hm, after upgrading my package builder vm to 14.4 random packages began to fail in some -depends phase, because of bad file descriptor in pkg-static :(

rwp: This is the ports unbound running on 15.0. I don't get the error when I run it manually, only via a script or via crontab

rwp: Also, you need unbound_oomprotect="YES" to trigger this

rwp: Following your advice with sh -x (great idea btw) it looks like the pid file isn't there yet, so `protect -p ${rc_pid}` evaluates to `protect -p `. Must be a race condition caused by unbound taking too long to start

are there parts of the bsd filesystem that are forbidden for users to use?

For example . . .

for many moons, when I’d set up web servers on macos, i’d put the web folder and the log folder and anything, just right at the root level of the file system. But then apple changed things so even as root, users cannot write ot the root level of the drive. So things like a web folder had to be relocated to either a specific users folder, or to /Users/Shared

everything but ~, /tmp, /var/tmp should be off limits for regular users. "system" users often have their own little place (e.g. logging). the rest can-but-most-likely-should-not be opended up by permissions

things can be changed beyond just permissions via acl

on freebsd with the right permissions you can write whereever you want, still doesn't mean it is a good idea, logs should go to /var/log or via syslog to whereever that is configured to log to (likely /var/log too)

well web server logs get processes a lot by stats systems so its good to keep them in a separate place. I’ll probably make a root level folder called “webserver” and put a log folder in there, a i don’t even remember but all the different folders i create for a web server.

ohhhhhhhh

day what you will about “heavy” desktop environments, SDDM + KDE sure does look nice

I guess debug mode and verbose mode slowed down rc.subr just enough to win the race. I turned _oomprotect off, I'll run protect after it's completed

hm, but why would you use protect with a pid file instead of with a command in the _oomprotect use case? seems the only use for that is for adding race conditions

damn i am still having trouble putting this system in 1280 x 720 resolution. macos does it no problem, but freebsd with xfce4, freebsd with kde, and ubuntu linux with kde, all can’t display 1280 by 720 properly

native 1080- is fine

any ideas whats going on with that?

ah, probably because start doesn't have to be an external command, but could be a shell function too…

hm, what does xrandr say for that monitor

it does list 1280x720 at 60

among all the others

thissssss a 2012 mac mini so intel i7 with i think intel integrade 4000 HD graphics

and if you use xrandr --output <monitor> --mode <1280x720 mode> ?

is “<monitor>” a placeholder or do you want me to literally type that?

What does "can't display properly" mean in this instance?

It's a placeholder.

You put the output name there.

Similarly so with the --mode argument

can’t display rpoperly, means i get a highly distorted image that eventually reverts back to 1080p when i don’t hit anything

Okay, but what does distorted mean? The fonts?

so how do i determine my monitor’s name?

Or something else?

It'll be in the xrandr output

like the image is interlaced and ghosted multiple times across the screen

You can also try arandr

ok my best guess is “HDMI-3” is the monitor name? seems weird though as this mini only has one hdmi port

Use a paste site, and paste the output.

i went with hdmi-3 and what i got is the same distortion as when i switch it with the GUI

except…. now its not changing back

will xrandr work over ssh i hope?

GoSox: yes, I use <…> to mark placeholders

eep, looks like i can’t change resolution over ssh and i cant read the text on the display now sooooo any ideas how i can get it back

No, it won't work over SSH without some environment hackery.

i should still be at a terminal prompt so i guess i can try to type the commad blind

yay that worked

so why is 720p not working? whats that about? its not a hardware fault, it works perfectly in macos every time

Good. Now, instead of trying th change the resolution, change the scale.

