oh my gosh.

What?

i had build_options="...WITHOUT LOCALES..." instead of build_options="...WITHOUT_LOCALES..." in my occambsd profile

Oof

That would be annoying to find

occambsd starts by asking make showconfig about all the possible WITHs and WITHOUTs

it gets rid of all the WITHs, and starts with the idea that it's going to be WITHOUT everything

never heard of occambsd

that's stored in the all_options variable. and then for each word in build_options, all_options=$(echo $all_options | grep -v $word)

so WITHOUT_THIS WITHOUT_THAT WITHOUT_THE_OTHER | grep -v WITHOUT is ... nothing

so it happily built with all the defaults

Indeed

occambsd isssss

applying occam's razor to freebsd build options to build tiny jails, VM images, cloud images, etc

he's done a few talks about it at various bsd cons

Hmm, I might check it out. It sounds pretty neat for running services

This jail-level metrics may be useful for some people: memory, CPU, etc, per jail: x.com/DLangille/status/1820966352380653755

hrm, bitperfect works with my USB DAC, but i can't change volume in mpd.

dch you around?

dch I integrated "depend" with Jailer's generated jail.conf, but now I'm having problems

say I have www0 which depends on dns0. if www0 is starting, then dns0 will start automatically; but then the jail command (inside rc.d/jail) will try to run dns0 *again* and it will fail

I wonder how do you do it

I moved my files to /usr/local/etc/jail.conf.d/*.conf and I added include to that path ; fixed the issue

Is anyone running Home Assistant on FreeBSD? I was thinking of putting it in a jail, if I can get it to run.

I am planning to run it so lmk how it goes for you

i looked at a write-up or two, and it seemed overly obnoxious to set up

i'm interested, but it feels fragile and unnecessarily complicated

Well, I've also got an unused NUC I can through it on, but I think I'll try it in a jail first...

Can always just virtualize it too

Yeah. I haven't run bhyve in some time because most of my stuff runs in jails with bastille.

I am running Home Assistant now on Alpine and I definitely can't go without it

Probably my most used self hosting thing besides jellyfin

i need to give bhyve another go. even with vm-bhyve, it seemed a bit opaque, but i should be capable of handling it now.. though everything in a jail is def preferred for me too

okay this looks much easier than when i first read it: dan.langille.org/2022/08/27/getting…tant-running-in-a-freebsd-13-1-jail

Well! I've got homeassistant running in a jail.

I followed dan.langille.org/2022/08/27/getting…tant-running-in-a-freebsd-13-1-jail

One thing that got me was you need to have cmake and git installed in the jail.

Ha! Got an error... "No moduel named 'numpy'...

i would have thought a pip package would have its own Requirements.txt that is run as part of the install process, but i don't know python package mgmt super well

depends on rust and python, yea, this is certifiably crazy

I think it is probably easier to package than signal desktop, though

beowuff: i had one running in a 13.2 jail. but it broke recently. it's a bit if a hassle to get it running

i might try fixing it …

Well, it currently says Home Assistant is starting, please wait...

And, now it's complaining about ffmpeg.

So, while not great, at least it's not too hard to make progress.

Honestly though about trying openhab just because there's already a port for it lol

there is someone creating a port for HA, not sure about the progress bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=256885

ah, a write-up is in there for putting it in a bhyve vm

Yeah, I'm getting a ton of errors now about "ValueError: Unsupported system: freebsd" ;/

hm, maybe there is some truth to "Even though the HA Core developers go out of their way to unsupport FreeBSD," in that problem report

Yeah... and I was reading Dan's comment about running it in bhyve. Might just try that. :/

Hi, can a wireguard tunnel be bidirectional? ping client -> server and server -> client (wg0 tunnel ip)

Seems like only client can ping server and lan but not server to connected client

victori: you have to let the server access the client's IP

okay how?

seems like you made some mistakes somewhere when setting up wg, a unidirectional virtual private *network* is extremly broken

I haven't tried wireguard on FreeBSD, but normally where you set the server and lan IPs on the client you do the same on the server's config

i have a strange network issue where i can ping the default gateway (192.168.1.1) and internet addresses but i can't ping other network connected devices.

yeah weird, so openvpn does a bidirectional tunnel not wireguard

Wireguard absolutely does bidirectional

they are networks, not tunnels

yeah wrong nomenclature

and as ping works you get packages in both directions, do you filter icmp in one direction for some reason?

Ooo, just found this. blog.brendans-bits.com/posts/2024/home-assistant-2024.7-jail

Giving it a shot...