mount_smbfs has issues with connecting to smb verions > 1. How can I use samba from ports to be able to mount smb server of higher versions?

and also mount on boot

not sure if i'm imagining it, but virtio-9p file transfers in bhyve seem much faster in 14.2

im trying to add a new zpool using an external drive. i plug drive in then try to destroy its factory partition table with gpart destroy /dev/da0 but it says invalid argument "da0"?

but in camcontrol devlist /dev/da0 shows up

zpool create mydisk da0 works though

l00py: what does it show when you enter "gpart show da0"

it didn't show up

what does gpart say, specifically

no such geom: da0

ah, if you no longer need the data on the drive i would dd it then "gpart create -s GPT da0"

and then add it to the new zpool with zpool create mydisk da0?

exactamundo!

so since i already created the zpool do i need to destroy it then dd it?

yes

ok and by dd do you mean dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da0 bs=1M or?

there you go

how long will that take for 2TB?

i would say let it run for 5-15 mins

why would you do a dd on a new zpool? i have never done this

no, we would destroy the new zpool first because it wasn't partitioned correctly

ZFS acts wonky if you give it your entire drive

really?

for example, i had a zpool report bogus numbers about space

we should be able to just throw raw hw at zfs. it's the future

:)

there's no better fs on the planet

i like it myself as well

and then you add FreeBSD stability... :))

btrsbois stay losing

lol

i haven't used btrfs in years but :x

for me anyways

after the dd and gpart create, i don't need any gpart add ... or newfs stuff because it's going to zfs and not ufs right?

l00py: after gpart create is when you should create the partition table with add

that will depend on if you're going to boot, etc

not going to boot to it, just an external zfs pool is all

one sec, let me find you a link

gpart add -l mydisk -a 1M da0?

that's pretty much what I would do

you got this mannnn

:D

how long have you been using FreeBSD l00py?

like a yar? came from mac

you?

this time around....4 years or so

thoughts?

very happy, especially with ports

in fact, i might not shutup now that you asked me that ;)

spill it

get you a server that can build ports

btw i can skip geli init if i don't care to encrypt the data right?

or a machine or w/e

yes

ty

35k+ ports available mang

biggest gripe with freebsd tho?

hmm

the one thing everyone says...wifi

but we're working on it

or they or whatev

ya true

top notch wifi support would lay the groundwork for their laptop initiative too

yep

btw you're saying to add the /dev/da0p# partition to the zpool create, not the raw da0 disk?

yes

whichever partition is the largest

p1 maybe?

idk how you set it up

zero drive, create gpt partition table with 1 big user partition, create zpool with partition. then start using or?

yes

should mount in "/"

under the name you gave it ofc

i never did external zfs before only ufs on external and zfs on root internal so this is my first time then ill finally know how to put zfs everywhere!

woohoo!

may i offer some advice about zfs on externals?

pls do

export the pool before d/cing or let it shutdown completely

it being the computer

so we don't just umount it like an external ufs, but we work at zfs level for unmounting?

correct. "zfs umount <mydisk>"

Hi there, I was hoping someone here could help me figure this out. I setup a new samba share (4.19.8_1) on a new FreeBSD jail. When I access the file share via Windows and Linux, it works normally. However when I access from Mac, I can navigate into folders, but when I try to go back up in the directory finder disconnects from the server entirely and I have to reconnect. Has anyone seen anything like this before?

what's the diff between zfs unmount mydisk and zpool export mydisk?

got me there

if nothing else zfs mount works at partition level and zpool export the pool level

i'd deal with whole disk at a time here so i'd say zpool export. then unplug. then plug back in and ... import or ?

"zpool import <mydisk>"

so plug in, then zpool import mydisk, then read/write files like normal?

yes

tyvm

:)

hope you enjoy FreeBSD

and ZFS!

ty you too. you got any servers?

or just desktops or

just one for building ports

desktop, laptop

service jails look cool

a small enough "jail" would just be a capability context right?

purely a security and entitlements container

Yes. That's pretty much all that it is at that point. Very light weight.

entitlements meaning no resources are given to jail context by default, it all has to be explicit. like x cpu time, y set of file paths in the host

I don't know how to explicitly make those limitations. I have not needed that myself. And therefore I have no idea about it. But I am sure that others will.

jauntyd when i add the partition, what -t (type) do you use? freebsd-zfs?

yes

do you use the same label as the name of the pool or?

like mydisk

the label will show in /dev/bylabel

that's not right one sec

it shows somewhere....ugh

but no, i don't use labels

but it's a good idea

k

it would show in "/dev/label/labelname"

and when, as a user, i went to run truncate -s 50G /mydisk/vm.img it said permission denied. rather than use sudo i should sudo chown -R l00py:operator /mydisk right?

yep, it defaults to root:wheel permissions

gpt labels show up in /dev/gpt/*

oh sorry!

