I told X11 via config file to use my old gpu (fbsd has no drivers for the new one yet) – and it kinda does – but I'm not getting full resolution (neither on the KMS TTYs, nor in X11) and glxinfo says there's no acceleration. Is there some way to make FreeBSD *completely* ignore the first gpu?

driver kernel module, including fw ones are loaded as per kldstat and Xorg.0.log explicitly mentions the identifier I set for the card when associating it to a BusID – so I'm reasonably sure that's not the issue.

Ah, additionally, the first GPU stops updating its image as soon as the driver module for the older GPU is loaded – also implying that that kinda-sorta goes right.

got it fixed! the file in xorg.conf.d also has to specify `Driver "modesetting"` and `Option "kmsdev" "/dev/dri/"`

i have a package that fails installing because it claims a user already exists but then disappears during installation – which isn't the case. how do i find out which package is pulling that first package in as dependency?

the failed install also leaves an entry for that user in /etc/passwd

i just manually went through all 60+ ports listed as reverse dependencies on freshports, i removed the two thingsi had that actually depended on it, but I'm still getting that thing pulled in by pkg upgrade :F

is there some sorta "nuke this package until it stops twitching" option for pkg?

arrrgh. damn case sensitivity. FreeCAD, not freecad – that's what kept pulling in mpich which is what kept pulling in slurm-wlm… /o\

hm, when I want to know why something isn't removed by autoremove I try pkg remove -n <name> to figure out what still depends on it

SONOVA – something pulled the damn package in after ~50 packages again >__<

nimaje: I've never really trusted (and thus done) autoremove – how does it know what's to open hunting season on?

okay, fuck it, autoremove it is. obviously wants to remove a whole bunch of things i actually want. but i guess i can always reinstall later and this is costing me entirely too many nerves.

okay, that *seems* to have removed the implicit dependency on mpich/slurm. let's hope it won't have to recalculate deps in the middle or something…^^

packages have a automatic flag (installed as a dependency), autoremove will remove all packages that are automatically installed and aren't needed by non-automatic packages (recursive dependencies), see pkg query -e '%a = 0' %o use pkg set to change the automatic flag, autoremove supports --dry-run (-n) too and first lists what it would do and asks if it should continue, so it is safe to

use even if it would remove stuff you want to keep, as long as you don't just answer y on reflex or something like that

nimaje: ah, so it will not remove anything that was explicitly thrown int pkg install?

so if something gets remove, let it be removed and if i really want it (like a lib for development stuff) install it explicitly and autoremove won't touch it again?

yes, or see that it wants to remove stuff you want to keep, abort the autoremove and use pkg set to mark the package as non-automatic

nimaje: oh, kinda forgot pkg set is a thing. i think i only needed it for a rename once. i assume you're talking about `pkg set -v 1 <somepackage>`?

no --automatic (-A)

nimaje: ah. thanks. :)

oh no, can't tmux back into the upgrade because Shared object "libevent-2.1.so.6" not found, required by "tmux" :'D

tho i guess that's a problem that will literally fix itself :')

and it already did \o/

Title: BSD Now 475: Prompt Injection Attacks

Hi, I'm face of this bug : openzfs/zfs #13974 : how can I do something to help solv ?

Title: FreeBSD 13+ : NFS access of snapshot returns stale file handle; server zfs commands hang · Issue #13974 · openzfs/zfs · GitHub

13974 – [UPDATE] ports/databases/gnats bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13974

I wonder... what if a bugzilla had "#...." in the title.

probably it would react to that, there is a problem report about that bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=264662

Title: 264662 – VimDiesel sometimes wrongly listens and replies to itself

And talks about himself in third person

G'morning. I am pulling my hair out with something that should be simple. I'm trying to get apache24 httpd to talk to php-fpm in a jail. I haven't set up Apache in a couple of years, and it was with mod_php before rather than fcgi..

I have apache serving static files, but I've had no luck with SetHandler or ProxyPassMatch. I can serve static files, but PHP is sent as source. Can someone point me to a reasonable tutorial?

gh00p, docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/network-servers/#network-apache

Title: Chapter 30. Network Servers | FreeBSD Documentation Portal

Prolly a good place to start if you scroll own a bit.

