00:01:48 according to https://www.freshports.org/x11/libwacom/ it has a build dependency to devel/evdev-proto 00:01:49 Title: FreshPorts -- x11/libwacom: Adds tablet support to libinput 00:02:56 It might be a starting point for porting the braille-wolf 00:25:30 When I load drm-kmod, my screen becomes blank. I have CometLake-S GT2 [UHD Graphics 630]. 00:25:48 can you please tell me what causes this problem? 00:35:46 did you install the package, or compile the port? Kernel modules very often have to match the current system version (freebsd-update does change the basesystem). 00:36:01 Kalten: I compiled the port. 00:36:02 So: do compile and install the port. 00:36:17 ah---ok. Hmmm... 00:40:22 I am sorry, I am likely not able to help you with that. It seems to me, that one is helped here better around 18oo-00oo UTC. (as orientation: now it is 00:39 UTC) (I think there some quite active users from around west Europe/England) 00:40:59 is it possible my monitor becomes blank because its resolution is 1920x1080? 00:41:16 and drm-kmod can't automatically detect the monitor's resolution? 00:41:18 are the system and the portstree aproximatly the same age? (portstree update after systemupdate, boot, than compile and reinstall port) 00:41:33 unlikely 00:41:59 I compiled a kernel, rebooted my system, then compiled github.com/freebsd/drm-kmod 00:42:17 But you could connect to your mashine via ssh and go through the log files 00:43:50 yeah, let my try it 00:47:03 hmmm... it might be, that some ports (in the ports tree) have to be new enough too. I have never used it. Last resort might be to recompile all installed ports prior to rebuilding drm? Just guessing now. 00:48:29 /var/log/ an maybe in 00:48:41 ...8<--- /etc/syslog.conf 00:48:51 *.* /var/log/all.log 00:48:55 --->8... 00:49:49 and restart syslogd? 00:51:57 `killall -HUP syslogd` I assume 00:52:55 service syslogd restart 00:56:39 service syslog stop 00:56:50 echo "syslog_flags='-ss'" >> /etc/rc.conf 00:56:55 service syslog start 01:11:32 it says it can't load kbl_dmc_ver1_04.bin 01:15:01 what directory usually has this file? 01:59:08 Oleg: did you compile from github or use the freebsd port 04:24:00 Kalten, Thanks for the clue re Wacom etc 04:30:50 np intel c 04:41:42 / =12 06:19:26 D: Nov 13 06:18:53 Unvanquished kernel: [15024629] sonewconn: pcb 0xfffff8005e7113e0 (45.76.244.95:25 (proto 6)): Listen queue overflow: 193 already in queue awaiting acceptance (10 occurrences) 06:19:39 Do I need to restart my smtpd? 06:26:14 By chance is that ... qmail? 06:29:14 Re fenrir & evdev looking for "linux" files, I see that "evdev-proto" package had been already installed which installs the needed files. Now "it 06:29:25 parv: of course. :D 06:29:46 ... is only a matter of passing the right include path". 06:30:05 I suppose I should write my own smtpd for it? My site does get a fair bit of traffic. 06:30:33 We've been down on SMTP and SMTPS for IPv4 for a hot minute due to this. 06:32:24 why is the readiness longer than the uptime... (s6-specific question, sorry.) 06:33:02 By "overflow" I was reminded of recent bug, which apparently is not one, in qmail 06:34:42 (it is a bug in qmail.) 06:36:27 Right, I've turned off the ipv4 smtpd for now. I'm going to set up my other server to relay mail to my domains. 06:39:53 Right, set a less-preferred MX and set my remote host to relay ad-hoc, that should work for the duration of the outage 06:40:17 (the intent is to hold mail at the less-preferred MX until the main comes up) 06:43:04 LXGHTNXNG, opensmtpd ? 06:43:45 cpet: Nope, qmail, as previously discussed. 06:44:10 no I mean thats an option qmail has remained 1.03 for years now 06:46:40 I know quite well. I maintain a fork of qmail. 