They are separate from the old glabel type labels. gpt labels are now prefered over glabel labels.

gotcha, ty

ok i ran truncate -s 50G /mydisk/vm.img and it worked, but ls -la shows it's the full 50G in size? shouldn't it be a few kb since nothing's been written to it yet by the vm?

no, that's right

how?

i think there's an option in truncate to not preallocate

one sec, ill look

ls -l will show the allocation size not the actual size. Use du to see the actual size.

l00py: listen to rwp, you're beyond me now ;D

wow

zfs list shows it too i think?

it says 432K used

tyvm

what's the device line for the sparse flat file for bhyve to store the vm in? like do i use virtio-blk or ahci-hd, stuff like that?

is usbconfig the right way to turn an external attached usb drive off safely after i zpool export it?

it's nvme inside external usb enclosure

is usbconfig the right way to turn an external attached usb drive off safely after i zpool export it? it's nvme inside external usb enclosure

any mikrotik users?

l00py: a very long time ago, whats up

drijen ty. so i have a very simple setup. a mikrotik wifi AP that's also the router. public side is router runs dhcp client to get ip from isp. lan side, i added 168.x.x.x/24 and 10.x.x.x/24. i want to make those networks separate so no traffic goes between them, only between each lan and the wan. best idea?

physical seperation or logical?

logical is just a vlan for each

logical is fine

yeah just stick each to a vlan

how do i set up a vlan for each?

ive very long forgotten

im sorry

i will point out that the situation you describe is basically router on a stick, for which you can find details here: help.mikrotik.com/docs/spaces/ROS/pages/88014957/VLAN l00py

if networking is unfamiliar to you,i believe ROS is reference in the CCNA chapter 4 or so

for the peanut gallery; i have a synology that i wish to make a backup from to a BSD server; better to just mount the shares and rsync, or use synology's built in hyper backup (assuming folks here have synologys)

is usbconfig the right way to turn an external attached usb drive off safely after i zpool export it? it's nvme inside external usb enclosure

hmmm I am starting to feel I want to redo my zfs setup and replace zvol with volumes with a disk file on :/

bhyve setup*

I was thinking "I will prove zvol's are useful" and then thought now actually I just made my life difficult :P

did your life became really difficult after that change ?

I haven't changed

but zvols are meant to be considerably slower

(I haven't benchmarked it)

no disaster

meh I dont think it is a big deal, I just thought it would be simpler than tons of disk files

and seeing other peoples setup I have concluded it really isn't much more difficult...

hm. trying out ghostbsd and the usb drive is saying cannot receive new filesystem stream incompatible embedded data stream feature with encrypted receive

almost makes it sound like their img has a broken zfs?

freebsd seems to work fine. guess i'll try that out

and see what the gnome experience is like with it

I don't know. I recently tried to boot a GhostBSD live image and it never fully booted. I didn't investigate, because I had some other live images on hand which got the job done. Might try on other hardware when I find the time

I don't remember exactly where it got stuck

hm

i just installed gnome and set up proc and enabled dbus and gdm in rc.conf

but gdm doesn't start

...

xorg isn't a dep of gnome?

what in the world?

isn't gnome wayland only these days?

not sure tbh. maybe i'll re-install and see about reading up on how to configure wayland

but yeah. getting a functional ui in fbsd... sure wish the installer had an option to do this heh

i'm going to re-install and give it one more college try but in the meantime work on making a debian usb drive

if my monitors turn back on. 😕

Macer, If you are trying to create a USB booting portable desktop system then give nomadbsd.org/index.html a try.

no i was trying to install it as a desktop using either mate or gnome. but i honestly gave up. 🙂 i'll just keep fbsd on my isilon where it belongs

after a couple of hours of re-installing and trying to just set up wayland + gnome... and not having it start... it just wasn't worth the hassle anymore.

I happen to think that the nomadbsd desktop they set up is a very pretty one. I don't use a Desktop Environment but instead use a simple window manager for myself.

For other people I usually set up Xfce which I find much nicer than Mate or GNOME.

Mate (GNOME2) is okay. I just really do *not* like GNOME 3.

I also did not think GNOME 3 was possible without systemd too as the two projects have become inseparably entangled, I thought.

rwp: a lot of linux distributions without systemd work around the issue with elogind

so it's possible, although not the preferred way

I am pretty sure that Devuan gave up on trying to make GNOME 3 work without systemd even though they have elogind there. It's just an endless time sink I am sure trying to keep up with it.

