baz, do you have siblings named foo and bar?

Is there FreeBSD AI interest group ? chat ? mail list

acu: there has been some negative feedback towards AI from FreeBSD but I'm sure some people are using it with it

rdr: and who cares ? in 1900's people have negative feedback towards cars... they liked oxes and horses... ai is not an option...there are few frameworks already in freebsd ---- I am using ollama with pi-coding-agent.... but I want to get into a proper community where we build stuff for freebsd: freshports.org/misc/ollama

but I am interested in pi-code-agent github.com/badlogic/pi-mono/tree/main

you'd have a negative reaction to cars if it cost 40x a house, couldn't travel more than a mile without breaking down

plus there's nowhere to charge the darn things.

And it runs over your dog.

Very funny additions :) The question still remains - is there a interest group about Artificial Intelligence ? I looked at BSDCan topics --- they still look like 1990's topics - all fundamental - but it seem stuck in time - tools matter big time.... ai driven agents for coding and review are a true quantum leap - if I was in the organizing comitee I would add the AI Track --- both in the handson tutorials and in the conference -- and

invite people like Yuri Victorovich (which contributed to 200 packages) and actively working on AI ports ---- yuri⊙Fo --- I think a vision and a strategy for FreeBSD is badly needed - and is not obvious

I don't realy understand what an freebsd AI grop is supossed to be? developing or using AI not realy a dependency on the OS

Hello, all. I am trying to recover from this breakage: <herrbischoff.com/2026/03/recovering-from-a-botched-freebsd-upgrade>, but I wish to learn a lesson: what did I (and the OP) do wrong? Was it failure to `pkg upgrade -f' (not mentioned in the upgrade instructions)?

ant-x: have you also tried to update from 14.0? I think you need at least freebsd 14.3 to upgrade to 15.0

satanist, I did upgrade from 14.3 to 15.0, and everything broke, including the network. The hack to symlink the missing libs from their newers versions let me save the system (I think).

have you updated to the latest point release?

Before going to 15.0?

hello

satanist, I installed the latest security paches, but did not upgrade to 14.4 .

satanist, hack-fixing pkg, and then doing `pkg upgrade -f` seems to have restored my system, but the manual did not mentioned that latter command. That is, I think, the reason why me and several other people ended up breaking their installations.

ok then I have no clue what went wrong, the article you linked I would guess the problem was trie to skip some upgrades

I just don't find what version can be updated to 15.0

satanist, does not /any/ major-version upgrade require reunning `pkg upgrade -f`?

you need to update the packages as documented for the release (i.e. freebsd.org/releases/15.0R/installation/#upgrade-binary) but -f is normaly not required

satanist, I see. The Cookbook differs: <docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/…ng-edge/#freebsdupdate-portsrebuild>, and I used that instead of the release notes.

Instead, the Cookbook requires pkg-static upgrade -f !

but -f should be redundant, because pkg should detect the abi change and update all packages

satanist, 1) I have already witnessed that it is required, while upgrading from 13 to 14.

2) even the normal `pkg upgrade' (without -f) is not mentioned in the Cookbook.

Perhaps I am repeating some blunder...

ok strange, I don't remember having this problem

Sometimes, I have the childish wish to have a FreeBSD guru by my side sometimes, but I know of no local usergroup...

you could form one yourself

Online -- yes, but a local group would be made of a single person :P

ant-x, I know exactly what you mean. Things are quite hard when you are trying to work things out solo. Much easier to have multiple people doing things together as a team. Someone to learn from. Someone to teach. Much better that way. But alas sometimes solo is the only way available.