06:47:17 my upstream, schmonz' notqmail, is probably not aware of this specific failure mode. 06:49:35 I just use opensmtpd or sendmail I used qmail for a while and exim but I like opensmtpd pf like syntax 06:50:04 not sure I trust a software that hasnt had a release since 1998 or an updated version since 2017 06:50:22 but any who :) 06:52:56 hehe 06:53:05 yeah 06:53:13 qmail has unfixed vulns 06:53:27 which my fork, Nightmare Mail, intends to fix as much as possible 06:54:16 reminds me of sendmail with all the vuln the remake and yet more vulns 06:54:17 heh 06:54:27 but it's included and works 06:55:01 ye 06:59:17 I think we've restored service. Still not out of the woods, as I have tcpserver smtpd running attached to a terminal, rather than my svscan, but that'll be fine. 07:03:40 LXGHTNXNG: did you name nightmare email after corresponding xkcd? 07:03:50 mictty: probably not. 07:04:02 I named it after the nightmare I was having trying to get it to do a thing. 07:04:28 your nightmare, my disaster 07:04:44 :D 07:05:48 qmail presentation videos on YouTube does not show actual interaction 07:06:20 just a sequence of slides. Clueless to watch for beginners 07:07:20 heck. 07:09:51 i think we have restored service. one thing that happened is the logger service broke in an arcane way. 07:10:20 i can't say whether that is the cause. Bercotware is bizarre. 07:10:34 qmail was nice in its day but it wasnt in my opinion after every modern opotion was a 3rd party patch so I moved onto postfix 07:11:46 now I just use opensmtpd or sendmail just so people ask me "why" 07:13:39 cpet, Why do you still not use Postfix? 07:16:13 I find opensmtpd config easier 07:17:20 usr/ports/mail/opensmtpd 07:20:13 cpet: got you (: 07:20:17 http://unix.beer/~chris/smtpd.conf 07:20:35 nothing fancy but it works and makes the free services happy 07:21:11 Should I write my own smtpserver in Tcl? 07:21:28 think theres already one 07:22:06 does opensmtpd imply no imap? 07:22:21 find . -name Makefile |xargs grep TCL 07:22:37 /exmh2/Makefile:TCLSH= tclsh8.0jp 07:22:50 mictty, I use mbox and old school mail to read my emails 07:23:00 you can use dovecot and do its magic but bleh 07:23:49 exmh is a TCL/TK based interface to the MH mail system 07:23:54 cpet, unix.beer URL is showing connection timeout. I will take your word of configuration being simpler. (postfix was ok too IMO. Anyway) 07:23:57 ok so maybe not a server but its in tcl 07:24:14 look at the config 07:24:33 match from any for domain "drink.unix.beer" action "local" 07:24:42 unix.beer doesnt serve mail 07:25:10 unix.beer is hosted on icloud drink is local 07:25:23 cpet, I was trying to access http://unix.beer/~chris/smtpd.conf that you posted earlier 07:26:24 im sure you made apache unhappy 07:26:44 (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ 07:27:12 does your ip start with 119 14 195 34 45 93 ? 07:27:54 what is that beer? is this another stallman reference? 07:28:20 i drink a lot of beer while im using unix 07:28:22 so unix beer 07:29:15 parv, try again if you dont want to tell me which ip yours starts with 07:29:16 cpet: your blog, based. 07:29:35 its a personal site 07:29:40 cpet: is that bytes of an ipv6 addr{ 07:30:15 no those are files apache creates when you connect more than 2 times 07:30:49 ap24-mod_evasive-1.10.1_2 07:31:40 Hello 07:31:56 I'm trying to build packages using poudriere with libressl, but some ports are not building 07:31:57 hi 07:32:12 yeap that is normal 07:32:16 hehe I know 07:32:22 cpet, I am aware of only the IPv4 address pattern; above does not look like mine. Tried again, same error as before. Oh well 07:32:47 how do I set the ports that dont build to use a different ssl? 07:32:53 do you use chrome or firefox ? 07:32:58 think it defaults to https 07:33:25 Gud, once upon a time you could do that with portmaster and I think you can do that with poudriere 07:33:28 different source? 