hi all

What's the preferred package to add for php support with apache24?

CrtxReavr: i believe php-fpm is in the normal php package (php84 or whatever)

o_O

so php84 is the package I want?

I also need GD support.

Honestly, all I'm using PHP for is SFPG.

i haven't used php for a while but that is what i remember. gd might be an in extension package which would be called php84-gd or something like that

replace 84 with whatever the current version of php is

bah

So I had a working apache/php/gd setup. . . but then pkg decided it didn't like something, so it had to uninstall, vs. upgrade.

So I've installed php84-8.4.6, php84-gd-8.4.6, and my /usr/local/etc/ files appear to still be there, but if I hit a php script, it just prints the php in the browser.

whaa, system is suddenly now booting from the new (NVMe) disk but using the second (SATA) disk as the root filesystem

wasn't doing this prior, but I hadn't gotten around to removing the SATA disk yet

CrtxReavr: You install mod_php and make sure it's included in Apache's config?

So I want mod_php84-8.4.6 and not php84-8.4.6 ?

No. Keep php84 but also install mod_php (the Apache PHP module)

PHP itself doesn't require the Apache module. Needs to be installed separately.

Well, that is, if that's the setup you're using. It sure sounds like it is.

test

pong

folks, how do you manage your rc order? I have a silly situation where nginx starts before named has started, so it can’t resolve the upstreams, and ends up failing.

in that specific case i would put a second resolver in the nginx config

should I be seeing *something* in dmesg with this Intel X710 when plugging in SFP+ modules? ix0 is just stuck at "no carrier" no matter what, and 'ifconfig ix0 up' doesn't seem to change that

antranigv: could change upstreams to be by ip in nginx, switch to local_unbound. lastly, you could look at NAMED_BEFORE and NAMED_REQUIRE and set those for the named package when it is built

I tried hw.ix.unsupported_sfp=1

that would've worked fine (setting static IPs) but my upstreams are "cloud servers" so A records keep changing and FreeBSD stuff (so geomirror)

however, I like rtprio 's idea of hardcoding a resolver

NAMED_BEFORE and NAMED_REQUIRE directly influence the service start order fwiw

zi , I'm doing it this way: antranigv.am/posts/2025/01/changing-freebsds-rcorder-without-patching

oh, that should work

zi somehow, it works for everything except nginx and named :D

named has REQUIRE NETWORKING, nginx has REQUIRE LOGIN. seems like it should work just fine

is this a dhcp box?

zi maybe it's taking a while for named to start the resolver? I have hundreds of zones

is dhcp in use on this box?

it's a virtualization host, so yes.

id suggest trying netwait before changing anything else then

ah, that's a good idea. I keep forgetting about it

I wonder if netwait_if can be a VLAN device.

interface is an interface

just set it to whatever the interface name is as in ifconfig

rebooting to test, wish me luck.

back. well, it was fixed :-) not sure why, but it did :P

I assume it was netwait, but I also did the rcorder hack of mine

i dont think the rcorder thing is needed

nginx requires LOGIN

so that's after NETWORKING and whatnot

it's likely netwait

id trash the rcorder hack and reboot again

is there an actual reason why there isn't a statically named branch of the current quarterly ports? it's the one thing standing in the way of easily having completely automated package repos for quarterlies (at least within a release version).

oh, I guess I just don't get dmesg messages when I put in SFP+ modules and that's normal. ifconfig -vvvm shows what's plugged in

anyway to track down a unplanned reboot with nothing in /var/log/messages?

How do people send pflog data to graylog or similar?

Does anybody run binkd?

hello all, I'm a beginner in FreeBSD and have a question about dealing with package versions

ask away

I see for instance, for php, we have php84 or php84 so you can choose the version you like

what's the "standard" method of upgrading or changing a version if a new one comes or I just want to?

I have to uninstall and install the new one?

or is there a better method?

like the metapackages on debian-like linuxes

i see some users use postmaster, but that sounds like an email daemon to me :S

oh, it's PORTmaster, not POSTmaster lol

but again that's por ports, not pkgs, right?

for instance I was looking at the python page at wiki.freebsd.org/Python and uses that

packages are actually ports before they get distributed via freebsd repositories, i don't know how you would upgrade php version properly but installing newer ones make sense to me

Krusher: Are you asking about php, python or both?

php, python, postgres... anything really

that was just an example

They work differently.

Which I guess is another way of saying there really isn't a "standard" method. There's nothing like e.g. the Debian alternatives system.

As for php, both php83 and php84 contains …bin/php and those packages conflict with eachother. You can't have both, and as far as I know there's no easy way to pick a "suggested" one without specifying the version.

so I just pkg remove one and the install the other, right?

With python on the other hand, no package provides a …bin/python or even python3 executable. One needs to add such an alias oneself, or always specify the interpreter with major+minor-numer

|cos|: i believe there is lang/python which installs bin/python but not sure

same for lang/go

% grep -i python_default /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.default-versions.mk

PYTHON_DEFAULT?= 3.11

Krusher: Requesting to install a conflicting version will do the uninstall for you, after prompting to verify that's what you want to do.

oh so I can pkg install a new version of, say, php, and it will remove the other version before

nxjoseph: wow, thanks! dunno how i could have missed that one when i actually remember having looked for it. (or was that lua, perhaps?)

oh in the worst case I can do what the wiki suggests with python for instance: for i in $(pkg query -g %n 'pyMM-*'); do pkg set -yn ${i}:pyNN-${i#pyMM-}; done

you are welcome, yes, lua doesn't seem to have something like that

Krusher: packages named like that are things implemented in python, not python itself. each package targets one specifin language version, selected at build time.

I see

thank you for your insights!

so it's possible to make a 2 disk raidz vdev then add more disks later with zfs 2.3 right?

Macer: last i checked, this is possible in 15.0 but not possible in 14.0 or earlier. i don't remember which zfs version is in which release

Aw. I thought 2.3 was going to be in 14.3

i don't see the relevant language in zpool-attach(8) in stable/14

looks like it has 2.2.7

guess i'll wait until november then :)

or do some extreme backup / restore on the proxmox server so i can pull 4 SSDs out of it and make the 4 x 4TB vdev in one shot. i was hoping to move off proxmox to fbsd using jails and bhyve

does fbsd have any sort of webui package for administration of that or will it all be using a term?

nothing in base, there might be something like that in ports for specific things (i think there's one for VMs)

ah ok. is iocage still the thing to do nowadays for jails?

i just noticed that bhyve isn't in the fbsd docs. i always thought that was part of the fbsd ecosystem. like jails.

where are you looking? it has a manpage and there's a section in the handbook about it

i'm looking at the freebsd.org handbook

ah. i see 24.7