Ok I'm taking a i386 12.4 to 13.2... send bits to /dev/null for the UNIX gods. This machine is 120 miles away.

any solutions scoobybejesus?

Good luck skered! Thinking happy thoughts for you. :-)

well, the only thing that comes to mind is to not move it to a temp dir which seems like a constraint

this is what doesn't make sense. if the build dir has soft links ok, but the iso produced from it is 1.7GB. so why when i copy that dir, even including its softlinks, is not only the temp dir twice the size, but the iso produced from it is too

maybe i can find a cp switch that doesn't copy soft link source files but copies the soft links instead?

polyex, I am thinking that it doesn't make sense for it to have expanded that much. Something is wrong.

ya

Use rsync instead of cp. It's better for a number of reasons of opinion such as being restartable.

build the freebsd source, then install world/kernel, and then cp DESTDIR and see it's double sized now

hm

"man cp" for -R says "This option also causes symbolic links to be copied, rather than indirected through" so should not be copying targets of symlinks.

duh how'd i miss that

-RL

i can try that

but i wonder if i can use -s

so i basically just create a symbolic copy to the build dir, copy my changes in over the symlinks, and not need as large of tmp dirs

If the copy doubled in size then I think you have made two copies somehow.

ok cp -RL still ends up basically double

Hints for exploration tools: I like "ncdu" for exploring (in a terminal) disk usage.

Since there is double the space it does not seem like a subtle difference. Will probably be able to see the problem pretty quickly.

And if not then I would use "rsync -n --delete -av src/ dst/ 2>&1 | less" and see what rsync says is needed to converge the two directories. CAUTION: ENSURE THE -n OPTION IS THERE.

ok tried cp -Rs and that wasn't a solution

i wonder how i can actually just duplicate the dir instead of dealing with these symlink issues

Do you know the problem is actually symlinks? Does not seem plausible to me.

well -R right?

cp -R does not copy the target of symlinks but would copy the symlink so would not be doubling the disk space.

ohhh i misunderstood. well wtf then

Adding -L would force cp to copy through symlinks and would copy the destination too. Not what you want.

ya

And how many symlinks are in the directory anyway? Look and see. Hint: find . -type l -ls

looks like quite a few

i should check for hard links

find man page -type doesn't have an option for hard link

Files that are hard linked are just normal files, with a link count greater than 2.

find . -type f ! -links 1 -ls

Did I say greater than 2? I meant 2 or greater. But normal files have a link count of 1. So let's skip those. "! -links 1" files not link count 1.

bunch of those too

tried cp -a and it doubles the size too

What command are you using to look at the size? "du -sh"?

What file systems are the source and destination? Is one compressed and the other not?

ya

zfs

no

rsync -av source dest ended up 3.2GB too lol

don't use cp to copy file trees

why not? what should i use?

RhodiumToad, Tag! You are it. I am relocating. :-) [I always use rsync. Swiss army knife for copying. Restartable!]

tar or cpio or pax

why not rsync?

rsync's not in base.

by all means use it if you prefer

but tar and friends know what to do with hardlinks

(which cp does not)

does rsync know?

man page has matches for hard so it must

is my freebsd build dir doubling in size when i duplicate it because of the soft or hard links?

rsync -aH source dest ended up with same 1.7GB!!!!!!!!!!

there are plenty of hard links in the tree, but /rescue is especially notable since it has 145 hardlinks to the same 14MB file

looool

wut

ok with rsync -aH i can run mkisoimages.sh and it ends with same size !!!

wow

maybe it still would without all of those 14MB files lol

no, the 14MB file (there is only one) is the whole point of /rescue

it's one file that provides /rescue/sh, /rescue/ls, /rescue/cp, and so on

ok so i built and installed world/kernel, then mkisoimages.sh to make an iso, then booted iso, but it doesn't automatically start bsdinstall like the official distro isos do. why not?

all static linked into one file so as to only have one copy of libc

oh

did you look at the release/Makefile stuff and put in all the relevant parts?

ah no i missed that. the section for disc1?

it's the /etc/rc.local which runs bsdinstall

you'll notice that the makefile copies that into the image

(normally /etc/rc.local does not exist in an installed system)

why do we have to do manual stuff just to recreate the official distro isos?

you don't, that's what the makefile is for!

so i'm just not using it right?

you're doing your own customizations, yes?

ya

the makefiles do everything to create the official distro isos

i clone source, make build it, make install it, and at that point i want to have the same data that the official distro iso has

how do i use them?

if you want to do your own thing, it's up to you to decide what stuff to do and what not to do

i just want to take the official distro iso and go from there, not do a bunch of my own manual stuff

all i copy in is /etc/installerconfig and custom.txz to freebsd-dist

12.4 to 13.2 was fine. \o/

oh ok then, did you try make -C release disc1 ?