07:33:35 but I do not know how as I dont really compile ports any more 07:34:20 e o e 07:34:49 cpet: you can, but I forgot the specific options to set 07:35:28 mictty: No; you can use dovecot. I use dovecot with my qmail, where i want imap. 07:35:59 i bet it's the 62.x 07:36:05 cpet, I see that you that the URL is devoid of "s" in "https" *ugh*; will try that way (in Firefox) 07:36:44 one day ill setup letsencrypt 07:36:51 but as of now its not needed 07:37:24 LXGHTNXNG: I need to learn more about general notion. but I will keep the combination in mind. Thanks. 07:37:29 it uses ipfw with a whitelist on my IP and blacklistd with rather anal setup 07:37:39 as its a personal site so as long as I can see it 07:38:56 cpet, I have/had turned of "https all the time everywhere" but Firefox still went to "https" scheme. Can see in "w3m" 07:39:16 cpet, Yea I like the syntax 07:42:10 partly why I cant stand nginx 07:42:17 confuses the hell out of me 07:42:18 :) 07:58:39 cpet: i thought you died 08:01:08 again? 08:01:36 ketas: ¿_¿ 08:06:14 i was active duty for 3 years then i was deployed then x y z happened 08:06:20 ketas, ^ 08:11:27 duty? 08:11:39 cpet: but they never buried you so you were able to recover? 08:12:36 I guess 08:12:53 why makes to bury a solder? 08:12:59 *what 08:13:57 I dont know 08:14:18 im just here wondering why bhyve fails to load a freebsd vm 08:15:35 cpet: to forcefully encourage to use jail? 08:16:40 aparently bios is weird with zfs creating a bootpool that freebsd-update cant find 08:16:43 cpet: I wish I get some vacation to work on what you are doing 08:16:45 a reinstall fixed it 08:16:50 cpet: is there any output anywhere 08:17:08 unable to determine kernel 08:17:19 fixed reinstalling using BIOS+UEFI 08:17:25 ah 08:18:13 dont get the script though 08:19:59 https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/tree/usr.sbin/bsdinstall/scripts/zfsboot?h=releng/13.1 08:20:00 Title: zfsboot « scripts « bsdinstall « usr.sbin - src - FreeBSD source tree 08:28:17 https://pastebin.com/9bp6UXPZ 08:28:18 Title: BOOTFILE=`sysctl -n kern.bootfile` KERNELDIR=${BOOTFILE%/kernel} if ! [ -d $ - Pastebin.com 08:28:24 seems to break there 08:38:02 cpet: why you only had gf for 3y 08:42:05 ketas: can you stop asking random strangers on the internet about their sexual lives? 08:42:18 My useful idiots had to put you on their killfile because of this same behavior you are exhibiting today. 08:42:58 bleh its IRC not twitter 08:42:59 no i can't 08:43:19 it is irc, and twitter is dying, cpet 08:43:24 good 08:43:26 but that doesn't make what ketas is doing any less shit. 08:43:37 cpet is not really stranger 08:43:39 ive known ketas for a long time so 08:43:58 you hadn't know my useful idiots for a very long time when you asked them comparable questions. 08:44:01 plonk. 08:44:03 useful idiots? 08:44:07 killfile? 08:44:25 think hes creating a hit list for you ketas 08:44:40 do you know what a killfile is? 08:45:01 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kill_file 08:45:02 Title: Kill file - Wikipedia 08:45:07 hahaha LXGHTNXNG 08:45:16 cpet 08:45:42 easier to just /ignore ketas 08:45:53 reason being weird 08:45:55 ? 08:46:21 random ignores 08:46:32 guys, just stop it. 08:46:42 but you can do it 08:46:56 see perfect example 08:47:30 i have done, cpet. this conversation is being unnecessarily prolonged by other parties 08:47:55 i don't even know LXGHTNXNG 08:49:01 neither do I but aparaently he doesnt like you asking about my gf 08:49:10 but any who 08:49:28 wasnt there a shell that you could allow or disallow cmds ? 08:49:33 or was that rush? 08:49:40 i've seen a couple of restricted shells in my time 08:50:03 there was one that each cmd you typed it could echo out a msg 08:50:08 but I forget the name 08:50:19 all were vulnerable? 08:50:21 :) 08:50:35 probably 08:51:05 find . -type f -name pkg-descr -exec /bin/cat {} \; 08:51:07 i would do openssh force cmd intead maybe 08:51:11 doesnt really show any 08:52:29 think fish did something like that 08:54:57 good evning, my vm ive updated to 11.4-release and ssh has broken somewhere along the line, sshd should I say. get what looks like a version conflict. says something elf.so error compat20 in conf file. 08:56:01 can you give us the full and precise text of the error return? 