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dgriffi
anyone here run freebsd at linode?
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Erhard
BSDode
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markmcb
what is the goto VPS provider for freebsd? vultr?
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Erhard
Yuo get a three free forever ones from Oracle Cloud. But they aren't high spec
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Erhard
Kamatera and Contabo also run FreeBSD well.
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Erhard
But I am sure there are hundreds.
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meena
dgriffi: if it doesn't run, tell me, and I'll try to get it fixed in cloud-init
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dgriffi
I've been fiddling with freebsd on linode for a few years. lately I've been doing more on that machine with gitlab and I realized that the extreme slowdowns are because connections try to use ipv6, fail, then fall back to ipv4.
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dgriffi
so I fiddled with it some more and managed to complely break networking.
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dgriffi
so I reinstalled from scratch and I'm back to where I started.
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dgriffi
as far as I can tell, ipv6 is working. my machine just can't talk to anything using ipv6.
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meena
that's bizarre
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Erhard
What happnes when you mtr -6 to, say, google?
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meena
does linode / akamai have a free tier?
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dgriffi
"mtr"?
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Erhard
There are a lot of free offers for a limtied time and free $100 worth on linode
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dgriffi
morte_: not to my knowledge. I pay for my account.
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Erhard
It's a fancy traceroute, after using it you will never go back
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Erhard
You can use traceroute6
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Erhard
(the nox variety of mtr... uses ncurses)
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meena
dgriffi: it's "meena".
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dgriffi
traceroute6 to google.com (2607:f8b0:4005:813::200e) from 2600:3c01...
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dgriffi
so dns is giving me v6 addresses...
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dgriffi
but I'm getting three asterisks for each hop
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Erhard
I think that can be resolved using ipv4, though
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Erhard
I would check with linode and see what ip and gateway you are supposed to use for ipv6
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dgriffi
doing a ping6 of my ipv6 address works fine.
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Erhard
And if you should be using a static ip or dhcp6
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Erhard
From where? Locally ?
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Erhard
Do you have a default route for ipv6 ?
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dgriffi
over in #linode they told me to use fe80::1 for the gateway.
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dgriffi
Erhard: not sure. I couldn't figure out where to plug in the ipv6 gateway
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Erhard
I defer to someone else more expert in ipv6. I have oly set up a few systems with it.
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Erhard
There should be some tutorials online though, or in the handbook.
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dgriffi
Erhard: I've been combing throught them to no avail
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Erhard
Somehow you ened to get a default route in the routing table, and you need to have an ip configured. And then linode needs to be setup on there end to handle these... just like ipv4, just different ips.
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dgriffi
I found a bunch of them where I get down to the bottom and someone's posted "that doesn't work anymore for 13.x"
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Erhard
Do you use dhcp
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Erhard
?
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dgriffi
yes
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Erhard
And you have that configured for ipv6 ?
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Erhard
I think that is a separate setting, IIRC.
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Erhard
Again, I am no expert on ipv6
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dgriffi
not sure
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dgriffi
the tutorials I've found are all really vague
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Erhard
On a ipv6 vps I have this is how it is setup in rc.conf
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Erhard
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VimDiesel
Title: dpaste/UBLq (Plain Text)
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Erhard
USe your ip of course.
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Erhard
I found a slightly older post saying you needed the dhcp client from ports to do ipv6, but I bet that is no longer the case. I do not know, though.
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Kangie
Hi All. I'm hoping that someone can help me understand why 'ifconfig mlxen0 -vlanhwtso' doesn't seem to have any impact on my ConnectX-3 card (mlx4en driver)? FWIW I'm on opnsense; so I'll happily wait for someone in that community respond if that's more appropriate.
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skered
kevans: Oh ok so _TIMEOUT isn't in the picture at all now.. good.
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kevans
skered: right, now it's more closely aligned with how libfetch timeout worked
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kevans
with the somewhat subtle difference that it's now possible for a transfer to be so slow that we consider it for timeout still
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concrete_houses
so why did chrome get booted?
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concrete_houses
something about ad blocker
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ScottTheGeek
People use Chrome? :P
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TommyC
concrete_houses: google said they were going to remove ad blocker addons or something like that (essentially they were going to disable adblockers somehow)
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TommyC
people don't want to get free viruses and find out about single moms near them so everyone jumped ship from chrome
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TommyC
seems the Windows people are somewhat divided amongst Opera GX and firefox atm
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ScottTheGeek
Opera is just a re-skinned Chrome as far as I'm concerned
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TommyC
ScottTheGeek: I think that's regular opera. Opera GX is their new "gaming" browser or whatever
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RhodiumToad
booted?