(after buildworld)

after the install world/kernel?

so before install?

no, that target will do its own installworld/installkernel

specifically it'll make base.txz and kernel.txz

going to try it clean

anyway, make disc1 should create a disc1/ dir somewhere (I guess in the obj tree) and populate it ready for mkisoimages.sh

but won't actually make the iso

ohhh interesting

sounds perfect

can't wait to try!!

make disc1.iso will do make disc1 and then run mkisoimages

ty

k trying now

sudo make -C release disc1? or sudo not needed?

ya seems to need it

i wonder if i can pass a path for it to put the disc1 dir at

not afaik

so it ran but where is disc1/ ? lol

did you look for it?

ya in the freebsd-src dir i ran a find command for it

oh looks like it's in /usr/obj?

"... somewhere (I guess in the obj tree) ..."

should i delete disc1 each time before i make it just like i did for the install world/kernel DESTDIR?

probably

ty!

so im trying out the full loop and i deleted disc1. then i try sudo make -C release disc1 again and i get an error, make: chdir release: no such file dir

you're in the wrong dir

i'm in the release dir

then just make disc1

the -C release is assuming you're in /usr/src

but i didn't make it the first time

oh it is wtf

ahhh -C here is just like tar's -C, like a rebase

ty!

hm weird

so i did a make build, then from /usr/src ran sudo make -C release disc1 and i get some errors. makefile.inc1 line 105 a build is required first you may have the wrong makeobjdirprefix set

stop error code 1 yadda yadda

but the first time i ran it, it ran like normal

is it safe to delete /usr/obj/* and try building from src again?

yes

ok gonna rebuild then try the new make command again

when we run make we wanna do that from the dir with the Makefiles... in it right?

yes

ty!

it looks for a Makefile

from current dir down, or up?

make looks for Makefile in the current dir only

note that -C changes dir before looking for Makefile

make tries to

open ‘makefile’ then ‘Makefile’ in order to find the specifications.

only where you run it.

man make

yeah but by convention you never use "makefile", only "Makefile"

ok i have a clean new built /usr. i search for Makefile and it floods me lol

well it's not in /usr/obj

in /usr/src now. no disc1/ fwiw

from there i ran sudo make -C release disc1, failed

build is required first

BSD make supports makefile by default?

I mean I know it uses Makefile, but doesn't it complain if it's makefile?

why would it complain?

polyex: did you do buildworld/buildkernel first?

yep just ran it

there's a bunch of stuff in /usr/src

what's in /usr/obj ?

oh hey btw should i delete BOTH /usr/src and /usr/obj when i want to do a clean build world/kernel?

sec

Was confused if BSD make looks for makefile if it doesn't find Makefile (thought I remember having to change a port for that in post-extract a long while back).

you should never touch anything in /usr/src

oh wow ok

_xor: it looks for makefile first and then Makefile

I just tested it really quick by renaming Makefile -> makefile, and it worked fine. Then Makefile -> mAkEfIlE, and it failed.

any way to find out if i've borked usr/src?

Wasn't sure if it was a case sensitivity issue I was missing.

polyex: where did you get it from? if it's a git clone, then git status will tell you about changes and git restore will fix them

polyex: How did you get /usr/src in the first place? Tarball or git?

RhodiumToad in /usr/obj/usr/home/polyex/temp/freebsd-src/amd64.amd64/ there's a whole bunch of stuff

oh, if you're building from a src tree located somewhere else, then forget /usr/src

well i think i got it 2 ways. 1 was from a tar extraction into /usr/src, then later i started git cloning the repo into my home dir

Heh, git status on /usr/src. See you tomorrow! :D

any time I say "/usr/src" you should take that to mean "your src dir"

ya i have the latest freebsd-src repo source in my home dir

should i rm -rf /usr/src just so i can be sure it's not conflicting?

sure

says device busy

even as sudo

I have a NFS export I mount from my server that contains a snapshot of various points of the source tree. I mount that as read-only on the various systems where I need it.

chflags

Oh wait, device busy?

ya

heh

it's empty

i guess a flag?

are you sure it wasn't a nullmount?

no, how can i find out?

or if you're using zfs, is it a dataset?

mount

zfs

ya looks like a default zfs point

if it's a zfs dataset, then the error is it complaining that you can't delete a mountpoint

ok i'll just leave it empty

so /usr/src is gone, i still have my /usr/obj from the build i just did right?