08:56:06 ill try to capture the error 08:57:36 looks like someone failed to run freebsd-update -r upgrade more than once 09:00:14 * LXGHTNXNG sighs 09:00:31 the patronizing terminology isn't really conducive to the desired environment, is it 09:01:00 look who's talking 09:03:57 MIME is an ugly hack just fyi 09:07:42 well it works 09:07:49 ld-elf.so.1: Undefined symbol "compat20" referenced from COPY relocation in /usr/sbin/sshd 09:08:03 i just thought maybe since the filesystem filled up could be why it fell over? 09:09:12 maybe something in hw kicked the bucket and corrupted things 09:09:37 ummmmmmmm 09:09:52 hw? hardware? 09:09:59 you should always ensure you have at least 2GB free on the / and /usr filesystems before you run an upgrade 09:10:11 you will be subject to additional downtime to extract your files and start over 09:10:21 yeah absolutely, didnt remember how smal the vm was. it's no issue at all i just had it to relearn 09:10:22 it may be possible to salvage this without starting over but it won't be easy 09:10:40 just compare files 09:10:52 even harder when i cant see the console. i am having to |espeak -s 400 to read things and using script and piping tha tot espeak as well. since im blind 09:11:04 or like, do another upgrade 09:11:21 with fs free this time 09:11:25 i thought it was the sshd_config so i dropped the vanilla one in, but you mean pull one out of ports or something, the actual sshd script from /etc/rc.d? 09:11:53 what is fs free? 09:11:59 oh 09:12:03 uh 09:12:22 like ensure having free space this time 09:13:35 goodness 09:13:37 yeah that's pretty noob mistake loL 09:13:46 is it still cfdisk to expand filesystems? 09:13:52 should I write a Tcl script to parse the json into a conversational format 09:14:40 https://bz-attachments.freebsd.org/attachment.cgi?id=238049 09:14:44 my good deed for today 09:15:12 ketas: the pneny just dropped with 'fs free' ahahaha' 09:15:18 penny 09:15:28 Fudge, did you do src or bin update ? 09:15:48 11.4 is EOL so could be why as well 09:16:03 Fudge: now it's likely gpart 09:16:05 freebsd-update upgrade 09:16:23 did you install? 09:16:28 then install again 09:16:31 then 2 more times 09:16:36 yes you need to run it like 4 times 09:16:50 freebsd-update and pkg can check for missing files, can't they? 09:16:57 IDS 09:17:27 What I am saying though guys, because I am blind without ssh running it's pretty hard to work with a console when you cannot get much output 09:17:38 owww 09:17:45 so moral is, dont break it in the first place and check obvious things lol 09:18:11 hah 09:18:16 lets all run EOL software then wonder why ransomware is a thing 09:18:27 does anyone have a statically linked copy of sshd for 11.4 09:18:27 but you have console? 09:18:37 11.4 is EOL 09:18:37 like, /rescue level static 09:18:45 yes I'm aware 09:18:45 LXGHTNXNG: or dropbear? 09:18:49 :) 09:18:50 yes i have console but i couldnt see the ouput of commands 09:18:54 you can extract base.xz 09:19:05 I want to get fudge back into their system so they can continue with the upgrades 09:19:36 it's all good guys i just pulled the tarball and start over, it's just a vm. im working on my real hardware box too 09:19:55 also, re extracting base.txz - you will want to pass --exclude ./etc/ 09:20:06 well you can still recover it 09:20:25 think of it like this, if you guys turned your monitor off. what challenges would you have. you rely on the pcspkr and sending things to espeak so it reads it out. e.g whoami |espeak 09:21:00 well, my IRC client uses ncurses, so there's a nearly issue with that 09:21:01 once upon a time we had archive. 09:21:06 but I dont see it any more 09:21:09 an early. 