my new PC has GigaByte Aorus X870 Xtreme AI Top but FreeBSD 14.3 detected no network (neither ethernet nor wireless) devices

can we have a pciconf -v, darwin ?

'pciconf -v' wanted more arguments/flags/switches/parameters

LxGHTNxNG, so I've rebooted that one into FreeBSD and wondering what else to give that command to find out network devices...

is it 'pciconf -l -v'?

It might be

I must admit I forgot the -l

yeah it's -lv

i output it to a file and am rebooting to upload it

should I use p.basd-unix.net paste bin?

Whichever you're comfortable using. I've seen people here use a debian.org pastebin, even.

darwin: I can't reach that from here. You're going to have to use one that's available to the general internet.

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that site broke. I put the .txt at paste.debian.net/hidden/a9365475

did you see it, LxGHTNxNG or anyone?

darwin: I don't know of any drivers for that ethernet chip

ok

what about the wireless one, and how would I find if they're being worked on. The ethernet one does work in the Linux kernel but that has other problems

darwin: apparently there's been no work done in the aquantia repo for 3 years already: Aquantia/aqtion-freebsd #32

But it seems supported on OpenBSD: github.com/openbsd/src/blob/master/sys/dev/pci/if_aq_pci.c

Also: man.openbsd.org/aq.4

i see; odd

You can chime in here: bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=282805

NetBSD supports it too

As a workaround, the bug report suggests routing through a small linux vm

i use OpenBSD servers but wouldn't for desktop, though NetBSD was my first desktop UNIX at home (FreeBSD at college previously)... of course, I tried to install it on new PC but haven't been able to boot, but that's a question for NetBSD... FreeBSD and strictly UNIX-like that have weekly to rolling release updates are my priority

It just needs some developper time, seeing that it's already ported in Linux, NetBSD and OpenBSD..

Meanwhile you can try a passthrough to a vm. Checkout freshports.org/net/wifibox too

interesting

in future I'm more interested running Slackware in Bhyve rather than FreeBSD in Xen, but I don't do either currently

Does anyone use proton mail and drive on FreeBSD by any chance?

wildeboskat_ only on linux, and the web variants of those

Ah so the apps are not ported?

I was looking for them in ports

you might want to look at rclone for the drive part, it appears to support protondrive and it's great with other storage services

I wish thay had a cheaper tier with no server side encryption shenanigans, it ould have been a good package, usable with a regular mail client

There is not even an issue tracker: github.com/ProtonMail/proton-bridge

So we can't easily pester them to consider supporting FreeBSD. To report an issue, you need Proton Mail Bridge running, WTF!? proton.me/support/how-to-report-a-problem-from-proton-mail-bridge

the get help button at the bottem of the page gets you to a web form

Found it, will send (one more) request

The main thing I would like to see is the email app or the email bridge

And yes I don't personally care about the server side encryption either. After all, all my emails come in on plain text and from servers from either google or microsoft so they are already not private

I'd love it if there was a way to switch that off so you don't have to deal with that bridge

I don't care about guis either, bcs I have only headless installs. I opened a ticket from here: proton.me/support/contact?topic=Proton+Mail+Bridge

does proton bridge require a paid-for account?

cos they're shortsighted if they do. cos you can't fully establish whether proton will do all you need. something like free for 30 days. fastmail does that, it's way bigger than proton i reckon

I don't know really, don't consider the free tier worth it. But the paid tiers give you a lot more for the price than Fastmail

yeah but if i cant test with mutt/imap without paying first - it's offputting. it'd be off-putting for others using $NOT_MAINLINE_EMAIL_CLIENT too. I'll go nag proton see if their position has changed. it used to be only web access on their free tier

I agree. First they should consider supporting it on FreeBSD. To mutt it would look like just a regular IMAP server on localhost

yep

would be great if they could make it os agnostic

Thought I will try it on Linux with a free account, but the download page says: Proton Mail Bridge is available only with a paid plan that includes Proton Mail.

I'll go back to ignoring its existence

as a proton mail paying customer, I would recommend... something else xD They've pushed a lot into their open source, but non-standard electron apps

The bridge does work well enough with mutt and offlineimap/mbsync though, assuming your folder/label structure isn't too complicated.

Hi! Does the FreeBSD NFSv4 NFS server support case-insensitive filesystems ?

what bugzilla component would the bsdinstaller/bsd-dialog go under?

f451: bin

ivy: thanks. in reference to bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=289650

Does anyone have a recommended hardware brand/platform/setup in mind when trying to DIY a freebsd NAS system running ZFS?

I feel as though I want to support 4-5 HDD, but by that point I feel the costs start adding up if I'm buying PC parts to put it together. So maybe there's a hack/idea I haven't thought about.

If you're okay with 4, DS423+ is ~$700 USD.

gnuself: any motherboard with a PCIe slot + an LSI (Broadcom) SAS card with however many ports you need + a case with however many disk bays you need

I think the role of 1 MB of RAM per GB of disk still applies.

Or I guess 1 GB of RAM per TB of disk in more modern proportions.

(raw disk)

gnuself: as far as motherboard goes, if you're looking for a home/soho system then ASRock are decent, if you want something more serious i'd look at Supermicro

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ivy: I could be dumb, but does using a SAS card hurt with zfs or simply depends on how it's configured?

why would a sas card hurt?

gnuself: it's fine as long as it's not a RAID card. for the LSI (Broadcom) cards, just make sure they come with the "IT" firmware

"IT" means it works as a normal HBA and just presents the individual disks, which is what you want for ZFS

got it, that's what I was concerned about... was equating SAS card with RAID

gnuself: 2ndhand enterprise equipment is where it's at ;)