If you're using zfs datasets for that, you can take advantage of snapshots too if you're not using (or wanting to) use git.

Just FYI. So then you can roll it back when you want to reset it to a known state.

ok i got it

deleted source, now running make -C release disc1 from the freebsd-src git repo in my home dir

it's running

Hello everyone.

o/

Just created a jail to install "The Lounge" to use as a client to connect here.

having trouble creating a port redirects with bastille on FreeBSD-BETA5

colectora: what kind of trouble?

(I'm running it myself but with an artisanally handcrafted jail)

Did the 15+1 length limit for netgraph node names get fixed recently or something? (or is it a per-node-type thing?)

Oooh, it got increased. Yay!

colectora: Error message? I'm running The Lounge too, currently (though will probably switch to Matrix + IRC bridge when I get around to it). I have it in a jail, but not using Bastille.

im trying to call make from a little shell script. how can i pass the dir with the makefile to make? i use -C already but that's to set the working dir

polyex: maybe see the '-f' option

bradd well i tried that, i set it to the makefile, and -C to the release dir path, but it errors that it can't find sys/sys/param.h but that's 1 dir level up, not off of the release dir

how can i fix that?

_xor: how much?

16 to 32

`#define NG_NODESIZ 32 /* max node name len (including null) */` @ sys/netgraph/ng_message.h:50

Mornin' all. Trying to upgrade ports from perl5.32 to perl5.34 but there is no /usr/ports/lang/perl5.32 directory present which prevents the `portmaster -o OLD NEW` invocation documented in /usr/ports/UPDATING from working. What do I do? Note perl5.34 as the default in /etc/make.conf, install perl5.34, and chase down broken packages?

hey

i wonder if it's possible to get ghostscript10 to be used with the latex environment provided by FreeBSD packages?

unfortunately it forces ghostscript9..

titou: afaiu, there's an upgrade in progress, but it's a bit tricky

oh :(

in fact if I force the installatin of ghostscript10 latex wont work right?

bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=273771 bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=273864

Title: 273771 – print/ghostscript: update port to 10.02.0

bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=272541 bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=273589

Title: 272541 – print/ghostscript10: DEFAULT_VERSION=ghostscript=10 cannot be used

good following what's written into the last link I can force deinstalling ghostscript9 and install gh10

and tex will still work !

i'll try

i made a script to call the script that makes a freebsd installer. like `sh mkisoimages.sh -b 'label' installer.iso .` but how can i replace label with a $VAR? doing that but keeping the ' ' is hard

i'm using csh fwiw but like portable solutions

unfortunately I don't know how to force the installation of ghostscript10 since even if I removed ghotscript9 it still want to remove texlive packages because it depends on gh9..

anyone reply before i got disconnected?

no

RE: my question about upgrading to perl5.34: portupgrade seems to work in the absence of a `lang/perl5.32` directory unlike portmaster, so I ended up going that route.

ok got it

there any way to see the label of an .iso file?

Can't I nowadays zfs send -R a pool from an FreeBSD machine to Linux?

I thought so due to OpenZFS (same upstream)

megaTherion: my guess would be: possibly. worth a try

meena: yup, thanks

megaTherion: great album

I'm using synth to compile packages and share them between different machines. Unfortunately a packages need rust. Thus synth tries to compile rust...

each time i'm trying to compile it my machine crashs and reboot

it seems that it uses too much memory

(I double checked for memory bug and it seems my RAM is ok)

what's the process to install freebsd into a separate disk from within a running freebsd system? is there a debootstrap equivalent or do I just newfs/untar

Sounds like a job for bsdinstall, maybe?

titou: how much ram (and swap) do you have? do you use non-default options for rust or dependencies of rust? maybe synth has some way to use already build packages from another repo and you could use rust from the official repos; if not, rust has a PORT_LLVM option so that it doesn't build its own llvm (as rust has some additional patches for llvm, but they shouldn't be that importent now)

nimaje: I have 16 Go of RAM and 8 Go of swap. Rust options are not updated (i use the default ones)

synth has an option which let it to download the FreeBSD binary packages which is enabled on my config. Unfortunately i never seen it downloading these packages (and for rust it tries to compile it..)

compiling rustc extremely ressource intensive

I would advise compiling on on a single core to avoid OOM

but you should expect >24h build time

this is what i tried

o m g..