But anyway this is FreeBSD and I usually run a tiling window manager myself. I have run fvwm traditionally. I usually set up Xfce for others.

rwp: both gentoo and guix have gnome working without systemd. it's certainly possible

i don't know if freebsd still has gnome working, however

But then I saw the nomadbsd default desktop and I realize I need to understand how it is set up. It really presents very nicely.

looks like xfce

It might be a customization of Xfce.

I'm really not the target audience of it. I am one of those people who if they have to remove their fingers from the home row of the keyboard and reach for the arrow keys or goodness forbid the mouse then I feel that something about the UI has failed me.

rwp: from the keybindings page: Print Open XFCE 4 screenshooter.

its a slicked up xfce

dang, looking through those screenshots i might try that as a replacement for ubuntu on my laptop

"its a slicked up xfce" Sounds good to me!

Since it is designed as a portable USB desktop that means you can try it out. Take it out for a test drive. See if you like it.

im trying to start another bhyve vm but i get unable to setup memory error. i have 64gb ram and HALF is being used by zfs arc (looking at sudo top) any solutions?

Without doing a local install. Then install it if you decide you like it. Pretty nice!

l00py, "i have 64gb ram and HALF is being used by zfs arc" and what is wrong with that? Sounds like it is working correctly to me. What good is unused memory?

If the system needs memory for something then it will reduce the arc and use it for those other things.

but i just explained how that didn't happen

i tried to start a bhyve vm with 4gb ram and i failed

You said "i get unable to setup memory error" but what does that have to do with the arc memory/

Start with the bhyve question first.

(Not that I can help with bhyve as I am not proficient there.)

it means zfs didn't give ram back to system for bhyve to get enough to start the vm

I don't think that is enough information to make that conclusion.

ok well whatever the pedantry is, arc is taking half my ram and bhyve isn't getting enough

It would probably be interesting and useful to post the output of "zfs-stats -A".

l00py: What is your vfs.zfs.arc.min set to?

is that a sysctl?

rwp there is no zfs-stats bin

imm_ it's set to 0

l00py: zfs-stats is in zfs-stats port.

rwp ^

I don't think it's a problem with ZFS, but bhyve

l00py: Do you use bhyveload?

l00py: Or grub-bhyve or similar.

imm_ to start the vm?

i just use 'bhyve'

looks like i can define a zfs_arc_max somehow

what's a reasonable arc max to set if i have 2x1TB in a mirror on system with 64gb ram

2x nvme drives fwiw

I'm running a 4x7tb raidz1 with 16gb arc limit and 8gb to spare for system+services

(24gb total memory)

run fine?

yup, no issues here. although I don't have that many clients

and this nvme array is so stupidly fast, that I don't really need more caching :D

just a bit of metadata and random smaller regularly accessed files is plenty for my needs, everything else can just go to fetch from nvme

so it all depends on your usecase, if you're planning on running a bunch of additional services that all want their own share of memory, then you'd better limit it accordingly

do you set vfs.zfs.arc.max in /boot/loader.conf or?

l00py: get out of my server :p (also running 2 x 2tb m.2 and 64GB

)

trying to figure out what speed a pci device is operating at. with pciconf i see "link x4(x8)". does that mean x4 actual, x8 capable?

drijen lol nice

setting vfs.zfs.arc.max worked. i have tons of free ram again

trying out 8GB max and if it feels sluggish i'll up it to 16

I have a system I don't want to build packages for I just want to install bianry package and the system has no internet. How can I manually install a manually downloaded binary package?

burie: from the official package repository?

burie: in broad, you can download any source code, build and install without any repository

burie: and you can install without those early two step if you cross compile in other machine and bring the build to your isolated machine

burie: pkg.freebsd.org

l00py: Does bhyve work now when ZFS is low?

Download whatever you need, place them on the system, and use "pkg install" to install them.

imm_ yep!

and i'm gonna upgrade my system to 128gb from 64 so it's only a temporary fix to set vfs.zfs.arc.max so low

i'll raise it to 16gb when my new ram is in

ek: so pkg install will work on downloaded pkg files yes

ek: I go to pkg.freebsd.org/FreeBSD%3A14%3Ai386/latest/All but I get access denied

It looks like its intended behavior...

how much space does it take to do buildkernel buildworld? It's filling up my 38G disk in my vm

burie: Yes, pkg install will work on downloaded .pkg files. That's exactly what they were intended for.

burie: Size of build source for kernel and world varies depending on options. They can get pretty large, though.

burie: pkg.freebsd.org doesn't allow index listing. You need to know the package name specifically (which seems a little silly, but I'm sure there's a reason.)

burie: obj size is 15G (7.4G when compressed)