Well, I don't know if it was 13.4 or the fact that it as compiled in a brand new jail, but it worked!

martinrame: Excellent! I'm guessing it's the newer version of clang/llvm.

As rtprio mentioned, that 13.x version of clang is pretty old!

I (accidentally) commented out my swap line in fstab and rebooted. Lots of services not starting due to lack of network with ifconfig et al complaining no buffer space. Fixed fstab and rebooted, swapinfo shows swap as active (ran swapon as well anyway) but no luck. re chipset so pluged a bge card in with the same issue. Reboot into an old environment (basically fresh install) and that is working okay.

Not sure what else would need to be fixed after that?

can i find out (from within freebsd) how much power the host (or ideally, different components of the host) are using?

FatalFUUU: this sounds… weird. i run most of my machines without swap. does this machine really have so little ram that it already needs to start swapping during boot? o_O

my point being: maybe you're dealing with two entirely separate problems.

phryk: there is a chance, 8gb ram, only just started so dont see a problem with or without. renabled it and its fine. if its more possible its unrelated that helps to know.

opps... renabled it and its *still not* fine

and in both cases (without swap line in fstab and after adding it back) the error messages are the same?

yea, mostly no buffer space available, various services wont start without network , I get rtsock blackhole info unable to find whatever again I think due to network issue

as for your power question - that always depends on the chipsets providing it and in the realm of server hardware (I only really see this via ipmi and such)

i'd probably try to find out if there's still free memory and/or how much swap is actually being used. 8G for a bare system should still be plenty tho.

exception of gpus

i have some vague recollection of stumbling over "no buffer space" errors once upon a time and it definitely not being a matter of too little ram.

swap is sat at 0% since most services wont start its not practically usable after boot

its hard when you cant ssh into the box

if memory serves (it may not), i think i needed to increase some sysctl tunable back then.

oh yes, that makes things a bit uncomfy^^

oddly the only results I can see are people turning on autotuning in freenas causing similar problems

what is that? freenas dynamically setting sysctl tunables or something?

yes, so the article doesnt help that much since their answer is to turn off autotune

Ive cleared out some of my sysctl.conf which were set for samba etc - although been working for a week or sos ince setup... thougn now not sure if ive restarted the machine since then

ah nice that sorted it

that little big helped

so… you're running freenas? and had this autotune option enabled at some point?

no this is freebsd

I had net.inet.tcp.sendspace set and net.inet.udp.recvspace etc

also kern.maxfiles* of various settings

and you removed them, rebooted and now it works again?

yup

going to narrow down now

ah nice, my vague memory helped :D

aye

On the last one so likely net.inet.udp.recvspace=

yup fixed and confirmed, set too high, for a service I never ended up using

when in doubt, return to default :P

I went back to a zfs snapshot on root but that was before I set anything up!

that's a subtle footgun you built yourself.^^

Hi, is there a way to upgrade cc in FreeBSD 13.1?

cc -v gives "FreeBSD clang version 13.0.0" and I need 14.x or above.

ports has different LLVM versions

paulf: can't I upgrade it from pkg?

your cc is probably the one in base

the easiest would probably be just "pkg ins llvm14"

paulf: done, now where is the cc from llvm14?

/usr/local/bin/cc does not exists

clang-14, possible cc-14

or something like that

paulf: clang14, thanks!

now I have to figure out how to run it from make

make CC=clang14

though I don't know BSD make well

paulf: thanks!

I'm trying to build node22 on a FreeBSD13.1 jail running on 14.1, and when compiling from ports I get: make: "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk" line 1191: UNAME_r (14.1-RELEASE-p5) and OSVERSION (1301000) do not agree on major version number.

yeah, no

martinrame: why are you trying to build node22 from src, rather than use pkg ?

why don't you agree on a version number?

I'm not certain but the most likely explanation here is that you are trying to run a ports tree build that is newer than your OS support

first, update jail to 13.4-RELEASE, then see if you can build ports on it again.

Hi

martinrame: I just used /usr/ports ro-mounted into a 14.2-RELEASE jail, and can build www/node22 successfully here.

martinrame: this is the make.conf I used in the jail, I ran `cd /usr/ports/www/node22 && pkg install -yr FreeBSD --automatic $(make build-depends-list run-depends-list | sed -E -e 's,^.+/([^/]+/[^/]+$),\1,')` to ensure dependencies would be fetched

you could try the IGNORE_OSVERSION at the end, but I bet you would end up wasting more time, that is better spent on updating the jail to 13.4-RELEASE which should be a 5 minute task

hi dch!, let's try that later (right now I'm in a meeting)

martinrame: no worries, ping me when you get stuck if needed

dch: I added the IGNORE_OSVERSION=yes param to the end and got the same result.

dch: also, I cannot use 13.4 as this jail must run on TrueNAS Core that can only be upgraded to 13.1. I know it can be possible to upgrade to 13.3 but usin the manual method.

What's the ~delay with cgit.freebsd.org to github mirror?

skered: you should ask the opposite, so reverting your question, short

github is now the official repo is what you're trying to say?

yes, maybe your phrasing was perfect, I just misread it

Is this channel moved to #freebsd-irc ?

-irc is about irc operations

this is still what it has been

hmm...weird. As i can not join into #freebsd on my new IRC instance....it will forward it to #freebsd-irc

there is +f #freebsd-irc

I think that means you go there if you are not logged in

you must be registered to join since it is +r

I see...Let me restart that client now....

Ok

if you don't use SASL to login, and you have autojoin, it is possible that it dries to join before login has completed

s/dries/tries/

I use SASL. But this instance is on archlinux and the new instance is on FreeBSD. The client also different. rch does use HexChat and FreeBSD does use Halloy

Probably something i have to set in Halloy then...

Test1

Tost1

Ok. Does work now. but i have to figure out how to save SASL into this client. As in HexChat does work autocredentials

emanuele6: what IRC client u use on FBSD?

I don't use a irc on freebsd, but I generally use the weechat terminal client

s/irc/& client/

i see

i just moved from weechat to HexChat few weeks ago

But on FreeBSD no HexChat as far as i know

Oh, shit. There is HexChat! :)

the main advantange of using a terminal client like weechat is that you can run it on tmux, so you stay connected if you need to log out of the graphical environment; also weechat can host a relay server from which you can connect with an android app on your phone which is nice

yeah, there totally is hexchat :-) ports.freebsd.org/cgi/ports.cgi?query=hexchat

Yes. On android i use goguma

that is different; you don't use a separate client, you can just connect to weechat on your PC with the same account/connection

Ahh, i see what u mean now

The Lounge is a good IRC client for keeping up and running

T heard about it but did never try

I have an XML file with a bunch of lines in the form of <twiddle foo="bar" baz="nurgle"/>. I would like to parse the file and generate lines like "foo nurgle" for use in another tool. Perhaps there is some way I can make xmllint from libxml generate the output? What's the "right" way to do this?

or rather, "bar nurgle"..

when i was fiddling with xmllint with icecast, i had an incantation of the following: `curl -s -u admin:changeme localhost:24100/admin/stats > out.xml && xmllint --format out.xml | grep title` so perhaps you can go from there based on your needs

tykling: is there a canonical way to set the listen address for gstat_exporter when running it as service? not seeing anything that would indicate so in the rc script, but the executable offers -l for it…

also thanks for gstat_exporter :P

ghoti: there's also xslt, the language designed for xml processing

also, anyone aware of a "bigger" exporter for geom stuff? particularly looking to monitor gmirror state.

kind of assuming i'll have to write my own, but i guess asking doesn't hurt. :P