Hello

Why would my internal microphone work?

i try rec -d test.wav

and there are silence

are those such that can be chosen? devices: vol, pcm, speaker, mic, rec, ogain

for example i try # mixer =rec ogain

mixer: unknown recording device: ogain

for none of them it worked

but how is that possible that a while ago it was rec devices: monitor

okay, that was with -f /dev/mixer1, but anyway, can't choose anything there

what is the difference between -f /dev/mixer0 and -f /dev/mixer1?

i found the output from /dev/sndstat

it says that i have pcm0 and pcm1, pcm0: <Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa) (Analog 2.0+HP/2.0)> (play/rec) default

pcm1: <Conexant CX20561 (Hermosa) (Internal Analog Mic)> (rec)

how is that chosen which one recording capability is being used?

how can i choose in SoX which device is used to record audio?

markmcb: add require statements as needed in services (you may have to do this after every upgrade…). jails ordering works differently. it depends on how you're managing jails

I'm running FreeBSD 14.0-BETA2. What is the bug report procedure? I tried to follow it, just got lost and went in circles.

you open bugs.freebsd.org and there you go. what was the problem with bugzilla you've ran into??

I don't think there is, I've never had to report an issue before.

ah ok

Title: Log in to FreeBSD Bugzilla

Yeah, I'm in there, searching now.

FreeBSD 14.0 USB goes into a connect/disconnect loop, seems to go away once dbus is started (sddm)

I'll sign up and go through the process ....thanks

Hi. This compile times are to much for me :)) Is it possible to reinstall the software on my freebsd system pkg based? system pkg based?

what are you compiling?

base system, or ports?

Ports.. everything pulls in another llvm version and then it takes hours

by all means install packages instead then

Ikr.. but i am not supposed to mix them and installed a bunch using portmaster already.. Could i reinstallthose using pkg?

you shouldn't really need

to

the "not supposed to mix them" isn't that important

the main problem with mixing them is the fact that the pkg repo lags behind the ports tree due to the time taken to build things, and the fact that it'll try and upgrade packages that you built with customized options, replacing them with defaults

if you didn't tweak the options, the packages you build locally are no different from the ones in the repo

I add pulseaudio support on some but after the 10th dialog i justhold enter because i dont care much anyways :)

Sort of defeats the purpose of freebsd as well

Might just not be for me :D

it doesn't defeat any "purpose of freebsd"

the fact that you _can_ compile everything yourself doesn't mean you're required to

KingShark: look into poudriere. it allows you to build your own local package repository for the ports you modify and have them take priority over upstream packages, but then use upstream packages for everything else

it's pretty flexible and is the official tool used to build the entire ports tree

that way you don't mix manually built ports with packages fetched via pkg

thanks :)

Hi. Why would ntpd not synchronize the time? ntdp_enable="YES" is in my /etc/rc.conf and a manual update via ntpdate would work

ntpd_enable?

also ntpd_sync_on_start="YES"

if i run service ntpd start now, should it do a sync?

if ntpd_sync_on_start="YES" is set in rc.conf, yes

thanks seems to work :) time is up to date

ntpd_sync_on_start is required if the clock might not be very close to correct on startup; it allows ntpd's first clock adjustment to exceed the normal step limits

Hi. Something i dont understand: I moved my /usr/home mountpoint to a second zfs pool on another disk. Yet when i check in Thunar, it shows the freespace of the first pool in that directory. Also when i do df -h, it does not show this mountpoint at all. zfs list shows it fine and correct though.

what does zfs list show exactly?

it sounds like you didn't actually mount it from the new pool

here a paste bsd.to/DDxK

Title: dpaste/DDxK (Plain Text)

zroot is pool#1 and data pool#2

i want /usr/home on pool#2 data :)

so it's not mounted, and the /usr/home you're seeing is the one on zroot

hey guys, i installed 14.0-BETA2 to check it out, and there is no portsnap anymore, any ideas how to get fresh ports? (and i didnt bother to get ports at install time as i inteded to use portsnap)

KingShark: check the properties on the new one? perhaps it has canmount=off ?

torindel: git

RhodiumToad: git isnt in base either

RhodiumToad: any tool to get fresh ports before installing anything via pkg?

RhodiumToad, i now did 'zfs set canmount=on data' and another 'zfs set mountpoint=/usr/home data' and tried to confirm via mount -a; mount but its not showing

'zfs mount' not showing it either

maybe the current /usr/home just resides in the /usr mount as a regular folder and blocks the mount?

or other question: will portsnap be back in 14.0-RELEASE or is it deprecated?

torindel: afaik it's deprecated

RhodiumToad, 'zfs mount -a' did the trick lol

How do i make it persistent?

zfs mount -a is run automatically at boot

as long as the properties don't disable it from being mounted, it'll mount at boot

KingShark: ensure you got zfs_enable="YES" in /etc/rc.conf and as RhodiumToad said you should be fine

doublechecked, is in rc.conf.. Well. Weird. I did not change much, i set the canmount=on for it (i dont know if it was on before).

seems to work fine now, i unmounted it again, re-mounted it and copied the files over

Will reboot for a try :)

reboot done; all good

torindel: portsnap is deprecated, maybe you can fetch(1)? freebsd really needs a tool in base to fetch stuff from git

side note: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/d…elopment/tarballs/ports_main.tar.xz <= how often ports tarball is updated? daily hopefully? or quaterly like older ones?

look at the file dates?

same date as ports_2023Q3.tar.xz

thats why im asking ;]

