that question is so vague it doesn't even make sense Chip1972

I manually installed freebsd in ada0s1, but the vm dont boot

the VM uses what kind of early initialization, EFI or BIOS?

ada0 is mbr

that does not answer my question

the VM, uses an EFI, or a BIOS?

normal installation boot nornmally

never used efi

okay, I'll change tack

how did you start the VM on the computer that's hosting it? what program did you use?

virt-manager libvirt

and

what operating system were you running libvirt on

linux

qemu on linux supports both seabios (a BIOS) and tianocore (an EFI). when you start the VM, if it has a video console (I assume it does), do you see the word SeaBIOS or do you see a picture possibly containing the word TianoCore

where I find a mbr manual instalation tutorial?

seabios

how to make ada0 bootable with fdisk?

> fdisk is deprecated and is not available in FreeBSD 15.0 or later.

how to fix this? BOOT: F1 ####......

why can't you just use the installer

rather than some weird manual install

especially if you don't know what you're doing

I want to learn.... I want to move to FBSD, but I dont want to make the same mistakes when I moved to linux

so use the installer, which does this for you

I want to know what I am doing, e do what I want

`man gpart`, search for `bootcode`

I work with electronics, and studing biochemistry. I alredy have many books to read. I need a solution

OMG!!! I erased ada0....

I give up for today

alo `man boot0cfg`

also*

and yeah you're going to have to read manuals, that it adds to your reading load is not an excuse

and i suspect that part of the frustration here is, as well, a language barrier

yeah.... greetings from Brazil, in a new age of tirany....Thanks Mr SuperTrump...

Has anyone been able to upgrade 14.3 aarch64 to 15 using pkgbase? I've installed the pkgbase-15 keys and it still refuses to verify the FreeBSD:15:aarch64 repo fingerprint.

lsblk

bruh

Wrong OS bro

it's like a OCD. i just do it everywhere

I suppose there are far worse habits

Yeah i think so.

amigan: you have to update the repo so it will work

but i don't recall atm to what

but you should be able to find it

Quick question: What's the best way to mount ext4 drives? i used for that purpose the fuse-ext2 mod but it's very slow. Any others? Or i just format from ext4 to UFS/ZFS.

It's all the same as the 3 amd64 boxes I've already done

Obviously $ABI is set differently

sotov1ch: mount -t ext2fs

But you are better off using UFS if this is not for data interchange

rtprio: really seems like the aarch64 repo is signed with a different key

amigan: Thank you. Yeah, i just have some files/ROM's on it. But it's not really important. Currently moving to own home, where is can run my 4x Rackserver and thinking about to just use FreeBSD as OS. To learn jails, pf more too.

Good luck. I have a pretty heterogenous environment at my house. FreeBSD and Linux excel at different things, but all mission critical infra (routing, DNS, voip, auth) is FreeBSD.

i used FreeBSD for my Tor Relays Infra and it was very stable though. i thinking about to making own DNS at home. (i used Pi-Hole before).

sotov1ch: github.com/0xERR0R/blocky > pihole, except in terms of RAM usage

I tried asking for an mentor on freebsd-dev and discord, is this something that people do these days?

I use blocky as a DoH forwarder, splitting my own master zones to BIND

amigan: Never heard of "BLOCKY" but it looks very interesting. i'll look more into it.

i think the RAM Usage wouldn't be a big problem.

It's a hell of a lot lighter than pi-hole. No web interface though. I use prometheus and grafana to monitor it

Mostly because pi-hole is just a composition of dnsmasq and assorted php tooling.

it's also a lot better without webUI tbh. since i prefer to stay in terminal.

and thinking also about to make an OPNsense box behind the DOCSIS Modem. i hope everything works how i want it :P

amigan: nah, it's 14vs 15 pkgbase key

regardless of arch

What is our opinion about the Helix Editor? i'm a vim user but i wanna switch to hx.

Works great for the beginning.

