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neirac
when
downloads.omnios.org/media/bloody gets rebuild? my miniroot just fails on pci symbols, so I thought I better wait for the ones in here
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andyf
That sounds like you're missing
omniosorg/kayak fadaf6e which is a couple of months old. Are your repos all up to date? There will be a new bloody release and media sometime today, which will have the vioscsi driver.
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andyf
Bloody is usually updated weekly, and media every few weeks depending on what's changing
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sjorge
Hmm latest r151046 seems to now hang crash on linode with
imgur.com/nwtEHS5
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sjorge
andyf it's only a 1G memory system though, so maybe one of the recent changes is causing issues but I would not expect hat withint a release to happen
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sjorge
interesting, booting an older BE doesn't help either
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sjorge
the smb stuff in the stack are weird though
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sjorge
I haven't been able getting a succesful boot
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sjorge
while I have 2 other VMs running on the n release
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sjorge
Anybody know an illumos friendly EU hosting provider that does not cost an arm and a leg per month?
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sjorge
Linode was great for the last 3ish years but seems there new hypervisors don't boot illumos anymore
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sjorge
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sjorge
Which hasn't been changed for 19 years
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sjorge
That would also explain why I am hitting it on all versions I have going back
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sjorge
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sjorge
Looks like it got booted on a newer hypervisor
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ptribble
I've had some success with Digital Ocean
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ptribble
Tribblix is currently hosted on AWS
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ptribble
The costs for the instance and storage are actually the same, but AWS charges a fortune for bandwidth whereas DO gives you a good inclusive allowance
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sjorge
I never got omniops to work on DO when I tried
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sjorge
had a look at hetzner as some collegues use that for there linu stuff and they seem happy
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sjorge
But can't get omnios to boot either
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sjorge
Well I tried dd the cloud.raw and bhyve images via the resqueue system
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sjorge
But no luck
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sjorge
Ideally I'd like to get linode to boot again though, pretty happy with them
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sjorge
It's probably the disk type on hetzner tbh
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sjorge
I'll check what it is in the rescue image
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sjorge
Yeah vioscsi
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andyf
sjorge - that seems unfortunate, the new hyperisor.
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sjorge
Yeah, luckily my mail server is still up that DC is schedule to be update next months
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andyf
I wonder what they've done that triggers this for you (although 1G is really minimal with ZFS)
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sjorge
some maintanance
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sjorge
in the Dc it was hosted
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sjorge
So I assume they rebooted the old hypervisor and it brought the VM up on a newer node
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sjorge
1G has been a bit tight but but working pretty well for my tiny work loads
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sjorge
I looked around but there is no tunable to it seems to try and change the bahvior to try and allocate less
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sjorge
At least not that I found
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sjorge
andyf do is there a raw image somewhere that has the vioscsi driver installed (and boots over graphics console)
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sjorge
No serial on hetzner
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sjorge
but there is a VNC based kvm
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andyf
No. The next raw image will have vioscsi, but all of them use the serial console.
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andyf
I think you can get to loader early via VGA and reconfigure it though
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sjorge
I only saw the BTX line but nothing after that one... one of the cloiud images
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sjorge
Do the bloody images have vioscsi ?
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sjorge
I could grab one of those too I guess
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andyf
The bloody cloud images have vioscsi, yes, the installer does not yet.
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andyf
but you don't need the installer if you use cloud images
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sjorge
OK let me try with that one
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sjorge
it might not show more than the BTX line because loader can't load it's confiog
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sjorge
Let's see what omnios-bloody-20240215.cloud.raw.zst does
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sjorge
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sjorge
Just this and nothing
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sjorge
andyf do you think the 1G is the issue, I could bump it to 2G for 2x the price I pay now
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sjorge
But I can never shrink it if that was not the problem
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andyf
Yes, I think it probably is. It seems pretty clear that it can't allocate enough kernel memory. What would be interesting is why it either need to allocate more than it used to, or why there is less available now. Either could be true based on the hypervisor or SMBIOS data or whatever.
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sjorge
Let's try that I guess
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ptribble
It looks to me that we're getting nonsense out of smbios
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sjorge
Worse case it's one month of extra billing as if it doesn't work I'll probably delete it once I do find a place to run.
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ptribble
Can you exclude the smbios kernel module?
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sjorge
It's still resizing to 2G linode vm, can take up to 1h :|
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sjorge
But I do have loader access so I think I could probably disable that
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andyf
Dropping to the 'ok ' prompt and typing 'boot -B disable-smbios=true' is worth a try
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sjorge
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sjorge
will try with boot -B disable-smbios=true
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sjorge
OK now I can't catch the loader prompt as it's gone to fast -_-
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sjorge
probably because this image also adds an extravcpu
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sjorge
Same with smbios disable
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nwilkens
sjorge:
spearhead.cloud is a Triton public cloud provider in Romania. I'm not sure about pricing, but at least they are illumos friendly!
