hrm..

even after copying libumem.so into /lib/secure, doing `LD_PRELOAD=libumem.so passwd` as a user only seems to half work -- it appears to get loaded into the processes's address space, but attaching mdb to the process loads the libumem mdb plugin, but the umem dcmds seem to think libumem isn't there..

hey all, would openindiana be the best illumos fit for a NAS/a couple vms?

also out of complete curiosity and only superficial relation, does illumos have thunderbolt suport (I just fought a complex battle trying to use it in linux to connect two things, gave up, and borrowed an ethernet adapter)

spuos, nope, OmniOS CE would be better fit for NAS if you are looking of ordinary NAS+vms boot from HDD distribution

spuos, I wouuld always recommend SmartOS more as hypervisor that can boot off the USB flash (or from the same disks with data without requiring separate boot drive(s) ) . You would like to run your NAS off from VM anyway. (HVM bhyve KVM or better Solaris zone or Linux distro in LX zone) anyway.

It's just 2 more nodes away from running your own cloud off from Triton datacenter

Think that for OmniOS one can buy support. And for Triton datacenter if you are serious for on-premises cloud. SmartOS seems most lightweight for small server.

I'd say omnios and smartos are usually your default choices, tribblix you'd know if it was what you wanted

wacki: aren't those two more like hypervisors than full OSes?

I was kinda thinking more mainframe and less hypervisor

what purpose does tribblix serve, I thought it was more for desktop use?

I would get started with OmniOS if you want a general purpose install-to-disk UNIX system

I don't believe we have any thunderbolt support to speak of

jclulow: I thought Omnios was like a jail and hypervisor platform, was I mistaken?

It can host zones, and VMs, certainly -- but you don't have to use those. It's also just a general purpose UNIX.

Things work the way you would expect: you can install packages, create groups and users, etc, and it will be there after a reboot (it's not a live/ramdisk system)

SmartOS, on the other hand, is definitely focused on being an appliance for running zones and VMs. It's a boot-from-ramdisk system, so most state (outside of zones/VMs) is gone after a reboot, etc.

If I was looking to create a new NFS/SMB server system, I would use an LTS release of OmniOS.

I see, so what is the usecase for OI/Tribblix, then? Am I mistaken there too? I thought OI was a general use OS and Tribblix was the pet project of one guy.

Tribblix is indeed essentially maintained by Peter, and it has kind of a retro thing going on. As richlowe says: if that's what you want, you'll probably know that already.

As far as I can tell people use OpenIndiana for desktop systems, but it has stability problems. I often see messages go out to their mailing list about the packages being broken. I wouldn't use it for a server system.

tbf, I *did* kind of plan on mucking around with retro software, I planned on running IKSD on it amongst other things

The only way to know for sure what will work for you is to install something and try it, ultimately.

but that said, omnios sounds like what I was looking for

Yeah I think it probably is, at least to get started.

very true, but that *is* how I ended up with some of the strangest configurations ever seen in my home network

Trial and error is an old friend, and I have had some crazy setups due to my lack of understanding in the software/hardware world

as in, not knowing what a network switch was so creating a bridged set of ethernet ports on my firewall/virtualized NAS/public FTP frankencomputer in 2021

at some point I learned that my... interesting way of making things "work" was worth running by others. Actually, my the computer that I plan on installing omniOS into probably would be an interesting "curiosity" to show off too, I'm quite proud of it.

I generally take snapshots of the OI package repo at judiciously chosen times and deploy from that.

bear witness to pasteboard.co/74qr8m6Cef8N.jpg

the leftmost one will be the target for the omnios installation

sommerfeld: Yeah I think you have to sort of ... do the release engineering for them, basically.

Also they've started making backwards incompatible changes

Which kind of rules them out as a serious contender for me, anyway haha

spuos: haha nice

jclulow: given that I'm actually running illumos-gate+local patches + OI for non illumos packages I'm doing release engineering already...

Fair!

alright, omnios installed, double checking, because I can't undo this later without killing my data, 4 disks, 2 mirrored sets of 2 disk-wide stripes, no special vdevs, only thing I really need to tune would be ashift, and I can't figure out how to find sector size in illumos, my guess was diskinfo

scratch that, all of them are 4096

I think I got this