But the motions are kinda different to vim.

rtprio: but I copied the key from a 15 installation. I've also tried the key in FreeBSD-pkg-bootstrap-15

And the one in stable/15 sources

I diffed the packagesite.pkg pubkeys between the two arch repos, they are the same. Wtf is going on

good morning!

when I trying to start X now (with nvidia Geforce GTX 660 ) yes really old gfx-card ^^ but the problem is that X just trying to start and is black with a white cursor in left upper corner. dpaste.com/57CJ6NHZU my guessing it that it´s something with the keyboard, but not 100% sure, maybe someone else can point me in right direction :)

found the problem needed to set kld_list="nvidia-modeset" in rc.conf and not kld_list="nvidia" :D

Question. Backups aside, if I upgrade from 14.x to 15 and do the pkgbasify thingy, and something goes wrong, would I still be able to revert to a previous zpool checkpoint?

(Assuming I make a zpool checkpoint before starting the 14->15 upgrade.)

dango: yes, it should work, but more natural will be testing new environment/update with new BE (boot environemnt)

mzar: Thanks! That makes me a bit less scared to try the update. FreeBSD upgrades have been painless so far, but this seems like a bigger change than usual.

hmm looks like wine and wine-proton need 32bit package, but looks like with 15.X it´s not built anymore?

found this bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=291328 :P

Hello, all. If I want to keep using a old version of FreeBSD on an old x86 machine, shall I somehow download all the binary packages while they are still available? Will pkg let me do so in a portable manner, in order that later I may re-use those packages as a local repository?

yeah, support for both 64bit wine and 32bit wine together is a bit of a hack for a while now, not sure what the status of wow64 mode is, if you don't care about 32bit wine you can use the executables with 64 in the name directly, instead of the wrapper scripts

ant-x: the packages for older releases are unlikely to be deleted, but in any case you should have the packages you downloaded in /var/cache/pkg/

ant-x, I would download the *source* to everything and then compile everything from source and then you will have it forever. The base is trivial. The ports will be a little more effort.

nimaje1: yeah, I choose WINE=/usr/local/wine-proton/bin/wine64 winetricks but it still complained about you need to install 32bits :P I will wait and see

cyric, thanks. You say the packages for older releases are not routinely deleted. Where are they stored? I had to upgrade from 14.1 to 14.3 in order to intall a package that was available in 14.1 as well.

cyric, re: saving the sourcecode. Do I download it directly from the version-control?

I would git clone base. And ports. But I am not very knowledgeable about ports. I think one would set up poudiere and have it then download all of the source and build it.

hm, my shell history says I used wine64 winetricks at some point, setting WINE would still run the wrapper script (winetricks)

I will double check again then :)

I'm starting to think this site isn't very reliable freebsdwiki.net/index.php/Cu

`cu(1) - Call up another system` uh huh

ohhh it's not been updated in 15 years, that'll be part of ti

zip: what's wrong wit this ?

we still have cu(1) and tip(1), but tip onlty i nanial pages

s/nanial/manual

oh, just that it suggests it's short for "connect unix"

I was trying to work out what the practical differences between `cu` and `tip` are, and as far as I can tell `cu` is more designed for when you've got a definition for a system you'd like to dial with a modem so you'd go with `cu <system>` whereas `tip` seems more like it's for when you want to talk to a specific line and the properties are stored in a file so you don't have to input them

in practical modern use you just wind up with `cu -l /dev/ttyU0 -s 115200` or whatever anyway

generally I tend to install `tio` as it's quite nice

funny how often the answer to "why does this have such a weird design" is "because it was implemented in 1992 when each computer had hundreds of users, you used a terminal, and connecting to other computers involved a dial-up modem and long-distance telephone calls cost money"

I ran across a daft argument the other day about the secure attention key which was split between "if someone can subvert login you're already hacked" and "this can't stop hackers anyway", apparently all blissfully oblivious to the idea that a legitimate user on a multi-user system might leave a terminal running a script that pretended to be a login prompt

is it hard to install freebsd with sway?

:D

No.

is freebsd secure?

Yes.

does it come with preinstalled firewall?

or no firewall in the iso?

Yes, it has a firewall

do I need to do much configs to install it

?

To install it, no

To configure it, you would do good to understand how it works

do I need to do much configs at all?