I had it hand my build machine, which has 96GiB ram

I just want to compile clamav.. i don't care about rust

hm, rust builds fine for me with 16GB RAM and 2GB swap, I only close my webbrowser and I even allow poudriere to build two ports in parallel with 3 jobs each and it takes <1h, but probaly ccache plays a role in that on a intel core i5-4690 (cpu from 2014) (full dmesg if you are interested dmesgd.nycbug.org/index.cgi?do=view&id=6459)

hm thanks

hm, is "Use tmpfs for /usr/local" enabled for you? and "Use tmpfs for work area"?

I just found an issue about it on synth github page, I'm trying with this option disabled!

thanks :)

ah, wait no I upgraded my RAM some time ago because of electron and now have 32GB RAM, but before that with 16GB RAM rust build fine as I described and I don't expect it to ballon its resource requirements that much in the meantime

well i'll see if the problem came from the "tmpfs" usage or not..

with zfs send, are file attributes (ACLs, xattr...) always copied also without -R? (I guess so)

should be byte for byte identical, iirc

there any way to see the label of an .iso file?

file can do that

ty!!!

sadly it's not (yet?) implemented in github.com/wader/fq/blob/master/doc/formats.md

Title: fq/doc/formats.md at master · wader/fq · GitHub

:(

so in my script if i have $SUDO_USER what's the easiest way to get the user's $HOME (path)?

babz: that sounds like a really cool tool

and it's also a really nice framework to develop a custom binary parser

i wouldn't wanna do that in any language other Rust. well, okay, maybe erlang / elixir.

man i wanna learn rust but the ppl in charge seem mentally ill

does anyone else get duplicate lid open or lid close events when opening or closing the lid while viewing /var/run/devd.seqpacket.pipe? (cat /var/run/devd.seqpacket.pipe) it's not supposed to be doing that, right?

phrasing my question another way, does anyone else get ONLY single events and no double events?

just checked, I have

!system=ACPI subsystem=Lid type=\_SB_.LID_ notify=0x00

!system=ACPI subsystem=Lid type=\_SB_.LID_ notify=0x00

!system=ACPI subsystem=Suspend type=\ notify=0x03

... # suspend

!system=ACPI subsystem=Lid type=\_SB_.LID_ notify=0x01

... # resume

thx, VimDiesel

Hey all, a question from a BSD newbie, got some Linux XP, though. I've read Chapter 15 from the handbook about the boot process, but still not able to figure it out and wasn't able to find any info from the Net. I've a "server" with SAS drives on an LSI (I think) controller, which is not visible in the boot order (BIOS/UEFI). I've a flash card

reader connected and want to put the equivalent of Linux's /boot partition there in order to be able to load the kernel and boot the system. However, the /boot partition of BSD is the stage1 boot apparently that is not holding the kernel in it. Any suggestions how this should be configured? I prefer to have the root system on the drives in order to

have it in RAIDZ2

deragoth: so boot to raidz ;]

then you get zfs snapshots on your OS too

boot environments (bectl)

high availability (mirrored) OS drives is poorly implemented in linux, but freebsd does it in the installer out of the box

i use a pair of mirrored ssds (mirrored zpool), and then 4 drives in a zraid for my data pool

i previously tried to have linux boot from a usb stick when needed... the frequent failure of those usb sticks made me reconsider

I'm trying to achieve exactly this, but unfortunately the SAS drives are not visible in BIOS/UEFI and cannot be provided for boot, thus the need to move the "boot" partition to the flash drive and initiate the boot from there

the /boot partition on freebsd does contain the kernel

thanks babz. looks like you only have a duplicate event on close

deragoth: what exactly did you try?

deragoth: my server won't boot without 'hw.mfi.mrsas_enable=1' in my /boot/loader.conf

i have a server with fancy sas adapter

rhodium: initially i've tried to add all drivers, including the flash card in the RAIDZ2, but this limits the root space on 4gigs (the size of the card) that is not fine. This was done with Auto Guided root ZFS

I've tried manually to partition the drives, but with manual partitioning during the install, i'm missing the ZFS, only UFS and I don't want UFS.

does the installer see all the disks?

so wasn't able to exactly partition manually. Moreover, I've not been able to find info why am I not able to manually create ZFS during install (from the installer).

