+1 ek, I avoid them for home use too.

One thing that I find surprising and quite annoying about freebsd-update is that it uses install with the sync option. I disagree that it is needed. And it is definitely going to slow the upgrade down. It will be a huge source of synchronous write activity.

I think a better result would be to reduce the need for synchronous write activity therefore no need for a fast ZIL either.

rwp: Likewise. In fact, if I can find standard HBA's that aren't RAID controllers (flashable between) I prefer those. With software RAID being being so good and flexible these days, I really don't see much of a need for a RAID controller at all.

Of course, that depends on what you're doing with it. For me, there's no need.

I agree totally. The HBA cards I have are all flashed with IT mode firmware. The disks are all individual disks to ZFS.

I mean when I worked at HP we had racks of Compaq cciss raid controllers. Every day a tech would walk the aisles looking for disks with red lights. They would pull those failed disks and replace them with a fresh disk.

The cciss smart array controller would automatically sync it back into the hardware raid. In the rare cases that the raid controller failed then we would swap it with another one from the many available. That's a good system for a large enterprise. Simple. Easy to maintain. Expensive! Reliable.

But for the SOHO environment having an infinite supply of spare identical hardware raid controllers is a luxury that most do not have.

Much better to have software raid and handle everything at the OS level. It's just simpler. More available. Reliable.

running a freebsd15-current host under bhyve. have two vtnet interfaces, seem to work okay, but

i see many cksum 0xxxxx (incorrect -> 0xyyyyy) on lots of packets.

saw something about a known bug - just wondering if there is a bhyve or fbsd known fix for this

or if I am just doing it wrong.

saw a post on pf routing about disabling rxcsum and txcsum on the fbsd interfaces but will do more research first I guess. thanks if you have any pointers.

think i found some bugs on the freebsd bugzilla, sorry for the noise

aquamo4k, No idea but maybe someone in the #bhyve channel might know something?

aquamo4k: that's about tcpdump?

i have the weirdest problem with /usr/sbin/daemon and syslog: the stdout of the child process will be logged ONLY if it exits with 1, not if it runs normally. what's going on there?

wait, that's not it. syslog WILL log the stdoutput, but only AFTER the child process exits by itself, NOT when killing it (which is usually how it's exited, because it's in a serving loop)

there are options to capture stdout, i thought

how to install netbird.io on free bsd (OPNsense)?

tokam: that will probably need a proper port, you'll need to ask in opnsense forums directly about that.

should I download go from go.dev/dl/go1.17.7.freebsd-amd64.tar.gz and compile netbird with it?

#opnsense is very active but silent on this issue

tokam if its written in go, try installing lang/go (freebsd port) and go from there.

I'm not familiar with opnsense ports, so again see how you get on.

OPNsense does not have go in pkgs, chat-gpt suggests me to load a go binary?

tokam: sorry, you'll need to ask on an opnsense forum

ffs is it possible *at all* to get twitch.tv going on freebsd

I know somebody has it working, but I have no luck at all

dch: I think this helps? github.com/moserpjm/opnsense-ports

dch: that's like, a website you access via a browser, what's the question?

how do I proceed from that?

armin: I have a twitch acct on my iphone, which has a screen so small its unreadable for coder streamers

when I login from my (15.0-CURRENT amd64) desktop, whether firefox, chromium, twitch tells me I am using an unsupported browser

dch: Well I have it running in Firefox here, I can watch streams and go to the sign-up page to create an account. Firefox on 14.1-RELEASE

how to work with ports? I fetch from git and compile? github.com/moserpjm/opnsense-ports/…ee/24.7-netbird-develop/net/netbird

or something else?

armin: maybe it knows I'm running current then?