I dont want to deal with configs tbh

:d

What would you use the firewall for?

idk blocking people from attacking me? :D

whatever a firewall is good for

I am not a specialist

does sway work good on freebsd

On a desktop it's not all that important.

And my "main" server firewall config is 14 lines.

do some people use it as a desktop?

Yes

Plenty

whats the reason for using freebsd as desktop?

why wouldnt someone use linux as desktop instead

Same reasons as running Linux on desktop, except it's FreeBSD and not a clusterfuck

sway works just the same as on linux.

If you prefer one or the other. Games have a higher chance of working acceptably with less effort on Linux, probably. Other than that, pick 'em.

can I somehow check on linux first if it  would cause some troubles on my hw

I have i7 9700t processor for example

I don't think that would make much sense.

alver what?

Just try it out. Whatever Linux does is no guarantee for BSD and vice versa

how to install freebsd

I have it on usb stick

sudo dd if=~/Downloads/FreeBSD-15.0-RELEASE-amd64-dvd1.iso     of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=sync

reboot

Ok I installed FreeBSD

I had to do some configs though

I'm not sure how secure it is to go into root

I did login as root

And I took the sample config from doas

In which it gave user bob and Elsa root

Lol

Fuck xd

And another happy user :-)

they were in #linux earlier today asking about Guix

and picked freebsd?

no clue

the "is freebsd secure" bit made me laugh

I would argue "more or less", but definitely more than Linux...

Hello Everyone

hi acu

I there a FreeBSD strategy and vision for generative AI infrastructure - e.g. vllm - especially - though ollama might be marginally OK - so we can run different open source LLMs such as DeepSeek 3.2 or Lama4 etc ? - of course a ecosystem - such as AnythingLLM or OpenWEbui - will complete such strategy ?

cant decide if I should re-install my old workstation with freebsd 14.X so the kid can play games via wine-proton..

maybe was a bad idea to jump on the 15.X train at the moment..

nwe, since new v. 15 has no 32-bit libs, its WINE cannot run 32-bit Windows programs?

I thoutht the problem was planned to be solved in 14...

acu: I am pretty sure the freebsd core and foundation are both rigidly against AI

lol

I am glad they are, and nothing lolful about it.

ant-x: thats why I think i will still thinking to downgrade/reinstall and stick with 14.X

nwe, Yikes. This is not a WINE problem, but a FreeBSD problem, right?

ant-x: it´s a FreeBSD problem because no 32-libs in 15 as you said.

nwe, you could use an emulator (emu386, bochs, DOSBox) or a virtual machine.

nwe, but does WINE itslef (e.g. on Linux) require 32-bit libs to run 32-bit Windows programs?

ant-x: yupp

It makes a survival sense that a solid modern operating system to provide seamless Machine Learning and Generative AI framweork possible ---- ironically enough almost all ecosystems and open source models are MIT Apache even BSD license, yet they run on GPL3 OSes --- it is such an opportunity for FreeBSD to step in ---- this time the LEADERSHIP has to take some ownership on the vision... I do not know where to look - where is the leadership right now ? Who is de

facto FreeBSD leadership ?

So, if/when Linux stop supporting x86, WINE will be EOL?

I hope to stay away from the Artificial Idiot, and am glad not everybody has jumped on this bandwagon.

polarian: hi. dunno if you saw my last about ssh tunnels and mosh and vnc. i was misremembering. it's autossh.

autossh requries an always-online machine. On a machine with intermittent internet availabilty, it does work out of the box, because ssh exits with code 255, causing autossh to give up and terminate.

the context where i use it is where one end is effectively always up

ill need to log onto the client machine to look at the script

ant-x: wine is working on wow64 mode, afaik arch linux switched already to use that; and wine can be build to support 64bit programs or 32bit programs, the problem with the current freebsd config is, that wine itself is installed as wine64 and a wrapper script is installed as wine that checks if you need 32bit or 64bit wine, but it only works if you have 32bit wine installed too

f451, autossh fails for me if the machine on which it is running is not connected to the internet. The other end being down is not a problem.

acu: are you searching for freshports.org/misc/llama-cpp ?

nimaje1, on 14.1, I had to fix that script, and write my own simple script to enable the 32-bit mode.

