is hw.vmm.maxcpu per VM or global?

obviously it's daft to oversubscribe the CPU with a single VM for most purposes, but does it limit the number of VMs I can run? or only the number of cores a VM may have?

MelMalik: the max quantity of cpus to report to the vmm guest

those are called "virtual cpus"

that can be useful with some topologies like NUMA i guess

I have a raptor lake cpu with the E/P-cores. Eventually I'm planning to run quBSD, with stuff like the NIC, firewall and usb running in separate VMs for isolation. When I set that up, I'll probably pin those VMs to E cores

afaik FreeBSD scheduler doesn't support intelligent handling of these different cores anyway, at least not yet, so might as well do some of it myself

anyone ever used launchd (instead of cron) on freebsd?

no, how is it different from cron?

mtll: quBSD? :O

how is that isolation performed? xen?

badkat: combination of bhyve and jails

it's kinda halfbaked, not in ports etc. I couldn't get the installer script to work so I'll have to set it up manually at some point

it does have a guide on doing that though

its more elaborate than cron, in both good and bad ways

for me, the main benefit is that i'm a mac user and my other server is a mac, and the server ill be replacing with freebsd is currently a mac, so it will keep things good and consistant for me

badkat, so it is per-VM?

oh it's the MacOS thing? interesting

I'm pretty happy with cron for the most part, at least in terms of capability. The email thing is a bit annoying though

I never use the local mailbox whatever thing, so when some cronjob fails on a new system I have to go look up how to find out why

MelMalik: yes

mtll: looks ok, but zfs based enviroment are not so "disposable" ;) metada will be a gift for the "anti-anarchist" setups :))

also i would really doubt about "isolation" provided by bhyve shared memory / scope of raw devices

i would trust solaris zones tho (illumos kernel)

yeah it's not ideal in terms of deniability

ideally a truly disposable VM would run in RAM only so any changes are disposed

but at least for me, I mostly just care about somewhat better security, app isolation

and having lower friction than qubes, which I tried to daily drive for a while and it got too annoying

only if you can overwrite the ram fast enough lolol

the innards of qubes are not terribly well documented

x11 gui over jails its damn good

well if you're exploited, obviously the jig is up anyway

but qubes is accesible for non so techy users

yeah, but qubes security model is a bit intense for my needs, really, in terms of the security/performance tradeoff

qubsd looks more flexible

and since the innards of qubsd is just jails, pf, bhyve, zfs and some shell scripts, those are all very well documented, probably be less annoying to go change whatever I feel like

yes, totally more usable

and also qubes has some questionable things in its architecture like every VM having a full blown fedora install, with systemd and all the fixings. and having read some systemd code...

qubes is quite bloated, in that way

i wonder what's up with vmm and jails

it would be really neat if qubsd could reach a level of maturity where it could at least be in ports, and have a healthy amount of dev activity. I think it could really give qubes a run for its money

or even better, be included in the base system. but that's not likely to happen any time soon

if I ever get around to doing the arduous process of setting up qubsd, I might start hacking on it myself, maybe get the installer working etc

doesn't seem like this BawdyAnarchist person is spending a lot of time on it. I guess he made it for his own use and is happy with it, and that's fine obviously

I have considered the relative merits of including it in my own fork, but, eh. Alo that "LICENSE" is definetly not legal-approvable

Also*

MelMalik: I mean it's essentially just saying it's public domain

someone who cared about it could just maintain a fork and relicence however they pleased

it may be interesting to attempt a rewrite from nil

but then, it may be interesting to have a pony

why, because the the "license" is weird? :P

more that it's potentially not of effect

MelMalik: not sure what you mean

looks like Anubis will be coming soon to a website near you (FreshPorts). bsd.network/web/@dvl/114432364179522007

can a jail.conf stanza include mount=, and if so, can it do so multiple times (with +=), and if so, is the result what i would expect (interpreted as multiple fstab lines)?

