steam/Proton, it might work.

I added a feature like this bsd.network/@antranigv/109338809826149752 ; any feedback before I push? it uses column(1) in service(8), does anyone know if that's allowed? also, should I add coloring or is that too much?

Title: Antranig Vartanian: "`service -s`, a silly feature, but I like it. Th…" - BSD Network

I'd keep coloring a not-default option, personally.

Where do those 1-line sysctl variable descriptions come from? Are they directly defined in the source tree or is there a separate location for them that sysctl looks up? (will look at the source later, but if anyone knows off-hand, it could save me some time)

antranigv: I like it, and I think V_PauAmma_V has a point about coloring being a second option

_xor: the ones from the -d flag?

antranigv: columnating something in (Almquist) shell without using column(1) seems like a lot of effort though, so I think using a standard POSIX utility is fine.

debdrup thanks for the feedback, I was worried. lemme post the code as well, I'd love your feedback

_xor: the description comes from the SYSCTL_PROC macro which sets a bunch of flags like if it's MPSAFE, whether it's read-only/can be changed before booting the kernel/can be changed at runtime, and a few other things.

antranigv: I'm not a src committer, so it's very minimal what feedback I can give on the code - but since you'll hopefully be making manual page changes too, I can review those :3

f*ck, I totally forgot about the manual

Good thing you sought review then :3

debdrup <3

_xor, source tree.

apropos -s 9 sysctl

(and since service(8) is in /usr/sbin, there's no reason why it can't use a /usr/bin command.

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What's the 2022 style of contributing to FreeBSD? still using arc?

arc?

yeah, arcanist or something

for phabricator

hey, can I use -j flag for multicore complication for ports?

yes, you can use -j but not all ports will build sucessfully

ugh, maybe I should just configure poudriere and be done with it

how many ports are you building?

root@devbsd14:/usr/ports/devel/arcanist # env BATCH=1 make missing | wc -l ===> 327

pkg install -y arcanist

i would think poudriere would be overkill for this application

antraniv, which arch?

it's -CURRENT, so let's hope no ABI issues.

V_PauAmma_V I'm on aarch64

s/v/gv/

oh

oh, we have a package! okay, things are better on aarch64 FreeBSD, yey

Using poudriere for any number of packages is fine, because it makes things like cross-builds much easier.

Anyone knows what this is? "Usage Exception: Unable to find any git commit named 'usr.sbin/service/service.sh' in this repository."

ohh I have to commit locally first?

For arc with git? Yes.

now I'm getting Usage Exception: No changes found. (Did you specify the wrong commit range?)

did you "git add" first?

(git status will show a lot)

it's all fine in git log

antranigv, either "arc diff --create main" (if you used a feature branch) or (IIRC) "arc diff --create HEAD^^..HEAD" if you didn't (not recommended).

Assuming that's a single commit.

V_PauAmma_V thank you <3

Probably needs '' around the ^^ range.

Title: ⚙ D37383 service(8): add -s for showing status

(I've been meaning to poke at wiki.freebsd.org/Phabricator#Create…via_command_line_.28if_using_git.29 .)

Title: Phabricator - FreeBSD Wiki

thank you all! <3

i thought one was supposed to submit a pr; phabricator was for the freebsd team to review

"freebsd team" is loosely defined. I got a phabricator account long before I was made a committer.

antranigv: you probably want to install git arc, it makes using phabricator a lot easier

debdrup how do I do that?

For some use cases, at least.

antranigv: `cd /usr/src/ && make -C tools/tools/git install`

There's a package, I think.

Oh, there is?

Yeah, then you probably wanna use that.

So there is: devel/git-arc

freebsd-git-devtools is the one I used, IIRC.