Hi all, I'm going to redeploy all of my jails at home but I'm stuck at the networking step. Home deployment: try.popho.be/images/home.svg . ATM, I have 3 lo(4) interfaces and pf running. How should I deploy my jails now that I have some real networking gear at my place that is VLAN-aware (the switch)? If I attach jails to a vlan(4) interface, traffic from e.g. nextcloud to postgres (each

their own jail, nextcloud is available externally, but postgres won't, I would put them on different vlan(4) interfaces) is going to go through the core router - how bad is perf going to be? If I keep my lo(4) interfaces, I need to manage multiple pf deployments (FreeBSD & OpenBSD)... thoughts? ideas?

nimajel.... thanks.... I am using ollama right now (on Debian) it works good - but VLLM is absolutely genius - for multiple access of LLMs - so I need to setup few test servers.... I wanted to use FreeBSD - specially that 15 is released ---- but I think I need to forgo llama - because I want to setup as server for multiple LLMs and multiple users using them concomitantly ---- I will see if there is a way to run VLLM in freebsd - unfortunately I have no enough

time and resource bandwith to do it right now ---- that is why I was looking if FREEBSD LEADERS have perhaps sponsored projects to optimize ecosystems...

not at machine rn but I use it on client with an @reboot in crontab with something like this: -M 0 -o "ServerAliveInterval 30" -o "ServerAliveCountMax 3" & also with ip of server and not dns name because if internet fails dns also fails

ant-x: ^^^

f451, Thanks. Can you test your commandline on an a mahicne after explicitly disabling all network? If ssh fails with 255, autossh stops for me. -M 0 ???

-M 0 is monitoring channel for autossh iirc

ill be able to try in a couple hrs

I don't see why the foundation or core should invest resources into that, but if anyone wrote a port for it, I'm sure it will be accepted into the ports tree

f451, -M spefifies the additional port or ports. I didn't know you could specify port 0. Will be looking forward to your test of autossh with not network!

apparently it's autossh's "built-in monitoring port"

i guess hence port 0

i'll test it from the laptop when i get access to it because there i have a readymade vnc tunnel

ill just turn off wireless

f451, ""

f451, "ill just turn off wireless" > if its on an external router, might not be enought. Better to disable the network interfaces on the machine itself.

f451, man: "Setting the monitor port to 0 turns the monitoring function off"

nimajel: were you referring the rationale for foundation or core to look into AI and LLM ecosystem ? Because it is possible the most significant quantum leap in computing...it will be virtually nothing in computing, robotics, education and medicine that will not be deeply and transformed by AI - also, as mentioned -most open source LLMs and ecosystems are MIT, Apache or BSD license - which by itself opens and needs a clean platform - GPL3 licensed platforms -

anyhow ... its pity - because nobody else other than Sony can really make a buck with FreeBSD - others (with probably more 6 exceptions for network devices) are just basement homelab fans :) that makes a bit of a challenge for viability and relevance...

ant-x: confusing. I guess this is wrong, or at least not clear, or the man page isn't clear. first see tecadmin.net/keep-the-ssh-tunnels-alive-with-autossh

then see, in the manpage:

"Setting the monitor port to 0 turns the monitoring function off, and autossh will only restart ssh upon ssh's exit."

which is what we want

It is what we want if taken literally and in isolatio to previous statments about exit code 1 and exit code 255. We shall see.

Actually, we want both: restaring ssh if it exists with /any/ exitcode whatsoever, and using a monitoring channel for additional reliability.

These behavior should not be mutually exclusive.

or need not be...

hi

block out quick to $lan_net

scrub in all

block all

pass quick on lo0 all

pass out quick all keep state

can you help with firewall

which firewall? what do you currently have/expirience? what do you want?

nimaje1

I have /etc/pf.conf

should I take other firewall than that?

there is no other than that

brb

this chat is much more active than expected, btw.