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ScottTheGeek
Does GX actually use a different rendering engine/core?
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AlaskanEmily
I think it's purely some shell adjustments.
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AlaskanEmily
Also I think it includes some cryptowallet by default stuff too?
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TommyC
ScottTheGeek: I've no idea, I've used firefox since elementary school (that was like firefox 3.0 or something)
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ScottTheGeek
why does everything have to be "crypto" or "blockchain". It's getting tired.
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ScottTheGeek
I've used Netscape -> Phoenix -> Firebird -> Firefox
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TommyC
oh yeah, I forgot about netscape
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TommyC
but that was back when I was just learning to type on Windows 95
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ScottTheGeek
the DNA is still there in Firefox
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ScottTheGeek
Heh, I just created a WFW3.11 vm for shits and giggles today
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ScottTheGeek
I learned to type on a Commodore PET
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grahamperrin
egl: a nit: "pools" (not "zpools"). It's a common misnomer.
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concrete_houses
lol
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bapt
RhodiumToad: ping
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RhodiumToad
?
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bapt
do you have the ability to test a patch?
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bapt
for the CPU and memory extra consumption of pkg?
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RhodiumToad
sure
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bapt
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bapt
put that in your ports-mgmt/pkg/files
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bapt
and tell me if it helps in your case
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RhodiumToad
ok, will do. need a few minutes
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bapt
thanks
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RhodiumToad
ugh, "process with pid 783 still holds the lock" - is that from pkg or sqlite?
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RhodiumToad
I'm guessing sqlite
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RhodiumToad
dammit, anyone know offhand how to force sqlite to break that lock? pid 783 is an unrelated process
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RhodiumToad
(the old problem of a low PID being allocated to a long-running daemon after reboot, confusing anything that uses pids as part of a locking protocol)
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parv
If PID is being read from a file, remove the file?
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RhodiumToad
it seems not to be a separate file
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bapt
this is pkg telling you that ?
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RhodiumToad
yeah
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bapt
pkg shell SELECT pid FROM pkg_lock_pid;
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bapt
pkg shell "SELECT pid FROM pkg_lock_pid;"
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RhodiumToad
hm, different pid now, but that's because I just tried pkg add again and got an OOM kill on it
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RhodiumToad
this is pre-patch
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bapt
ok
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RhodiumToad
just getting a baseline before testing the patched one
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bapt
sure
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bapt
maybe make a baseline based on 1.19* :D
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RhodiumToad
I don't think I have a package of that handy on this vm
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RhodiumToad
ok, the package that was OOMing on 1.20.1 can now be added fine, with ~85MB max rss used according to time -l
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RhodiumToad
tried a more complex package with more dependencies and the max rss was ~90MB
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RhodiumToad
ok, at a convenient moment I'll restart the poudriere build I have going in another VM and try it with this patch, see if it helps the speed of _depends phases
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bapt
from my testing pkg 1.20.2 + my patch is as fast as pkg 1.19.*
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parv
RhodiumToad, bapt, Are you testing anything specific in "pkg"?
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RhodiumToad
cpu and memory usage in pkg add
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RhodiumToad
(as used heavily by poudriere, and ports builds)
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parv
Thank you
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martinrame
Hi, any smb4 expert out there?.
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martinrame
I need to create a passwordless share and I've tried everything, but the server allways asks for a password.
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mage
you need to setup Samba for this
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mage
SMB* stuff in BASE are totally outdated
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martinrame
mage: yes of course. I have samba running on this server for more than a year.
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martinrame
But now I need to setup a passwordless share
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mage
isn't setting public = yes sufficient?
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martinrame
mage: apparently no.
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martinrame
mmm, I think I found the culpit!: "reject guest session as encryption is required
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martinrame
yes!
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grahamperrin
> pkg: No SRV record found for the repo 'FreeBSD'
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grahamperrin
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VimDiesel
Title: mRjA
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grahamperrin
I assume that the message is informational (not a warning). True? ▲ bapt
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bapt
this is a warning
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bapt
pkg -vv
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bapt
I need the full description of the repositories
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bapt
right
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bapt
you change the url of the FreeBSD repo
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bapt
but you have kept the mirror type to SRV
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bapt
so it cannot work
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bapt
I decided to make pkg more strict in that area starting 1.20, because of too many reports of people messing up like you right now
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duncan_bayne
Hey :) Just trying a fresh install of 13.2 and the virtualbox-qt package seems to be gone. Is there an obvious way of viewing package history that I'm missing? Looking to see the history of why / how it got removed (with an eye to figuring out when it might be back ;) )
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duncan_bayne
Can't find any relevant history in the Github ports mirror
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mage
ZFS question: have there been any improvements regarding concurrent snapshot/delete/bookmark/cursor between FreeBSD 12.x and FreeBSD 13.x?