MelMalik: i would be interested, if you get that working.. if it is even possible... right now i am making a custom fstab.. for each jail and then just link in my jails.conf (per jail).. which is a pain in the button

mount.fstab = "/usr/local/jails/containers/${name}/${name}.fstab"; as an example

yeah

mtll: the license is cool as fuck, obviously is intended to use as you want.. thats why is open sourced x)

Wow.

Plex just pissed me the fuck off.

CrtxReavr: Erm?

"As of April 29, 2025, we’re changing how remote streaming works for personal media libraries, and it will no longer be a free feature on Plex. Going forward, you’ll need a Plex Pass, or our newest subscription offering, Remote Watch Pass, to stream personal media remotely."

So I have to pay plex to watch my own media on my own server.

Welp, that's saddening.

Time to migrate to whatever-fish.

I do have a Plex Pass I bought many, many years ago for like $75 for lifetime or whatever. But, that's still silly to me.

Plex is good software.

But this shit. . .

i mean, who here is surprised that plex joined the ongoing enshittification

Thing is. . . I've paid for the Android App. . . and the Alexa/Firestick App. . . and the LG webOS App. . .

yeah. but the jellyfin apps are _free_

and then you don't have a mysterious for profit corportation digging around your files

Does it support fast forward and rewind?

'Cause a lot of free media server platforms don't.

Yep. I've been meaning to try that anyway since I kept reading that Plex wouldn't stream locally if the network went down. And, even if it did, it granted full access to everything and didn't limit accounts.

I haven't seen that myself, but that sounds dreadful.

CrtxReavr: be kind, rewind your... mp4's

yes, it does

CrtxReavr: Yes, jellyfin does

i hit the wall of plex.. demanding i pay 5 bucks for a freaking app.. so moved over to jellyfin.. throw that in a jail.. and poudriere it.. works great!

is there a cheatsheet somewhere that says what proprietary application that the given port is trying to replace?

that would clear things up a lot faster than a long convoluted explanation about what a "media server" is.

johnjaye: multimedia/plexmediaserver and multimedia/jellyfin ?

rtprio: the description on freshports says it is a "volunteer-built media solution"

yes, jellyfin is opensource, like most software of the sort, is contributed to by volunteers

Looks like I can have Plex and Jellyfin side-by-side. I'll give Jellyfin a shot and see what happens. I'll likely start small since my media library is pretty large. Not sure how much Jellyfin does while importing media, but it would likely take Plex 10 days or so to rebuild everything.

jellyfin is not without its own problems; the ui is weird, it's written in .net, there's no app for samsung tvs

Yeah. I'll see if it works for me.

i found jellyfin on FreeBSD to be quite quirky. both jellyfin and plex ran better for me in a bhyve VM (usually ubuntu). bhyve makes passing through a gpu and host folder quite easy too.

That's very true.

I just have plex running in a FBSD jail at the moment. Seems to work perfectly fine, though.

i run mine in a vm also

jellyfin did not meet my requirements, I run plex though on my fbsd box.

No vm or jail

just straight machine

but i set it up a couple of years ago before someone fixed the freebsd port

No non-integrated GPU or anything on my system, though.

thedaemon: what requirements is that?

ek: same, no gpu. either smart tv or browser

Yep. Roku, Android, Apple TV, Smart TV's and browser all seem to work fine with Plex.

subtitles search / download, not taking forever to load images, not having to rename my entire media structure (setup for plex already, jellyfin wants something different)

a few other things I think

yeah, if a gpu isn't desired then plex on freebsd is just fine.

oh seriously, the scanner in jellyfin is pretty... stupid

Also, it conflicts with something else I installed and it uninstalled..

let me see what it conflicts with

it's better now that i have *rr write .nfo files, but yeah, it mistagged things for a long time

it conflicts with freerdp3 for some reason and heimdal

OHH

WHAT!?

the biggest gripe I have, is I have 2 harddrives with media, and some shows are split seasons on each drive. And Jellyfin makes them 2 shows, doesn't group them together.