Yeah, and other (like #svn) are less active than expected

hi I am back

:d

any idea about firewall?

brb

1 min

hi so back to firewall

:d

I want to shield people from my dangerous pc with a firewall

for me every pc is dangerous

:P

ximon: regarding the question which firewall you want to use, its just relevant information; all three (ipfw, pf, ipf) are fine to use and the diffrence is mostly syntax for the config file afaik

nimaje1 doo you know how to setup pf.conf? very basic? I send example code earlier

I already use that conf

Instead of asking "do you know how to ...?", ask the actual question.

thumbs, what if they really wonder whether we know how to do that. We can say yes or no.

"Can you pass me the salt, please?" -- "Yes".

Still a useless question.

Answer "yes" or "no", and let the asker judge the usefulness.

I dont know anything . anything similiar to ufw default config would be great

I know you're inexperienced, but I spoke to you in the past about asking (smart) questions.

pastebin.com/QaShNDud thumbs what does this /etc/pf.conf do? how to know it works?

better?

ximon, perhaps start from <manned.org/man/pf.conf> ?

ant-x unfortunately I am not a programmer

you have to talk with me like you would talk to a 2 years old

Um. . . programmers and firewall admins are a very different skillset.

ximon, well, those utility man pages are written for users, not for programmers.

ant-x and still I dont understand _D

:D

it would be better if you show me with examples

ximon, after reading $(man pf) and $(man pf.conf) ?

yup

ximon: What part of the docs is unclear to you?

ximon, man pages are notoriously stingy with examples, because people tend to extrapolate from them, instead of reading the actual docs.

I dont even know what a firewall good for :D

I tried

ping my ip from other pc

ximon, look "firewall" in Wikipedia.

there are few /usr/share/examples/pf/

it did not work

"Firewalls are just broken routers."

Thou shalt not joke with ximon.

is there a command to see if firewall is active

and what it does

for me it looks only like code

But yeah, if you have to ask what a firewall is, DO NOT attempt to manage one.

pastebin.com/QaShNDud  but is this ai code good?

Don't use a LLM unless you can verify what the LLM gives you.

Thanks, but I'd rather not waste my time on reviewing AI code. It takes a millisecond to write it.

It's *not* a substitute for the documentation.

I did everything

with ai

to get it running

lol

By the way, you can theoretially ask an LLM whatever you are asking here.

Still not a good idea, given your skill level.

IMHO, it is a bad always a bad, unethical, idea...

I think ximon is earnest.

so should I reinstall?

because there is ai slop code in it

ximon: Of all the years I've known you, you always took the easy way out, and didn't really learn.

I recommend taking a step back and taking your time to read docs.

I will reinstall

is there no easy firewall in freebsd

as linuxx

ximon, effort pays off, get you some friction: <blog.darylsun.page/2025/01/23/se-5-indieweb-carnival-january-2025> .

CrtxReavr: troll policem, grammar nazi

hm, wasn't the easy firewall for freebsd just enabling the firewall service in rc.conf and setting the type to client or workstation?

That can work.

f451: yeah I saw your message about it

thx

I think I have a running firewall now

no idea

if tru

irewall_enable="YES"

firewall_type="client"

firewall_client_rules="add 00300 deny ip from any to myIpaddress/24 out"

firewall_logdeny="YES"

good?=)

firewall_client_rules does this even exit

I cant find it int

docs

pls help with firewall

ximon have you got problems connecting in/out?

nop

I mean I cant ping in my network devices

I didn't see previous messages but what is/was your problem?

They are in a bit over their head, unfortunately.

I still recommend using the example firewalls in the documentation as a starting point.

so client is good?

I mean I have that type of firewall already active

#firewall_client_rules="add 00300 deny ip from any to 192.168.178.0/24 out"

is this command totally hallucinated

?

it comes from chatgpt

Stop using ChatGPT, first.