Leave it at native resolution, and just use --scale

changing the scale works but thats not quite the same result

huh actually thats not working either. It worked in xfce4 but in KDE nothing happens when i change the scale

I don't use either of those DEs, so I don't know what the problem might be, sorry.

ok ill post to the forum and go to bed

no idea what breaks there, but apple just has a very limited selection of hardware they support, so they can make sure everything works, my current guess would be that there is some bug in the monitor or something and apple incuded a workaround and noone on Xorg or wayland encountered it, because running Xorg/wayland on that hardware is already rare enought and then also switching to 720p instead

of 1080p, but of course the problem could also be anywhere else

but i HAVE had it work on bsd too… i guess i left that part out. But i’ve wiped this machine like 20 times during this learning process. Like every night i work on learning freebsd, i wipe the machien and go through my install and setup checklist. And it HAS worked.

either way, to the forum

hm maybe kms vs xf86-video-intel?

oh wow just installed a mac theme on kde aaaaadn that settles that, KDE it is, bye bye xfce4

HAH there is one problem with these mac themes. They’re so good, they put my brain in “normal mac mode”. So I close windows with no intent to quit the program, and yet i quit the program

a problem i can deal with, but its funny

the BeOS theme is interesting but not as nice as I remember

Hello. I have a problem with FreeBSD 15 and USB headset. When I plug the headset in, a very loud high noise comes out the headphone

It works on Linux and Windows just fine. I am new to FreeBSD so I am looking for someone who can help me out

helo people

can anybody help me with manually pointing to a regional freebsd pkg mirror?

i tried changing /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf but to no avail

scottpedia: that's the system config file, but you might have a local one (/usr/local/etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf or similar)

have a look in that directory

yeah Gedge I did that per instruction from that FreeBSD.conf file

the problem is what kind of url am I supposed to put in the new config?

FreeBSD 15?

14.2 i think

like ftp.kr.freebsd.org/pub/freebsd is what I want to use

but in the original file the url follows the format pkg.freebsd.org/${ABI}/quarterly

what should I add to the new file then?

'd be great if anybody can help

scottpedia: pkg.freebsd.org doesn't list that as a mirror

yeah

i found the link here people.freebsd.org/~dbaio/mirrors/mirrors-new-section.html

it kind of does have everything indeed

however how do I exactly change the repo url on my system?

doesn't look like it serves *pkg*

what servces pkg?

the link that I sent tells you what mirrors the pkg archive

ports-mgmt/fastest_pkg lists the mirrors and will print them, but also have a look at `man 5 pkg.conf`

i tried the links you sent me and it says repository freebsd has a wrong packagesite, need to re-create database

Gedge:

anyways I am trying out that package you mentioned

let's hope this works

freebsd is truly a poorly documented one compared to its Linux brothers

I'm not sure why you're not just relying on the DNS to direct you to the local mirror... the default behaviour

On the contrary, I think that between the handbook and the manpages, the documentation is quite good.

it directs me to a mirror that gives me 20KB/s max

Yeah, mirror bandwidth is very, very variable.

I couldn't find one single how-to on google regarding how to change mirrors

that shouldn't be the case for any of the living Linux distros

man 5 pkg.conf -- no google necessary

The documentation is right there on your system.

yeah I did that

And did you search for "URL"?

it doesn't tell me how to create a new config that uses the mirror that I want to use

Did you read the repository configuration and examples sections of the man page?

yes just did that

it does tell me how to do a private repository

but what is an srv repo?

the system keeps telling me that the repo i am using is wrong and not an SRV repo

srv is dns record type

It's also stated in the same man page; search for SRV

And says what the requirements for it are there.

can anybody give me a how-to regarding what I asked?

wouldn't you just change the url to the url of the mirror

or, better, copy the file into /usr/local/etc/pkg/repos/FreeBSD.conf and change *that* file with the mirror

Gedge: yes I did that and it gives error regarding "not srv mirror"

now I followed man 5 pkg.conf's example to use a private repository

and when I run pkg update it says SSL peer certificate or SSH remote key was not OK

let me try using http

okay it worked but still it'd be great if I can properly set it up using https

oddly, I think the pkg repos do not use https, but rely on GPG(?) signatures of the data once transferred?

so, encrpytion isn't important, but verification is

yes. the original config has a certain fingerprint setup

that is to be studied later

I only recently discovered this because I'm now running a local cacheing pkg mirror for my handful of FreeBSD boxes