Find the mod_php section.

CrtxReavr, ya, I looked at that, but I feel like it's the connection to php-fpm which is the problem. Should I just punt and go back to mod_php?

mod_php is all I've ever used with Apache, but the things I've done have been fairly rudamentary.

Mostly just tweaking things 'til a phpinfo(); call looks right, then turn it over to application devs/owners.

hi, can anyone recommend a small web (not ssl) server to run just poudriere with? i already have nginx set up well with nextcloud, i'd like a totally different one on another port

I'm hoping to run drupal. I'm feeling a bit useless, I already gave up on switching to nginx. :(

gh00p: id guess drupal prob best on nginx for raw horsepower, apache is flabby but it's better known, is my impression

The Drupal web site says that apache is the best documented within the Drupal project, but it looks like anything that can talk to php-fpm should work.

think might have answered my q re poudriere :D github.com/jj1bdx/poudriere_elixir_web

Title: GitHub - jj1bdx/poudriere_elixir_web: Web server for viewing Poudriere results

now to build elixir. never used it before

Any good at troubleshoot network performance at 10 Gig? I have a Dell 730xd -- Dual Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2666 v3 @ 2.90GHz with an Intel X520 Card (Intel(R) 2P X520/2P I350 rNDC). I can only get about 7.9Gigabit. With another box with an older i7 and a Chelsio card I get the full 9.88

Testing with iperf3

But results are about the same with file transfers

Oh, just set hw.ix.max_interrupt_rate to 0 (had been trying 5000), and Now I get much better closer to 9.6Gigabit

It's not super stable in speed, though. And the other server with he Chelsio card is.

FWIW the box with the Chelsio card is Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3930K CPU @ 3.20GHz and The Chelsio T520-SO-CR (I know the SO is not as good)

A consumer mobo (Asus Sabrtooth X79

)

FWIW: hw.ix.enable_aim: 0 on the Dell

JUmbo Frames is at 9000 for both systems

(And the receiving system)

hey there - I'm moving from Debian to FreeBSD, and I can't figure out where Changelogs for packages installed via `pkg` are located. In Debian, each package has /usr/share/doc/$package/changelog.gz ; is there such a thing in FreeBSD?

a lot seems to be in /usr/local/share/doc, sometimes as the NEWS file, but i don't see that in all packages

yes, scoobybejesus, not all packages ; I just updated doas & I wanted to see what changes had been committed between versions

i thought `pkg info -D <pkg>` listed the last set of comments on that, but it's actually not behaving for me right now

veg, Just to show you are not alone I am similarly trying to learn things like this too.

scoobybejesus, The pkg info -D shows what is more similar to Debian's NEWS files than a changelog. It's what the package maintainer thinks you might need to know.

veg, I don't know, I am just a newbie here too, but since FreeBSD keeps things cohesive I think you can find what you need in the git version control history.

For example for hexchat (which other people often use, not me) one can look at the changes that happen through the git log.

This is available online with the cgit web UI cgit.freebsd.org/ports/log/irc/hexchat

Title: ports - FreeBSD ports tree

In single user how do I re-mount as readonly zfs filesystem as read-write?

mount -urw /

Ah, the u

In NetBSD I used to just mount -rw

I thought.

Thanks!

I don't know about the other BSDs, but in FreeBSD, -u will toggle read-only mounts into read-write without anything else.

Cool

Still trying to figure out this Intel x520 tuning.

( man.netbsd.org/mount.8 has -u too, and it does the same thing man.freebsd.org/mount(8) )

Title: mount(8) - NetBSD Manual Pages

Any idea why I would get the Newer FreeBSD version message (- package: 1301000 - running kernel: 1300139 ) in my jails even though the host and the jails have both been updated to 13.1-RELEASE-p2 and that shows up on freebsd-kersion -kru on the host and -ru on the jails ?

meena: thx

(the error when doing pkg upgrade)

Does freebsd play ok with pipewire?

icarious: the freebsd pipewire port/package looks well maintained: freshports.org/multimedia/pipewire

Title: FreshPorts -- multimedia/pipewire: Server and user space API to deal with multimedia pipelines

koobs : thank you so much mate

pleasure

aussie?