Welp, that'll be a problem since I use Remmina which uses freerdp.

Maddening

Hrm. That's... interesting.

I really wanted to switch to Jellyfin :(

might could compile myself

but didn't bother, since I had a bunch of issues.

If plex didn't exist, I would use jellyfin :)

ek: there are 2 versions of freerdp

freerdp and freerdp3

I think it's 2 vs 3

how the fuck would that conflict?

ya 2.11 v 3.14

NO idea

but pkg wants to remove it if I install jellyfin

oh I see

Hrm. I'll have to take a look. Still strange that it would conflict with that, though, isn't it? Doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe a lib issue or something?

heimdal vs krb5

^

oh

Ah!

they use different versions of krb6

5

So maybe freerdp3 or jellyfin needs to swap XD

I don't know the differences :)

there's a really cool media center called 'dim' written in rust

seems cool, but doesn't seem complete

also doesn't build on freebsd

incomplete like most things written in rust

lol

Looking at the port Makefiles for freerdp3 and jellyfin, they both use krb5. Not sure if that's something one of them changed, but I don't see any conflicts.

Of course, this is just at a quick look.

that's weird

GSSAPI_HEIMDAL : on

this is on the pkg

for freerdp3

so maybe that flag makes it use heimdal

Well, I see that's the default option. Both options HEIMDAL and HEIMDAL_MIT just have cmake (either on or off) use KRB5. So, it should be KRB5 no matter what?

heimdal is krb5

that's the issue?

Hrm. multimedia/jellyfin just has security/krb5 as a run dependency. So, I'm not sure why those would conflict.

Seems they're both fine with krb5.

krb5 == heimdal

they both can't be on the system because they both are krb5

Stupid library problems

Oh! I see now. I thought freerdp3 was just saying choosing HEIMDAL was going to install security/krb5.

I gotcha'.

:)

I wonder if one or the other can be changed to not conflict? That would require a defaults change for the package (obviously.)

I don't use KRB5 for anything, so I'm not sure which option would be the wiser choice.

I am kinda curious why Jellyfin would require KRB5 anyway?

Well, I suppose, by default, the package will include as much as it can for support.

so krb is Kerberos, which is a network authentication protocol for client /server applications.

Makes sense

Heimdal was a ?fork? when legalities were in question?

anychance to make jellyfin work in PS4?

Yeah. Just seems to me that it wouldn't be a default option in jellyfin. But, I suppose as much functionality by default is best practice. *shrugs*

that damn plex server was my only way to stream movies/songs to it

oh no jellyfin player? :(

I thought there was for PS and XBox?

the console brings a "generic dlna compatible player"

that works like crap.

Yeah. I've used that before. Not for videos, but for music.

I've been quite upset that PS5 removed the generic DLNA from the main game UI. I used to like listening to my own music while playing games. Now, you need Spotify or Amazon Music or whatever. Can't stream my own. :()

fucking fun cops

I figured by now with so many people complaining, they'd add it back (or there would be some kind of workaround.) Alas, nothing I've seen thus far.

maybe hosting kodi to access the library from the web browser?

Perhaps. That's a lot of extra hoops for something so darn simple.

:(

you must pay money to listen to music

no freebies

always paying

I suggest a PC or SteamDeck over a PS5.

;)

But, I already paid money for my music. That's why I have a media server. lol

but girls doenst like weird boards without fancy UIs

too bad, you must pay a monthly fee now.

it ruins your place aesthethic

I can always use something else to listen to my music. It's only when I play my games that I'd use the PS. That way, I could hear both the game and music in my headphones.

headphones, for playing a video game system?

you one of those CoD players?

At nighttime, yes. Not gonna keep up the whole neighborhood. :)

Bah, I pump my subwoofer up at night when I'm playing :P

tekken comes with damn good OST :)

My subwoofer is too loud for night games. Plus, if I'm playing an online, multiplayer game, I kinda need the headphones and microphone anyway.

I live in a single family home, so all I have to piss off is my wife

and kid

Same.