09:21:41 there are number or reasons, accidental rm, upgraded library wrong way, lost power, that could all end up with partial system 09:21:43 actually 09:21:51 almost all of the programs I use have non-human-listenable output formats 09:22:12 this is a big problem and something I have no good solution for if I'm honest. 09:22:45 there was something in mailing list about it 09:22:54 using fbsd if blind 09:22:57 http://ftp-archive.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD-Archive/old-releases/amd64/11.4-RELEASE/base.txz 09:23:18 booting and console 09:23:25 but I think freebsd-update rollback 09:23:29 would work as well 09:24:40 does pkg work ? could just do pkg install openssh-portable 09:25:33 oh interesting 09:26:00 maybe that's the recent reference to Fenrir i was talking about earlier with someone 09:26:26 sometimes you just have to realize "I f'ed up time to format and reinstall" 09:26:27 heh 09:27:13 and I used to yell at these dumbass kids at work for not wearing eye protection 09:28:05 nah ive always had bad eyes and they got worse 09:33:49 ow 09:35:59 cpet: safety squints help when grinding? 09:36:02 :P 09:36:46 grinding ? 09:37:17 any powertool that could fling objects into you face 09:37:36 could be disk itself too 09:37:50 wheel 09:39:15 have you seen goggles with something stuck in it, imagine that being the eye 09:40:33 yeap 09:44:16 no 09:45:19 most people in the IT field probably dont even know what googles are 09:45:24 :) 09:46:44 or the obvious that plagues teenaged boys 09:47:01 im too cool to wear safety gear 09:47:31 such as the guy who asked me why dont I just use gloves when changing oil and I said saves on trash 09:48:04 one day I will understand why bugs. have to be so perfect while open and net accept patches litterily in chat 09:50:51 ketas, arent you in romania or something ? 09:52:35 eesti, I believe 09:52:57 is that code for I dont know ? 09:53:09 (estonia) 09:53:14 yes la_mettrie 09:54:44 how do you get estonia from eesti? 09:55:28 by translating the words of natural languages (estonian language -> english) 09:55:32 the two are the same word in different languages 09:56:36 lame could of just googled 09:57:01 I'm a dragon 09:57:56 how do you ssh with dragon fingers ? 09:58:08 chopsticks? 09:58:12 * LXGHTNXNG chuckles 09:58:16 I make it work (: 09:58:35 so we have gitlab github and codeberg now ? 09:58:47 those are the three main git forges now 09:59:05 hrm 10:03:32 codeperger 10:04:04 cpet: our country has different name in every language 10:04:12 i don't even know how 10:04:41 they all ended up like this 10:04:54 not even going to ask why 10:04:57 but ok 10:05:33 some historic reason why one was chosen 10:06:03 no the git forges thing 10:06:05 apparently countries aren't names 10:06:49 what are they ? 10:07:05 ¿ 10:07:15 he said nothing 10:07:38 ok 10:08:02 forgot what I was doing with bhyve 10:08:40 something pushed important data off cpet brain 10:08:54 a lot of things do that 10:11:19 ah forgot to do a vm start 11:09:11 hmm is this normal after a freebsd-update? "The following files are affected by updates. No changes have been downloaded, however, because the files have been modified locally: /var/db/etcupdate/log" 13:01:49 Hey FreeBSD on ARM users, when I run FreeBSD aarch64 on a hypervisor, I see that the guest (FreeBSD) is using at least 100% CPU, while the system itself is idle (according to top). anyone has seen this before? I assume it a ticker/timer issue, but no idea how to fix it 14:26:50 so, yesterday I was talking about my monitor going into a power saving mode after I load i915kms 14:27:15 can someone please tell me why this keeps happening? 14:28:51 "pciconf -lv" gives me this info: 14:29:09 vgapci0@pci0:0:2:0: class=0x030000 rev=0x05 hdr=0x00 vendor=0x8086 device=0x9bc5 14:29:11 subvendor=0x1043 subdevice=0x8694 14:29:23 and this info: 14:29:36 device = 'CometLake-S GT2 [UHD Graphics 630]' 14:30:18 so, after I load i915kms, my system never crashes, but the monitor always goes into the power saving mode. 14:30:46 so, after this happens, I am able to access the computer through ssh 14:31:12 and the output from "kldstat -v" shows that i915kms is loaded. 