Yes, the installer sees all of them. Once you have any OS booted and you have the driver all disks are visible

they are not, only from the BIOS and the boot priority, which is enough for all the troubles :D

so setting up a separate /boot seems the way to do, but I'm not sure whether the installer can be easily convinced to do it

Demosthenex: checking your option now

RhodiumToad: yep, I'm struggling with doing so, thus coming here. I was thinking that I'm not doing something correctly, as it cannot be so complicated.

the installer isn't really capable of handling all the more weird combinations

deragoth: just check your /var/log/bsdinstall.log, there was a bug in 13.0 where zfs mirroring with EFI didn't write the second disk boot sector

(and I personally have little experience with the installer because I prefer to do stuff manually)

RhodiumToad: i don't mind doing that manually, but with my little to no XP with FreeBSD I'm totally not aware what to do. I can google the commands, but the architecture is not clear for me. Is it enough just to put the /boot on the flash card and leave the zroot on the SAS drives? Should I put swap on the flash too, or not? What should be the ZFS

configs of the drives, assuming I'm fine with the default installer options?

Demosthenex: checking this too now

just put /boot on the flash drive, on a small UFS file system. swap and zroot should be on the sas drives

you'll likely also need an ESP on the flash drive

don't create a freebsd-boot partition unless you have some reason to use legacy boot

RhodiumToad: mmmmmmm OK. So I should just use freebsd UFS for the flash, not the freebsd-boot and make a mount point /boot? ESP?

ESP = EFI service partition

i.e. partition type "efi"

ok, got that. Will try

basically, the ESP gets a copy of loader.efi (as /efi/boot/bootx64.efi or something configured via an efi boot manager)

then loader can read the kernel and modules from the /boot partition

Demosthenex: checking the SAS card currently will see if that option is needed in this case

RhodiumToad: working on your suggestion

Hmm, this is interesting

?

I figured I could do this, but thought it would take more time to figure it out than it actually did. I *think* I can assign a jail the same IP as the host and just forward specific ports on the host to ports bound within the jail.

Well, either the host IP or just 127.0.0.1 or something.

That would preclude the need for bridging, dhcp, etc.

Oh, still need to handle jail-initiated outbound traffic :/

Guess I could use ng_nat for that, but hmm...

if jails share same ip with host, does that mean any traffic going to host also passes to jails to snoop on too?

like in a dumb network hub

No, it would be port-specific. If a process within a jail is listening on 8080, then ipfw would be configured to forward 8080 on a host address to 8080 within the jail.

ahh

I also just realized that stateless outbound traffic from the jail shouldn't be an issue either since it'll just see it as a regular network interface.

Also, you can do all kinds of crazy filtering if you want with netgraph + ipfw (or pf) via ng_tag, which lets you view/modify mbuf tags (e.g. VLAN tags, MAC labels, firewall tags/cookies, etc).

What I'd love to be able to do is transparently forward host IP:PORT to 127.0.0.1:PORT within the jail.

I think you can do it with ng_ksocket.

Oh wow, this might actually work out. I think you can just create a ng_ksocket node for the host (ng_ether) and an ng_ksocket node for the jail (ng_eiface) and then connect their two hooks together.

Ok, I'm sold on ipfw + netgraph. I can pretty much do everything I want using those two.

better than pf?

Not sure if there's a better necessarily, but ipfw seems to have netgraph-specific features (e.g. ngtee) that pf doesn't seem to have currently.

what does netgraph do basically?

Networking subsystem that structures everything as graphs in a node with edges between the nodes (hooks), where there are a bunch of different node types (man ng_*).

It's a bit of a beast and not super well-documented, but it's really powerful.

what kinda stuff can you do with it?

Pretty much anything. It's basically a system to handle network frames/packets/whatever however you want.

Title: Using Netgraph for FreeBSD’s Bhyve Networking | Klara Inc

ty

That's not a bad article with a practical use-case (bhyve). There's also this PDF which is outdated, but still has lots of useful info (just need to check the man pages / source for what has changed since then)...

so in my script if i have $SUDO_USER what's the easiest way to get the user's $HOME (path)?

polyex: getent passwd $SUDO_USER | cut -d, -f6

polyex: getent passwd $SUDO_USER | cut -d: -f6

sorry the latter

that seems pretty indirect, damn

ty tho

can 1 service reload or restart another service? what would that look like, especially wrt privileges?

polyex: you're gonna have to write a service definition to reload / restart depending services. rc can't do it on its own

polyex, Perhaps you could say a little more detail about this XY Problem? I know you are trying to automate installation. Sure. And I have done that for me.