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sjorge
Interesting, adding it on the list of to check out
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andyf
If you need an image that drops to the debugger by default, I can build one.
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sjorge
Ooh pricing is nearly 4x of what I pay now on linunode for spearhead
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sjorge
That's a bit much
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sjorge
At that point phrotonmail + a tiny freebsd VM makes more sense
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sjorge
@andyf I'm booting from disk on linode
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sjorge
But when I can beat the boot to loader, I tried kmdb
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sjorge
But it never get's there
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sjorge
It hits the issues super early in boot I think
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sjorge
Hmmm seems proton mail is cheaper than I though, I'll have to seriously consider that option
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sjorge
It would save me some pain
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andyf
You can try -B kbm_debug=1 for more early output too.
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sjorge
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sjorge
Seems i can get freebsd to install on hetzner... I guess I'll rebuild on that so my site is back up today and then figure out if the linode one is salvagble
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antranigv
Hey all; we did the following: zfs snap -r rpool/zones/zone0@ready; zfs send rpool/zones/zone0@ready | zfs recv rpool/zones/zone1 ; zonecfg -z zone0 export -f zone1.cfg ; (modify zone1.cfg) ; zonecfg -z zone1 -f zone1.cfg; zoneadm -z zone1 attach -F;
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antranigv
at this point we can boot zone1, however, the IP address is not set...
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antranigv
in zone0 there was zone0/_a address. I assumed there would be also zone1/_a in zone1, but there's not
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antranigv
any thoughts?
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antranigv
okay... we just needed to change the IP interface name in /etc/ipadm/ipadm.conf in zone1
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neirac
antranigv ah the cloning the zone took all the data to the new zone but it did not repect the allowed-address as ipadm.conf had 'invalid' config?
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antranigv
neirac yes. just needed to sed the ipadm.conf file in the new zone.
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antranigv
I don't understand why the zone with allowed-address needs an ipadm.conf file anyway.
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rmustacc
So the two concepts are kind of independent.
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rmustacc
allowed-addresses is about saying from outside the zone what's allowed or not to come from that zone's netstack.
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clapont
sjorge, nwilkens: I had bad experiences with Spearhead staff. and I tried twice, few years between tries, thinking that maybe it was me...
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rmustacc
It has nothing to do with what addresses are used inside the zone.
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rmustacc
In general manually editing ipadm.conf is fraught and not intended to be used with sed.
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rmustacc
But basically that is a record of what IP interfaces and properties should exist.
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rmustacc
So that's always something that exists on a per-zone basis as the two ipmgmtd instances are independent effectively (it's a bit more nuanced, but it's better to think of it that way).
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rmustacc
If you think of the zone as an independent host logically, it makes sense that it'd have to have its own networking configuration.
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rmustacc
The allowed-addresses really is just a way of providing an ACL of what addresses the zone can send traffic out with.
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antranigv
rmustacc got it
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antranigv
rmustacc I still have to think about the best way to do a deep copy "zfs send/recv" of a zone, either on same host or another
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antranigv
in our case we wanted to create ldap1 from ldap0, where ldap0 is the current prod, but ldap1 should be our testing.
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antranigv
Another question raised while we were testing things... zadm snapshot/rollback
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antranigv
We got an error saying "WARNING: rollback is not supported on BE-aware brands."
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antranigv
So I thought hey, I'll use beadm from inside the zone... I guess?
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antranigv
I need to figure that out
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antranigv
basically I need to zadm shutdown ldap1, rollback to a be named ready, and then continue
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antranigv
continue == zadm boot ldap1; destroy things again by testing LDAP :P
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tomww
antranigv: what about: zfs snapshot of filesystem ldap0, then zfs clone to ldap1 and adjurst paths eventually. costs are near zero.
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antranigv
tomww as a matter of fact, the `zoneadm -z ldap1 clone ldap0` command does that automatically and work flawlessly. I was worried that we might "promote" ldap1 to production if this large changed worked fine, so I really wanted a deep copy.
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neirac
this prtconf -D output means the driver is attached or not ? pci108e,8 (driver name: vioscsi)
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neirac
because I see also pci108e,1, instance #0 (driver name: vioif) , and vioif I do see in modinfo output
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rmustacc
That generally means it's attached.
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sjorge
Good thing most of my ‘can get it to work on illumos’ VMs are home are freebsd, website back but on freebsd
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sjorge
Should be cheaper too starting next month
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sjorge
Now i need to figure out ehat to do for email before thst vm bites the dust
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antranigv
sjorge what website is this? :)
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sjorge
Just my personal ones
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sjorge
A rarely used blog :|, travel pictures, my map software I use for my dnd games, ...
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neirac
prtconf -d says this pci108e,8 (pci1af4,1004) [Red Hat, Inc. Virtio SCSI] (driver not attached) ; I don't see any message about why the driver did not attached