14:34:18 yesterday, someone suggested to me to look at the logs produced by syslogd to try to figure out what causes this problem, but I still don't know how to use syslogd 14:34:31 your pf is different from openbsd's i hear. can you guys block mac addresses with it? 14:34:41 asking for a friend. 14:38:21 lavaball not according to the manual. AFAIK even OpenBSD's pf can't do that. besides, anyone can change their MAC address, right? :-) 14:38:42 everyone can change their ip on a local network as well. 14:38:52 and mac in the open world doesn't make sense anwyay. 14:39:10 i'm just disappointed that pf isn't into it. i had no problem on either tables to do it. 14:39:41 lavaball you can, however, divert the mac traffic, by create a bridge/interface with the same mac addr. it would become unusable :D 14:39:41 if i wasn't old and dumb, i tell you, i would make my own os with black jack and whores! 14:40:36 anwyay, i'm a little over half way through the pf book, so maybe there is some other way to authenticate normal people easily. 14:40:44 thanks so much for explaining. 14:43:13 seems like ipfw can match on mac 14:45:55 so, please tell me why the system doesn't crash after I load i915kms, but the monitor goes into the power-saving mode. 14:47:09 why would you expect it to crash? but no idea why it goes into power-save 14:49:11 I connected the monitor to the display port. 14:49:26 but I had the same problem when it was connected to the hdmi port 14:50:32 Oleg: Have you added your user to the video group? 14:50:50 Babaj: how is this even related to the problem? 14:51:14 Babaj: I load i915kms as root and the monitor goes into the power-saving mode. 14:51:33 If you installed the "xf86-video-intel" package then remove this. 14:51:44 I don't have it installed 14:52:37 is it possible this issue occurs because of a buggy UEFI BIOS? 14:52:39 seems more like that hardware behaves weird and needs something done more or less when the driver loads to not go into power-save for some reason 14:53:29 I didn't have this problem when I had windows 11 or ubuntu installed. 14:54:45 does that happen to if you load i915kms via kld_list in /etc/rc.conf ? 14:55:22 and what makes it mysterious is that after I load i915kms, I can still see login to the computer through ssh and can see that i915kms is loaded 14:55:47 but dmesg | grep drm doesn't show me any output related to Display Port connection 14:55:58 but kldstat -v shows that i915kms is loaded 14:56:22 Oleg: Did it work fine using the standard Vesa video driver from FreeBSD? 14:57:01 nimaje: yes, this happens if I have kld_list in rc.conf or load i915kms manually 14:57:10 Babaj: I never tried it 14:57:42 Babaj: are you talking about xf86-video-vesa driver? 14:58:32 yes 14:58:34 and what's odd is that according to freebsd docs, uhd 630 graphics gpu is supported. 14:59:07 Babaj: okay, let's install this driver and try to load it. 14:59:52 If you have installed a Xorg server, then you have this driver installed. 15:00:36 and as I said before, both windows 11 and ubuntu don't have any issues with uhd 630 graphics on my computer. 15:00:59 Delete your driver line from rc.conf and just restart the computer. 15:01:42 It's not Windows and not Ubuntu. 15:03:48 Babaj: okay, I have vesa, xorg-server, twm, and xinit installed. I should simply type "xinit" on the command line to find out whether I can load X using vesa? 15:06:37 Oleg: startx 15:07:28 vesa is supposed to work with efi and non-efi installations? 15:07:54 I have an efi installation. 15:08:21 okay, when I type "startx", I get "no screens found" 15:08:50 and xorg logs tell me this: 15:08:57 [ 2618.251] (II) VESA(0): initializing int10 15:08:58 [ 2618.252] (EE) VESA(0): V_BIOS address 0x0 out of range 15:11:40 is it possible this is a motherboard-related issue? 15:12:00