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ENOMAD
We're about to order a new fileserver that will run OmniOS. The vendor is proposing a host based on AMD EPYC 9135 Processor 16-core 3.65GHz 64MB Cache (200W). Near as I can tell that's fine. Am I missing any critical gotchas?
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AmyMalik
How much RAM?
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nomad
They're suggesting 12x32GB. That's spendy so I'm suggesting 6x32GB instead, with growth after prices go down should they ever do so.
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AmyMalik
The main gotchas I'd expect are potential CPU gotchas, though I must admit I'm not very familiar with newer hardware.
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ENOMAD
Neither am I. I gave up trying to keep track of all the variations and varieties years ago.
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AmyMalik
If it's not proprietary information: your previous fileserver, serving how many clients?, has how much RAM? and which CPU or CPUs (if more than one) does it use?
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ENOMAD
That's not really the question here. I just need to know if this CPU will run OmniOS well.
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ENOMAD
All of our existing servers are Intel based, and also several years old, so they're not really in the picture for this new server.
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ENOMAD
I need to go for now. I'll check back in the morning (my time) to see if any red flags have been raised. I appreciate any information that can be provided about the issue.
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jclulow
ENOMAD: We're using a lot of EPYC CPUs at Oxide, FWIW. I don't know about that one in particular, but we're pretty committed to making any modern AMD CPU work, so let us know if you have trouble.
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szilard
Despite all my persuasion to convince my friend not to buy a used IBM x3550 M2 server, he did. Now he thinking about installing OmniOS on it. As this is an old hw, I assume there won't be much trouble to get OmniOS working on it, but I never messed with real server grade hw. Is there anything we should watch out for?
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AmyMalik
Persuade him to get hearing protection.
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szilard
He said he have a room extra for the loud equipment.
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AmyMalik
And sometimes he will need to work in that room.
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AmyMalik
I'm serious. I have the M5 generation of the same line of servers (sold by Lenovo), and before I decomm'd it, it was unbearably loud. Even at a good distance. Shut behind a door, it was bearable - just.
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AmyMalik
For what was probably years I cooked, chatted on Discord, brushed my teeth and merried my useless life away to that "music". Nobody ever noticed it on the voice calls, but I don't think my hearing will ever completely recover.
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AmyMalik
I didn't believe the people who told me the same thing. And then it happened to me.
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szilard
I told the same to him, still he bought it.
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AmyMalik
OmniOS will probably be fine.
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AmyMalik
If he wears hearing protection any time he goes into the server room.
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szilard
Thanks for the hint.
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danmcd
@nomad -> Your bigger problem will be NICs and devices. What NICs are on that thing's mobo?
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danmcd
Or is it all cards? If its all cards, your desired line-speed will influence which card(s) you pick.
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ENOMAD
thanks jclulow
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ENOMAD
danmcd, Broadcom NetXtreme 25-Gigabit Ethernet Network Adapter P225P - PCIe 3.0 x8 - 2x SFP28 will be the production NICs.
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ENOMAD
the quote doesn't say the model of the 10G NICs but we'll only be using that to image the host to start (if even for that).
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gitomat
[illumos-gate] 17827 Update libsff values -- Jason King <jason.brian.king⊙gc>
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danmcd
ENOMAD: Ick. Broadcom (bnxt) isn't supported yet. THere's been mutterings of doing it
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danmcd
I'm assuming those 25Gbits are on the mobo?
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ENOMAD
no, they're an added card. The mobo has unidentified 10G NICs.
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danmcd
What does `prtconf -d` have to say?
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ENOMAD
we don't have the hardware yet
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ENOMAD
they're putting the quote together now.
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danmcd
Any pages you can point me at?
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danmcd
If you're capped at 25Gbit that's good to know: Intel XXV710 would work with i40e. And there are Mellanox and/or Chelsio ones that can dumb-down to 25Gbit even if they hit 100.
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danmcd
(mlxcx and cxgbe respectively)
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ENOMAD
We have a Juniper switch with 100GB ports. I'm trying to split one of those into multiple NICs so I don't have to do things with VLANs to the host itself.
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ENOMAD
the idea is to have multiple NICs on the host talking with the single NIC on the switch.
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rzezeski
danmcd: I'm in the process of building a Genoa system using the GENOAD8X-2T/BCM board. It has built-in BCM57416, so I'm hoping at some point either Robert or I can get that driver in some form of basic working order.
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danmcd
I know, but I think ENOMAD wants it ASAP.
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rzezeski
I understand. I was just putting it out there more as a heads up.
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rzezeski
No idea when/if it will happen, but I do have some motivation to make it work at this point.
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ENOMAD
thanks rzezeski. Our situation is challenged by the rapidly rising RAM & SSD prices.
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gitomat
[illumos-gate] 17767 bhyve: implement transitional virtio devices -- Andy Fiddaman <illumos⊙fn>
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gitomat
[illumos-gate] 17782 bhyve: viona network device multi-queue support -- Andy Fiddaman <illumos⊙fn>
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ENOMAD
I think we're still funding OmniOS to some extent. I don't know if that would help expedite support.
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ENOMAD
I really appreciate all the feedback and support I'm getting.
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jbk
now that the big project I've been working on at work is almost done (which itself was preempted by even bigger project), I'm hoping I can finish up the Intel E810 support soon(ish)
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danmcd
oooh, excellent.
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danmcd
I have some 800-series HW in $WORK so I might be able to help with testing and/or other things.
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jbk
cool.. we have a couple in house as well.. though not sure which variants specifically offhand (or which exist, if any)
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jbk
it's been like a year or so since I've looked at it, but I _think_ most of the remaining work was all the hoops to setup the card.. I think i got most of the TX/RX bits done (thought might be a bit left there to do as well)..
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rmustacc
The only good/bad on tx/rx on it was the data path was the same as the x710.
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rmustacc
Warts and all.
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jbk
heh yes
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jbk
and while not on the datapath, the whole context thing is awful (from a programming perspective).. thank you do doing that :)
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jbk
err for doing that
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rmustacc
Hopefully what I left you was at least a reasonable starting point.
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jbk
oh it was
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rmustacc
I have not looked at that for some time. Probably not since 2019?
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sommerfeld
on a vaguely related note has anyone looked at what it would take to get speed negotiation going in the i40e driver for the x710? Or is that a bottomless pit filled with lovecraftian horrors?
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sommerfeld
My connection to the outside world goes through one, and I've had to stick a switch in between the router and the ONT because the link doesn't stay up (possibly due to busted autonegotiation in the x710)