I don't think it reduces my demand on the mirrors as much as I'd hoped.

okay alright

that'd be convenient indeed

Gedge, scottpedia: instead of copying /etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf to /usr/local/etc/pkg/FreeBSD.conf you should use that the first one gets read first and the second one can override stuff and create the second with just what you want changed, so probably just URL for a properly configured mirror

nimaje: yeah thx for speedy response

I think the issue in this case is the mirror certificates; you'll get an SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN

gonna try that later but at the moment the problem seems to be with how the system uses encryption/verification

scottpedia, It might be easier to change mirrors by overriding DNS with an entry in /etc/hosts that maps pkg.freebsd.org to whichever mirror you choose to override it.

rwp: that's a good idea

gonna try that later

thx btw

*newbie* I was following instructions for a fresh install, and reading from docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/x11 to set up the X display, and running in to issues where the instructions given don't seem to work, and generate errors... is there a 'proper' or 'more up to date' URL I should be using to set up a new FreeBSD installation?

lorimark: The Handbook is indeed where the docs should shine. But, if it fails, then the forums may be the place to see if others have had that problem. forums.freebsd.org

lorimark: what happens?

lorimark, If you say what version of FreeBSD you are running, what your graphics adaptor type is, what you have done, what problems occurred, then probably we can make suggestions.

lorimark, Run this: pciconf -lv | grep display -B 3 -A 1

thank you, it's an old acer laptop, intel generic graphics (fairly low res). I just downloaded the latest from the FreeBSD website, been using linux for years but never cracked the plastic on FreeBSD until now, so just a little choppy getting started. wanted to make sure I was reading the right docs.

it was FreeBSD 15.0

oops... i think i shouldn't have pulled that one...

ok, so you installed drm-kmod and loaded the i915kms kernel modul successfully?

nimaje: unsure about 'correctly', but i did follow along, using i915kms and all that

is 15.0 a good version to download, i think in one of my first attempts i was installing the 14.4

?

(and thank you again)

14.4-RELEASE or 15.0-RELEASE should both be fine, i would think

yes, that is a release version so it is fine

did your monitor reset when i915kms was loaded (as the graphics driver changes)? do you see [drm] Initialized i915 in dmesg? I suggest piping it into less and search for drm there

[drm] Inisitlized i915 1.6.0 for drmn0 on minor 0

name=drmn0 id=i915drmfb ...

looks like it

ok, so and how do you try to start xorg? (startx?) and what errors does it generate?

How are you starting X? I think it is easier to debug things by logging into the text vt console and then running startx and then looking in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for "EE" lines rather than trying to run an xdm graphical login manager from the start.

i have xfce installed, and it opens, and even starts with the gui login screen, where i got tripped up was on that X setup page regarding true type fonts...

in the Fonts section of that document, it has steps that don't run/complete properly, so, that's what prompted me to ask if i was reading the correct docs

If the GUI graphical login manager starts then that's X running right there. X is running at that point.

yea, it's got X and xfce4 even, so far so good.

anyway, i was just asking because it's so easy to start reading from the wrong place... i think i'm ok for the moment, thank you

hm, never did anything for fonts except for installing them

I have never messed with fonts. It Just Works.

yea, i was (tiny bit) surprised regarding having to install fonts... here's the page about it; docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/x11/#truetype

I look at that section and I don't see anything there that one would need to run. There are several optional things that one should mostly ignore. Ignore at least until you have something running and decide you want to do something different.

I have never installed the TrueType fonts. I figure that was only for people who were doing desktop publishing.

People tend to be very particular, persnickety even, about fonts. I know people who build their own fonts and insist they need them. So anything can be installed. But I have never needed them.

k

thank you

I'll just blow past all that, thank you

The Handbook should say above that section, stop here and get X running. If you feel you NEED a particular font then you can install them and here are instructions for TrueType and Type1 fonts but most people don't need them.