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V_PauAmma_V
acu, virtualmin appears to be available for FreeBSD as well (in the sysutils category).
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zi
V_PauAmma_V: i think we're getting in the way of a good rant
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V_PauAmma_V
We are? OK.
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zi
i dunno--was just trying to be uh
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zi
comical
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deimosBSD
I think FreeBSD continues to be successful because it avoids fashions, like AI. FreeBSD is already credible and sustainable.
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AmyMalik
*squint*
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kerneldove
any mikrotik routeros experts around?
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black
deimosBSD: I highly agree with your opinion
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black
kerneldove: ask, you will receive.
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kerneldove
well i don't just have 1 question i need more of a convo
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kerneldove
and it's off-topic so i wouldn't wanna spam up the chan
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black
deimosBSD: one of the reasons why I chose fbsd is because it's less popular. i am kind of sorry to say that debian is full of strange people like today's wikipedia
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black
kerneldove: no worry man. i am no expert but welcome all comments.
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kerneldove
mind if i pm you?
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black
not at all
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kerneldove
tyvm
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AmyMalik
black, what do you mean by «strange people»
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black
AmyMalik: obscure entities pushing for changes that are strange
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black
but i have to admit that debian is a very good community effort
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black
the purest OS out there more so than Ubuntu and others. however the thing I talked about is a very recent discovery.
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black
there is a certain "hatred" that I feel is amongst certain free software people
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black
proprietary software is fine but there is no reason to prefer to better camp for the hatred of the opponent
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AmyMalik
black, could you join #freebsd-social and elaborate further?
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black
i am there
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black
sure if you interested
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ketas
actually that cu/tip/sc bug is cursed one
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ketas
who would think that consoles or terminals fail
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ketas
it has to be devices or interfaces
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ketas
like "it wasn't dns" :p
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ketas
and within manpage of cu, nothing tells me it's somehow outdated util, even single usage example used usb serials
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Gud
hello
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Gud
where can I download packages manually? I used to be able to browse this fairly easily, now I can't find the pkg repos
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Gud
I need to download wifi drivers
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Gud
I keep getting 403 forbidden..
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Gud
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Gud
I think would typically list all the packages?
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Remilia
Gud: no, repos have not listed package files for quite a while now in my experience
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V_PauAmma_V
Gud, in addition to what Remilia said, I'd first use "pkg search" to find the relevant package name(s), then either "pkg install" or "pkg fetch" depending on what you mean by "download".
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Remilia
V_PauAmma_V: I think the machine that needs the drivers has no network connection and the machine that does is not running freebsd
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V_PauAmma_V
That could be.
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V_PauAmma_V
ISTR reading that -dvd1 install images (and maybe others) include wifi driver packages these days. If I'm not mistaken, that may be a way around.
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Gud
V_PauAmma_V: the problem is I don't have networking on that computer
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Gud
because missing wifi drivers
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Gud
anyway, sucks I can't browse the packages like how I always could
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anniiii
Quick question, does anyone know of any usb-c wifi dongles that are known to work with wpa(2/3) enterprise with EAP-TLS? (by work I mean not only hardware support but support in freebsd kernel, preferably without having to install separate packages or at very least only things from ports tree)
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nxjoseph
TIL: cp /long/path/to/file{,.orig}
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ek
nxjoseph: With the right shell, yep. Handy stuff.
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nxjoseph
ek: yes, i use tcsh, tried in sh which is the default, but i use tcsh afterwards
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nxjoseph
it didn't work in sh
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ek
Yeah. sh is pretty limited.
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nxjoseph
even in it's name, its 2 characters :D
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nxjoseph
jk, i like tcsh more
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nxjoseph
i even use it in my scripts (even though it isn't recommended) to learn it more
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ek
That's fair. I don't mind (t)csh as a shell. I like the history search defaults and such. But, I always script in sh just to keep it as compatible as possible.
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ek
If it's my choice, I use zsh for the shell. Best of all worlds.
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nxjoseph
i see, yes i like the history defaults too.
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nxjoseph
i try to avoid bash/zfs/fish for some reason
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ek
To each their own. Choices are nice to have. :)
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nxjoseph
indeed
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nxjoseph
zsh's first login setup was interesting, didn't go further than that
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nxjoseph
i was disconnected somehow, did you wrote something?
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V_PauAmma_V
No one said anything after you did.
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nxjoseph
ok, ty.
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vkarlsen
We waited for you to come back
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nxjoseph
oh, very kind, thanks :)
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ek
Haha.
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flatdog
nxjoseph is a good kid, don't bash him
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flatdog
buggers
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aic
I'm bad adult
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aic
I fully embraced bashism
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ek
flatdog: No one was bashing anyone.
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rwp
I really need to free up some time to become involved in the ports. Because every time I do a pkg upgrade it says stupid things like "You may need to manually remove /usr/local/etc/postfix/main.cf if it is no longer needed." which I find annoying. It always scares me into thinking it has removed the package instead of upgrading it.
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ek
rwp: Well, technically, it did remove the package. It just also replaced it with a new one.
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rwp
It's a useless message that I always have to re-train myself to ignore. Which is a bad thing.
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ek
Well, I don't think that has to do with ports directly. It definitely is the way pkg handles things, though.
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rwp
Only some ports have this problem. Which is why I thought it was a ports problem rather than a pkg problem. But I don't know. As I said I should free up some time to dig into it.
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ek
Well, in ports you get the same messages on a deinstall. pkg just prints the deinstall messages as well as the install messages.