I didn't even know there was such a channel

I don't really want to discuss this so much as find out if anyone in the project is having project level discussions on this themselves?

it's not actually off topic and it's not really socializing

Sorry, that was responding the previous comment about not knowing about the channel. I wasn't trying to drive off your original question.

that's ok

[drm] Got Intel graphics stolen memory base 0x0, size 0x0

this seems problematic

good day #freebsd

the upgrade process for 13.5 to 14.3 is rock solid.

Thank you devs for the quality work

I probably should’ve done 13->14->15 rather than 13->15.

how was the 13 to 15?

heard /etc/zfs was missing

and the userland detection causes some issues

looking forward to the 14.4-RELEASE

!inspire

Everybody by your side ain't on your side. -Steve Harvey [zenquotes.io]

awesome my sasl configs are set - hey freebsd community

zerotime: my experience was not great. X11 is buggered and I haven’t been able tomfigure out why yet.

I’m probably going to just wipe it and start fresh tomorrow.

anth: yeah, I'd expect issues without upgrading sequentially

a fresh install will likely return better results

why is it called “amd64” and not “x86-64” like the 64 bit intel platform is usually called?

GoSox, Because the architecture was created and defined by AMD and therefore it was named amd64. Intel adopted it from AMD.

Of course Intel doesn't like to mention their competitor so Intel tries to call it something without AMD in the name. But AMD did create it and it was available on AMD hardware first. So the software out in the wild such as compilers and such named it as such and that pre-existed the x86-64 use by Intel.

i see

something must be wrong with my usb stick because suddenly it read/writes at 1 MB/sec and takes forever to make a macos or freebsd installer

Intel partnered with HP to create IA-64 the Itanium architecture as their main follow-on to IA-32 which was also known as i386 or i686. IA-64 failed in the market. Intel dropped it.

USB NAND flash storage is notoriously awful. It won't surprise anyone to tell them you have a failed one.

oh i know all about it. i’m been in mac repair for over 20 years and i never used them. super unreliable and between firewire target disk mode and netbooting, my laptop was all i ever needed

but now apple killed everything but usb sticks so here i am

I mostly buy MicroSD cards and use them in a USB adaptor instead of USB sticks. The MicroSD cards are usually less expensive that way and also seem to have smarter NAND Flash controllers with more wear leveling.

so users home folders default to /home/user

any downsides to using a different path?

in my test systems i’ve been using the mac default of /Users/username just for consistenacy across systems

GoSox we use /mnt/<something>/home/<username> because we use NFS home mounts. haven't seen a problem ever

cool

so i just installed xfce4 via desktop-installer soooo how do I start it up? and more importantly, how do I configure it to start up at boot every time?

GoSox: try installing Display Manager: pkg install sddm

it should have already installed the “other one”

GoSox: it will startup automagically on boot and provide login screen

GoSox try rebooting to check if the display manager will start automatically?

negative

GoSox any idea why display manager it installed?

I just accidentally sent piped tee into every file in my /etc directory that started with the letter p

I'm fucked right?

Should I just salvage my other config files and rebuild?

I only have 8 but passwd is one of them

I think passwd can be rebuild from master.passwd and pwd.db too and you probably didn't change the others (except for that tee accident), so probably recoverable from the repo or base.txz

okay I was able to get passwd back

I ran getent passwd > /tmp/passwd.recovered

"The passwd file is generated from the master.passwd file by pwd_mkdb"

Now I just need to find default versions of protocols, profile, phones, and printcap

I really need to start creating periodic snapshots

*facepalm*

yeah I just pulled down the base.txz and I'm copying the defaults back to /etc

can you run X programs through jails?

I'm having issues with 15-RELEASE RPI.img... I get it to boot but uboot flashes in and out and so does the rainbow screen block

lucius: I once ran Firefox within its own jail, using SSH for X forwarding. It was slow af.

okay thank you, everyone. I learned a valuable lesson. I also just created a snapshot for future SHTF scenarios

dango: it was just a considertion to sandbox discord more, but I could imagine it being really slow

well it running through the linux compat layer should also kind of isolate it I think

dango, when pushing X11 over ssh, it's usually useful to enable compression.

ie, ssh -C

you don't need to push it over ssh, you could also share the required files and sockets with the jail