^^

remove that from your rc.conf and restart firewall

I will eventually write it in my config lol because I need something like that

:D

but not sure how to do it

dkeav do you know how ?

its all covered in the handbook I linked

There is too many bugs for me on sway FreeBSD

I mean the bugs only appear in console

bugs you say

stop trying to find bugs and just use the system

also that firewall line doesnt exist

Cpet

Where is networkmanager

:D

rc.conf

bsdconfig network

Cpet I tried hard

Didn't work

:/

Sad

ximon: well that is how you configure networking on freebsd

and I can assure you it works

dkeav: I would recommend using pf over ipfw

pf is just simpler

block inp; pass out (s/;/\n/)

I tried openvpn

ffs why did I have to typo a 'p'

Total not working

Xd

ximon: you tried using a vpn without working networking

Ye

shocker that it didn't work

🤣🤣

if you genuinely want help I would advice pastebin your rc.conf and the output of ifconfig -a

polarian: i would recommend pf over ipfw too, but the user was using the ipfw rc.conf entries...so

dkeav: probably what LLMs spit out by default

indeed

also best tip I can give someone new to BS: BSD is not Linux, and don't try to make it Linux

~because it won't work~

s/BS/BSD/

cant type today :/

oh and that sed expression wouldn't match but fuck it

no wait it would match, wtf am I talking about

Ok fine

Another advantage of pf is that it is mostly compatible across the entire *BSD family.

But I'm retard

I'm not able to use BSD

I can use arch though

Lol

good luck ximon

they couldn't have been older than 13 years old

or they are a troll

~or both~

you overestimate the average person

hmm

their account was registered on libera a year ago

so they are no noobie

isley: maybe...

its more the fact they were getting help and were too busy explaining why BSD is broken

because look some LLM told them this

Why good luck mzar

Mzar

Saar

I cant speak for mzar but saying "I can use arch though" felt a lot like "fuck this imout

im out"

*

honestly I cant type today

You drunk?

no

same here, I can't type much, only a few words, so "good luck"

good evning!

Vine?

Polarian only because I'm to stupid for FreeBSD doesn't mean that everyone is to stupid for FreeBSD I bet I only lacked a tiny bit of configuration

Don't be sad

ximon: I told you already what is needed for support

which leads me to believe you are just here to troll

ant-x: re: autossh - proved it - it works. on the laptop, i hit f8 which is rf-kill. i was tunnelling a vnc through it. the vnc session crashed as expected. but when wifi was re-enabled i didnt have to restart the tunnel, only the vnc client

polarian: The fellow in question has been a support vampire for years, for context.

thumbs: oh right

hmm

Frustrates me that Arch is seen as "the BSD of linuxes" when it has gone all-in on changes that make it... less manually configured.

wavefunction: the BSD of Linux is void linux

eoli3n: Sure. This was before Void was a thing.

So there's a lot out there that says "if you can use Arch, you shuold feel at home in *BSD"

nothing sadens me more than to read the msot BSD of the Linux is x

:(

"Why not BSD"

why not?

the msot BSD of the linux?

f451, many thanks for the test. Probably -M 0 is key. I will try the same on my FreeBSD.

mns: yeap I know :(

mns, mstot->most.

ahh ok

f451, with an unreachable host, autossh fails for me, e.g.: ``autossh -M 0 trololo'' fails with exit code 1, because ``ssh trololo'' fails with exit code 255.

^ I have no idea why and how your autossh keeps retrying.

...autossh does not fail immediately and stays in the processes if I pass the -f flag, which is documented to move autossh to the background and set AUTOSSH_GATETIME to zero. I am at a loss there.

``autossh -M 0 -f trololo'' succeeds, whereas ``autossh -M 0 trololo'' does not!

wtf is a trololololololo

ant-x and f451, are y'all using a custom rc script to launch autossh on boot? i'm surprised to be failing to find example scripts people are using for this.

So, I am guilty of not reading the docs. The staring gate time > 0 causes the initiaal termination.

cpet, it is what it is: a fake hostname.

normally commands are in ``

ant-x: thats not the answer

it is an answer but not the right one

scoobybejesus_tl, I am just experimenting with autossh itself. I hope to be running it form a @reboot cronjob.

cpet, then I don't know the right answer!

ant-x: wrong again

OK. I know the right answer but don't know which one it is.

then how come autossh fails for you ?

mr i know the right answer

cpet, I cited my invocations.