(and thats today)

the quarterly branch isn't fixed for the whole quarter, it's just updated less than the main one

oh ok, thx

torindel: if nothing else works :) github.com/freebsd/freebsd-ports, "code" -> "download zip"

Hi. Is it possible to reduce the screen resolution for tty terminals (ctrl+f1-f8) while keeping the xorg ttv9 untouched? :)

I like the size it has before starting xorg

Or loading the nvidia drivers, i guess thats actually changing the resolution :D

Wen will FreeBSD 14 come out

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I hope next week otherwise I install OpenBSD 7.3

vidcontrol -f terminus-b32 seems to work to achieve sort of what i wanted.. making the font bigger instead of the resolution smaller :D

psionic, i see dates up to late october in this freebsd.org/releases/14.0R/schedule . others will know better x)

Title: FreeBSD 14.0 Release Process | The FreeBSD Project

psionic: you can install beta and then update it to release when it's out, don't expect to be a lot of changes in there

is it having the same issue as netbsd? That after install when you use it for a while and they make a new release it keeps crying that the binary packages were compiled to version xyz, I really don't like that.

it starts crying when the release you are running is EOL

psionic: try out netbsd

we're waiting for netbsd 10 noe

now

from 9.3

I mean, you can always run NetBSD CURRENT if you don't wanna wait

meena: that *may* have stability issues and I wanted to deploy it on a server :)

meena: NetBSD RELEASE?

signalblue: FreeBSD.

ah

I usually only run RELeASE

RELEASE sorry

I'm in too deep in FreeBSD, and not nearly as deep in other BSD

RELEASE is the stablest one

are you deep in Linux/Debian?

nope. not for a long time by now

FreeBSD is a nice change of pace from that

I find Linux confusing when looking for source

(imagine my confusion then, when working on windows)

me too

looking for source?

like as in source code?

yes

there's also this - nomadbsd.org - never knew of it until now

having the entire base in one place is really useful

^^^

Unix stuff makes me dizzy. Windows is worse.

anyway, time to do dishes, then sit down an stare at some documentation, and attempt to write another function for a kernel driver before my brain goes bzzzzzzt

actually, I just got an idea. I'm gonna turn that driver into boilerplate and debugger code, and see what the client code does.

gosh, imagine if i had that idea 3 months ago

I might be half finished by now

put differently: imagine if I had a brain, or mentorship? I could be… at least mediocre.

Can it run the latest Arduino ide 2.x and sketchup?

psionic: freshports.org/search.php?query=Ard…t=1&casesensitivity=caseinsensitive i only see 1.x

How is the VirtualBox support is it somewhat degraded compared to linux?

Can I for example install a linux in vbox and use that for arduino programming

as I recall there was some usb support issue with fbsd

VirtualBox� can be configured to pass USB devices through to the guest operating system. The host controller of the OSE version is limited to emulating USB 1.1 devices until the extension pack supporting USB 2.0 and 3.0 devices becomes available on FreeBSD.

VirtualBox� can be configured to pass USB devices through to the guest operating system. The host controller of the OSE version is limited to emulating USB 1.1 devices until the extension pack supporting USB 2.0 and 3.0 devices becomes available on FreeBSD.

still?

Oracle Cloud FreeBSD successfully upgraded! yey!

psionic: you could use bhyve and pass through an USB… thing

I may have done a bad thing. I upgraded my zfs pools on beta2 and now I can't even get to the loader on boot. First message is: ZFS: unsupported feature: com.klarasystems:vdev_zaps_v2. Not sure if that's actually an error. Later I see ERROR: cannot open /boot/lua/loader.lua: no such file or directory. Not sure what to do.

markmcb: now you need to update the loader, using efi?

markmcb, u need to update boot loader

yes, using efi

boot from 14 iso, mount the esp partition and copy /boot/loader.efi to efi/freebsd/loader.efi on that esp

ok, will give that a shot. thanks!

(note that esp is fat32, use mount_msdosfs)

ok, thanks. and just curious, did i do something wrong? should freebsd-update have done this for me? or is this always a manual step?

don't think freebsd-update does that for you

we now have esp mounted by default in /boot/efi/, still neither installworld nor freebsd-update seem to update the loader

freebsd-update doesn't run zpool upgrade and doesn't update loader not in /boot/

zpool(8) really should check if bootfs is set and refuser to continue to upgrade unless --yes-i-really-know-what-im-doing is specified :D

refuse too

i moved loader.efi, but still getting the loader.lua error. copy that too?

moved it where?

efi/freebsd

on the efi partition

may be it's using the default one in efi/boot/bootx64.efi? try to copy /boot/loader.efi to that path as bootx64.efi

(efibootmgr -v would show what entry gets used and the paths)

ok, it is booting now. thanks!!!!

\o/

That was a fun moment of panic. I appreciate the help.

I'm curious, where is that documented? The handbook seems to imply freebsd-update upgrade/install does it all. The updating bootcode section is largely blank.

I see it in loader.efi(8), but seems the handbook should make a bigger callout for it.

not sure what changed, but in 14b2 any time i restart a jail that's using sriov for networking it takes a looooong time for the vf to become available. it effectively breaks "restart" as it simply fails when trying to start again.

seems to take 5-10 minutes on average

markmcb: which nic?

Chelsio T520-SO-CR

and which version worked?

13.2 would also exhibit delays, but more like 5-30 seconds

seems something is taking even longer to complete and jail restart is unaware of it and considers the stop job complete

fwiw, same behavior from a x710-da2