rwp: thanks for the pointer, didn't know about that channel

armin: thanks for checking. which chromium port are you using? plain www/chromium

got a 14.1 laptop now, lets see how I get on

armin: this is *very* weird, using a vanilla firefox (fresh profile), it still fails to allow me

armin: does the cookie banner disappear for you? for me it doesn't

also, nix for chromium, ungoogled-chromium, firefox as well... maybe this is some network thing locally

dch: I don't use Chromium myself on FreeBSD (mostly at least), that was just Firefox, actually inside of a FreeBSD jail which I access via VNC through a web browser via noVNC, tunneled through a VPN and SSH, yada yada yada, but it worked.

dch: If the cookie banner doesn't disappear you *could* try the "I don't care about cookies" extension and see if that helps.

dch: I just did a real quick check on that thing because the machine I'm in front of here currently is some old thinclient that runs Alpine.

dch: (reasons!)

dch: I need to get something to eat like RIGHT NOW but if I can check something further for you later don't hesitate to ping.

armin: no worries, thanks for the tips. I'm installing linux-chromium, and seeing how that works out

dch: feel free to report when you succeed, interests me, too. :)

linux-chromium doesn't work either

128.0.6613.137

dch: for what it's worth, i heard from a friend that as of a few years ago, twitch locks anyone out if they detect that their browser is having trouble (or blocking) their spyware. an unusual user agent, or some discrepancies running some canvas simulations, might factor into that

you might even have trouble logging in on linux virtual machine

(of course, they don't tell you this, they prefer to waste everyone's time - one reason why i don't patronise companies like this)

I was thinking it was a user agent thing, perhaps

jmnbtslsQE: yes, i think its some clownflare thing blocking it

I tried to execute make makesum on the /net/netbird folder in the ports but I get this error:

Couldn't fetch distcache.FreeBSD.org/ports-distfiles/bash/v0.29.1.mod: Not Found

what I notice, is that on browsers/systems where it works, I can accept & clear the cookie choices

and on ones where it doesn't (every FreeBSD system :-( ) this is not possible

looking at the HAR file (trace of all HTTP calls) I can see a POST passport.twitch.tv/protected_login with an integrity_token, returning

{"error_code": 5025, "error_description": "integrity failed", ...}

and that's what fails compared to a working one.

whats very frustrating is that other FBSD users report that this combo works

its just on my very snowflakey machine :-(

dch: not sure if cloudflare is involved. from what i read, the integrity check is performed by one of their spyware service providers, and its exact decision process is unknown. a few other things that might factor into it are if you are connecting to their website from a VPN or filtering any DNS such as for ad blocking. but i would think it also runs statistical analysis on html canvas and other dom

computations to fingerprint the device. maybe that could have some relation with your hardware or graphics card

mmm

its a "normal" network here, no vpn etc atm, and I'm doing DNS direct for testing

but the h/w and gpu are not your ordinary "desktops"

a little too many cores and ram probably looks like a cloud botfarm

but my laptop is much more ordinary

heh, interesting. i honestly don't know how much the browser can detect from hardware and graphics card, but i think it's something, so that could be part of the cause

I found a half-solution

installed chatterino in ports, and running the stream on ipad

rwp: RAID controllers have battery backups because they tell the OS that they've written data to disk before the action is complete - which can lead to inconsistencies.

Also, please be careful with terminology. The ZFS Intent Log is a zpool feature that exists on all pools, whereas the Separate Intent Log is what can optionally be added to a pool.

It's called the 'log' device, and the terminology 'cache' is used for the L2ARC.

dch: you can still connect to Twitch via a regular IRC client.

irc.chat.twitch.tv:6697 (ie. TLS) with the password "oauth:<token>" where <token> can be had via twitchapps.com/tmi

For watching streams, I'm using streamlink via pipx (unfortunately the port is out-of-date, and I don't have the bandwidth to pick it up and maintain it)

Oh, I was skimming the log and I thought you were talking about watching Twitch, but maybe not.

debdrup, My caution really was because I have seen a lot of orange lights on raid controllers indicating a dead battery. As long as they are still powered up on AC mains then everything functions okay. But of course with the battery dead if there is a power failure then the data in the controller is lost which can cause corruption on disk.