And I provided an explanation, re: the -f options and the staring gate time.

ok

im guessing the ``'' is just some IRC thing you arent putting that in a script ?

cpet, I first said that I don't know the answer, to which you said I was wrong. I had to conclude that I knew the answer. Then you switched the quesiton from "wtf is trololo" to "how come autoss is failing for me". That's a double confusion!

cpet, no! those are quotation to "markup" my commands.

May be confusing, because some shells use them as $(...).

so what exactly is the problem ?

The problem is not solved. Shall I tell you about it?

Not from me.

ant-x: sure why not im trying to update firmwares

my card needs to 70.49 firmware

and im trying to figure out the easiest way to hack it

Well, autossh is intedned to keep an SSH connection alive, and I did not understant why it did not retry connection when invoked without the -f option, but failed immediately.

why dont you use mosh

or run it in tmux

The answer is that the -f option sets the autossh starting gateway to zero seconds. When it is greater than zero, the first failure of ssh within that window is interpreted as a non-repairable error.

cpet, don't throw other software at me, I am not so fast at learing it. I have solved my autossh problem and am glad of it and want to enjoy it a bit.

autossh+ssh=reliable SSH connection with automatic recovery and reconnection.

tmux is somehing else -- a terminal multiplexer. I use GNU screen for that, and mush I have never heard about.

Goodluck with firmware installation, cpet.

cpet, re: mosh> it works with "intermittent connectivity" -- good. But I need a reverse SSH tunnel on the target machine in order to connect to in the first place. I will use autossh to keep that tunnel open whenever possible.

f451, thanks for linking that article. It gave me the hing about the -f option. Shall I start autossh from cron in the foreground and in the background?

Up to you, I use it in crontab with @reboot

also that test reminded me to look see if i could extend my vnc timeout because if i could make that minutes then it'll stay up instead of crashing and reuse the autossh session

this is what i do

ant-x: autossh -M 0 -o "ServerAliveInterval 30" -o "ServerAliveCountMax 3" -q -f -N -L 5900:localhost:5900 f451@server

on client

then on client tigervnc localhost:5900

*prompts for passwd* - connected

then rfkill (hit f8 on laptop disables wifi) about 30s later vnc errors out and drops

re-enable wifi

start vnc again, it logs in

i have ssh keys set up btw

i upgraded the port and im now using 70.36.0

see if that works better

hi.

hi

what adventures do you bring today

trying to motivate myself to get some work done.

work is good

proving harder than i wanted.

work is bad give you wrinkles and makes you old

theoretically.. supposedly worked out some family gripe i had, and it's still a bit hard trying to get myself out of a negative mindset. but i want to get some writing and coding done tonight at the very least

working for your own benefit is good

aint gonna happen

so i've just been shoving a metric fuckton of caffeine and nicotine into my body.

ant-x, f451, scoobybejesus_tl, Who is trying to get autossh working and having problems? I use autossh all of the time. I wrote up a blog article on it some years ago. proulx.com/~bob/doc/autossh/autossh.html

It's ten years later and I should update that article. And update it for FreeBSD too. But generally I think it will still be applicable.

On server systems that I *only* want to set up a tunnel for SMTP email transfer then these days I set up tarsnap.com/spiped.html as depicted there for tunneling mail notifications and status off the server and to my mailbox. It's simpler for that specific task.

how to add more packages, and reconfigure fbsd. with bsdinstalll?

Chip1972: wdym?

After installing with bsdinstall, boot, then install whatever you want.

with bsdinstalll?

It is also possible to jump to a shell in the installer and then install whatever you want in the chroot target. But that's just more tedious and more work.

bsdinstall can be executed on an installed system Chip1972

however "packages"?

you talking about distribution sets?

yes... and reconfigure metwork

you can reconfigure networking in rc.conf

but sure bsdinstall makes it easier

The only thing I ever use bsdinstall for is to install the base system. I don't want anything more ever to be installed there. Boot the system. Then install the binary pkgs that I want to install using pkg.

And if I am installing a jail container then I don't even use bsdinstall then. In that case I untar the base.xz file and then start the jail.