But it sometimes seems that you are fighting hard against specific problems that I have never run across myself in all of these years of doing system install and provisioning myself. You can probably see why I might be wondering why I have not run into those problems.

back, i miss anything?

no

i was just curious if i could make a program into a regular rc service, and when it runs sometimes it restarts another service, but how?

just run the command `service x restart` but it needs to sudo too?

CrtxReavr: yeah, i do that too. wonder how hard it would be to implement in cut

polyex: can you show us what you mean in code?

no i dont have any cuz i dont even know if it's possible. but just think if my app server wanted to be able to restart or reload nginx

I don't like that idea

why not?

your application server and the load balancer / TLS terminator are separated for a reason. so what is the reason you want to couple them?

well let's say the app that's running gives an endpoint for me to POST config updates, then the app integrates that config change into the server

so it sometimes needs to restart or reload other services

nginx has rich scripting facilities. you could send it a special (authenticated) request that it then reacts to, appropriately

ya but that's not my point

then what is your point? I can't read minds. I'm just an Ops person (of sorts) and when we hear things that break thru classic layers our gut reaction is: No

so restarting services is something only a human should do?

1 service can't ever restart another service or it's bad form?

that's not what I'm saying

what im saying is: breaking boundaries between well established layers of service abstraction needs to be well justified.

ok, got it, so assuming that, how can a service be coded to restart another service? is there api available or?

a service daemon can trigger the restart of services or service chains, but we don't really have that. so you could fall back on configuration management. but you shouldn't give a service power over another.

so a service can trigger the restart of another service, but you don't really have that? that's contradictory no?

I think it comes back to the XY thing rwp mentioned earlier

he made an assumption that this is related to automated installs but it's not. it's a separate questino

question

what problem, and i mean concrete problem are you trying to solve and why do you think it should be solved by having your application server restart the load balancer / TLS terminator, if which it is hopefully separated by jails?

it was just an example and i find your insistence that i prove my need for the feature abusive

i just want to know if, and how, services and restart others

they don't.

the whole point of separating services is so that they are separate. if they need that tight a coupling, then why are you separating them to begin with?

rc is a very simple tool, and it's not really good at anything you're asking about. You can use daemon, but daemon only handles one service, not service chains

services dont restart each other, you have to ensure they are started/stopped in the proper oreder

for boot shutdown, this handled by /etc/rc, which mostly relies on rcorder to parse the comments in {/etc,/usr/local/etc}/rc.d/* to build and flatten a dependency tree

babz what if 1 service mediates the update of the config of another service (or several)?

at runtime

then we're taking about a configuration manager, like Puppet, Chef, Salt or even something as sad and impoverished as Ansible

or a workload manager, something like Kubernetes or Nomad

ya

a cm agent let's say

those usually run as root, as such they have super powers

seems dangerous

of course it is. it's a configuration management system

how do they do the actual restart? do they just invoke the command `system x restart`?

In essence, yes

man that's wild. so if someone hacks arbitrary injection they send a 'rm -rf /' kinda command in and it runs it

Title: puppet/lib/puppet/provider/service/bsd.rb at main · puppetlabs/puppet · GitHub

some specialisation github.com/puppetlabs/puppet/blob/m…/puppet/provider/service/freebsd.rb but not much

Title: puppet/lib/puppet/provider/service/freebsd.rb at main · puppetlabs/puppet · GitHub

polyex: yes, that's why people like to review and CI test config management code before letting it loose on tens, hundreds or thousands of servers

that was the other part of DevOps, not just cool tools, but also useful practices

can bhyve run vms off of pxe boot/bootp instead of a local install image?

Title: Bhyve unattended installation with CBSD: PXE and cloud-init - YouTube

wooooooo

it's in Russian or an other eastern Slavic language i don't actually understand

but apparently the auto-translated subtitles are good enough

why are the Russian subtitles in English? or is this just a NewPipe bug?

what's newpipe?

it's an android app for accessing YouTube and other video services

and it does so without showing me ads, cuz I'm not a huge fan of ads, or surveillance capitalism, or Google. but, i repeat myself.

I like NewPipe.