I was browsing some of the mk files in /usr/share/mk and it said something about YES_FOO and NO_FOO being removed in Freebsd12

is that still the policy?

Anyone going to BSDCan?

i was going to, but alas- circumstances not in my favor

it says it's in Taipei, Taiwan. unless you mean something else

oh it's literally bsdcan

yeah, not asiabsdcon

Its in Ottawa, Canada

I won't be going for the forseeable future

FreeBSD w KDE5 (virtualbox), does anyone experience slow mouse wheel scolling?

@RoyalYork, everything in VB is laggy for me. Doesn't matter what kind of host it's on. It's abysmal.

On my ${JOB} MacBook, it's unusable. Same with Windows, Linux, BSD's, or anything else.

ek, ok thanks. it was a tad smoother using xfce, but oh well

@RoyalYork, all other local virtualization hypers work, though. Not sure what's up with VB being so bad. I've tried every recommended setting with no helpful impact.

Bhyve has been my go-to recently. It's performed great.

VM's with xrdp are instant.

Ill give bhyve a shot once I get my server up and running

hey, has anyone put FreeBSD on OrangePi 3B with RK3566?

huh, so lid_switch_state or whatever works for putting my laptop in suspend, but eventually it just stops working. I wonder if it's a hardware issue, or if it's FreeBSD's issue

even after the lid stops triggering sleep, I can still manually `zzz`

Title: BSD Now 546: Debunking FreeBSD Myths

hi all

hey

i've been wondering for a long time. why does netflix use freebsd?

I heard that because of good network stack performance, also some in-kernel file passing from disk to the net

there was somewhere a presentation from netflix about that

probably this one

ah ok. i found the talk here thanks

Title: Serving Netflix Video at 400Gbps on FreeBSD by Drew Gallatin - YouTube

debdrup: how recent is your current? mine panics on ‘pmstat -t’ on both aarch64 and amd64

curious to know if that’s just here on my hw or not

non root btw

dch: a few weeks old, from back at the end of January.

if you can survive a panic can you test and let me know please? I don’t have a snapshot or be old enough to test from

but I need a known good point to start a bisect from

that'll involve potentially panic'ing my machine :P

hence my mentioning a panic …

Could this be recreated in a VM? That would not risk the host machine in that case.

I've got my backup disk (connected via USB3 to my homeserver) giving me occasional CAM errors, I'm trying to figure out how to get the smartdisk info out of it but pointing smartctl at /dev/da1 doesn't work, and I'm not at all sure which usb device I can specify with -d. Any pointers would be appreciated

vortexx, That's one of the things I don't like about USB connected disks. They freak out after a while. I see that same thing on all operating systems. I am dealing periodically with one on a friend's machine that they use for backup. I get an email when it freaks out. I then ask my friend to detach it and then attach it again to reset it. Every month or so.

As to reading SMART data that depends upon the USB controller in that device. Some USB drive controllers pass that information through okay and some do not. If yours does not then you can only change to a different one.

But my experience is that it is the USB controller itself that is freaking out and not the drive it is interfacing too. So I would be less concerned that the drive is failing. Not unconcerned. But just less concerned. If it resets upon a detach/attach cycle then that's pretty typical for what I see.

Which is one of the reasons I really despise USB disk controllers for anything other than manual use as a big floppy disk. It's okay for sporadic use. But not great for continuous use. I would do something different if at all possible. Installing another internal SATA connected drive would be much better.

If you really want the SMART data from the drive then most of those can be disassembled and the internal drive removed and then the SMART data read while it is attached using SATA.

rwp: thanks, it's as I thought. Drive is 4 years old, case is Mini-ITX (I have very little spare space) wih 6 drives so I'd have to remove one to test it I guess. Going to try every usb attachment listed to see if it works

The steady state of disks is full.

vortexx, I would guess that if you detach it and then attach it again (providing the full power cycle) then it will be okay. You would probably read every block from the disk and it would be okay. Probably. That's my guess based upon my experiences with USB connected storage.

Meanwhile... USB network adaptors have been amazingly rock solid. No problem with the ones I have used. And I have deployed a bunch for dedicated controllers at remote sites and they have just been very reliable. Unexpected. But good.

wtf devops.com/the-cyber-resilience-act…threatens-the-future-of-open-source

Title: The Cyber Resilience Act Threatens the Future of Open Source - DevOps.com

rwp: it's doing a timeout nearly precisely once every 24 hours, this may not be that bad: (da1:umass-sim0:0:0:0): CAM status: SCSI Status Error

hernan, People have been warning about the CRA for some months at least now. It's been like an unstoppable lava flow though as nothing has seemingly deterred them from continuing.

oh really, i only saw it now

vortexx, It's been regularly at 24 hours pretty close to exactly? That does sound like an OS driver problem or something then.

My friend with the USB disk which routinely flakes out and my own previous USB disk were both on Linux kernels.

hernan, Politicians always feel that they can legislate and that what they legislate will override jurisdiction and physics and everything. It's sad how poor at thinking they are. I almost said critical thinking. Then removed the word critical as being redundant.

fatal; pci passthrough not supported on this system (no VT-d or amdvi)

wtf

Did it get forgotten to be enabled in the BIOS/UEFI firmware?

I don't know why but vendors always ship with that disabled by default. I always have to enable it in the BIOS.

hernan, These are good reads but I post them to say look at the dates on these articles! internetsociety.org/blog/2022/10/th…ll-damage-the-open-source-ecosystem

Title: The EU's Proposed Cyber Resilience Act Will Damage the Open Source Ecosystem - Internet Society

Title: Open-source software vs. the proposed Cyber Resilience Act

rwp, well I have VMs running successfully (bhyve). but I try to pass a PCIe card through for the first time

Those are dated late 2022!

and I am not very successful

I have the ppt driver attached

but the guest VM doesn't see it so I looked at the log and saw that message (using sysutils/vm-bhyve-devel)

jbo, Congratulations on getting that going! I have myself not done what you are trying to do. I will be woefully inadequate at helping. :-(

rwp: yes it might just be a driver issue. it happens at 3:14 AM

(it didn't at first, variations of +1 or 2 hours, but since the 5th of Feb it's been every 24 hours)

Hmm... "Curiouser and curiouser", said Alice.

huh, seems like FreeBSD does not recognize the fn key combos to control stuff like screen brightness on this laptop :/

does acpi_video.ko control this? seems like that's not actually loaded, hrm

tm512, I don't know about FreeBSD on laptop here but on Linux I have to stitch most of those in manually. My writeup on doing so on Debian: proulx.com/~bob/doc/thinkpad-x220-l…keys/thinkpad-x220-laptop-keys.html

Title: ThinkPad X220 Laptop Keys

If FreeBSD is similar then a similar solution may be needed.

I know it is the wrong OS for here but I submit it in the hopes it will be similar in concept and useful anyway.

the backlight command that FreeBSD comes with lets me control the brightness just fine, but the keys don't work. not on this specific laptop but my experience on Linux is that brightness control keys just work out of the box, I think on my old ThinkPad W500 the brightness control keys worked on OpenBSD without further configuration as well