Indian . lol. don't hate me

why would i hate you?

:]

Oh no you won't. Its just people find Asians to be sticky and clingy. So

dont hear many indians (except aussie indians) saying 'mate' :)

Well. that apart. I am actually a long term Linux user 2002- ... ongoing trying to "move" to FreeBSD now and have a lot of questions

icarious: youll be unlikely to find/heard/see that in our community

Ah ya. I know. I just consider myself a "global" citizen and adapt the best/ funny/ slang of every civilization

well, youre in the right place (unless you like discord, twitter, et al) in which case discord.gg/freebsd and @freebsdhelp

icarious: ^

Right on man. Well I will stick to IRC/ libera for now

but peeps are welcome anywhere they find us

roger that

I mean, I will avoid the RTFM / noob stuff and ask only when I have a significant query. I am actually planning to start with a "One whole month on FreeBSD without linux) and take notes of my opsec / use cases before I decide to make a move

I am so frustrated with the "handholding automatic" of udev / systemd / polkit and unix deviation of linux  now

icarious: we only expect peeps respect each others time and energy

I know. I love that

we dont really 'rtfm' (less and less recently) but we do like to help people help themselves

Whats your first goal/definition of success?

And what do you need to check/tick to get there?

Urmm. Actually I have a very complex workflow. I am a Gentoo user who uses Full Disk Encryption and I use full wayland with swaywm without xwayland. That is my utmost priority right now. My hardware is relatively new. An AMD Zen 2 Processor with Renoir Graphics and Intel iwlwifi (AX200) wifi card

lovely

So just to provide some yardsticks for you

Youll find if you dont know already Gentoo's portage (based on freebsd ports) to be similar in usage (USE flags, ours are called OPTIONS)

We have a couple/few FDE options (not just one)

Wayland support is pretty good, but not 'entirely and seamlessly integrated'

Ya I know that Gentoo's portage is based off of FreeBSD's port system. I just want some of the specialized stuff that I use work. For instance wayland + swaywm and my hardware. The rest I can "adapt" .. The FDE part I do absolutely love how freebsd handles FDE with ZFS

For iwlwifi, there's a brand new branch, in depevelopment, but much of the way there: wiki.freebsd.org/action/info/WiFi/Iwlwifi

"Wayland support is pretty good, but not 'entirely and seamlessly integrated'" . Its ok. I know its very new. As long as most of what I use works

Title: WiFi/Iwlwifi - FreeBSD Wiki

you'll want to run 13/stable at least, but probably CURRENT if you want bleeding edge

Dont be concerned about running a development version

but youll want to prime yourself for that with: people.freebsd.org/~rodrigc/doc/handbook/current-stable.html

Title: 24.4.�Tracking a Development Branch

running CURRENT will probably go the same for latest amd chipset support

Ya I will run 14 I guess so that my hardware gets supported. But mostly I am a very LTS / Stable user so I will shift to that over time

via drm-kmod port/package

upstream is here: github.com/freebsd/drm-kmod

Title: GitHub - freebsd/drm-kmod: drm driver for FreeBSD

anyother questions or pointers, just holler

koobs : sure man. You are lovely in your patience and starters. Might add you  up sometime

And since youre desktop/wayland oriented, we have a dedicated channel #freebsd-desktop

And on discord too

you probably already found this: freshports.org/x11-wm/sway

Title: FreshPorts -- x11-wm/sway: i3-compatible Wayland compositor

but there's a devel version too: freshports.org/x11-wm/sway-devel

Title: FreshPorts -- x11-wm/sway-devel: i3-compatible Wayland compositor (development snapshot)

koobs : thanks. I will join the channel

roger

wayland is pretty much ok, using it for long time

angry_vincent: yah, im just cognizant that our docs/notes/statushowto's for it havent been broght together for easy consumption,

and i dont know what the new fresh eyes onboarding ux is like for it

honestly, i never followed it. i set wayland before doc even was an option by trial and error

yeh, thats kinda what i mean :)