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mage
I'm asking this because for some unknown reason zrepl is super slow with ZFS 12.x (STEPPING takes forever)
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» grahamperrin can not join #pkg
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Demosthenex
hrm. so i'm setting up ejabberd, and i got an acme cert, but on startup ejabberd is complaining it doesn't recognize the CA which issued the cert. so that means ejabberd isn't understanding /etc/ssl/certs. i added the ca_root_nss package, and tried pointing the ca_file to /etc/ssl/cert.pem, and stil no dice.
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Demosthenex
i did confirm the let's encrypt cert is in /etc/ssl/certs, and have run certctl rehash, still doesn't recognize
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meena
Demosthenex: that new?
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Demosthenex
well ejabberd has built in acme now, so i don't need other tools
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Demosthenex
the cert works. thats ok
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Demosthenex
its just ejabberd logging a message that it doesn't recognize the root ca
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Demosthenex
and despite adding the ca_root_nss package, and tryign to use ca_file /etc/ssl/cert.pem, it still doesn't recognize it
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meena
Demosthenex: so… if it works, then what CA store is it using?
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meena
is ejabberd linked against OpenSSL?
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Demosthenex
i'm honestly not sure. it doesn't tell me :P
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bapt
RhodiumToad: tested on the freebsd cluster, 3 times faster
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bapt
that is imho good enough for a 1.20.3
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ridcully_
Demosthenex: shot in the dark: might be using what erlang is giving it
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RhodiumToad
bapt: it's looking better inside poudriere, too
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bapt
this is poudriere in the cluster
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RhodiumToad
well, I meant in my own tests
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Demosthenex
ridcully_: not sure what that would be. i tried a few times, and since it doesn't seem to prevent it from working, maybe it doesn't matter ;]
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RhodiumToad
bapt: regarding provides/requires in principle, did you see what I said yesterday about having two packages with the same provides?
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bapt
RhodiumToad: yes but it they are incompatible then we as a project should not allow both to have the same soname
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RhodiumToad
think /usr/local/lib/guile/2.2/extensions/libfoo.so and /usr/local/lib/guile/3.0/extensions/libfoo.so
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RhodiumToad
relying on sonames that are unique independently of paths is what got Windows a bad name, let's not make the same mistake
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bapt
then libfoo.so should never ever be in the shlibs_provide
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RhodiumToad
right, but I didn't put it there, something in the port build did
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bapt
there is a knob for that
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RhodiumToad
which is?
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bapt
BUNDLE_LIBS=yes
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bapt
we should have something more fine grain
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RhodiumToad
from its description, that's nothing like what's appropriate here
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bapt
it is
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RhodiumToad
this isn't a bundled lib, this is exactly what the port is building
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bapt
is prevent the libs to be put in shlibs_provided
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bapt
btw why /usr/local/lib/guile/2.2/extensions/libfoo.so has a soname?
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RhodiumToad
because the upstream's build procedure did it?
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RhodiumToad
but in fact it needs one, because of its clients, one of them needs to link it directly
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RhodiumToad
(while the other one dlopen's it)
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bapt
you have things directly linked to it?
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RhodiumToad
yes (using rpath, so not needing it to be anywhere that ldconfig has to deal with)
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bapt
yes shlibs_provides should only be for packages with USES_LDCONFIG
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RhodiumToad
ah. in this case I can probably turn that off
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RhodiumToad
ok, that's useful, because it had USE_LDCONFIG from when a version installed into /usr/local/lib directly
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RhodiumToad
had to move that to avoid a conflict
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RhodiumToad
that doesn't explain how it ended up with a shlibs_provide that wasn't in the ldconfig default directory, though?
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RhodiumToad
shouldn't it be looking only for shared libs in such dirs, and assuming ones elsewhere are not suitable for _provide?
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debdrup
Freaky: Jessica (using her as an example, although there are others) has a bunch of commits mentioning GENERIC_LIBCOMBAT which include "commit <hash>" in the log description; is it possible that something can match on that and make them into links?
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kenrap
(She did a pretty good job finding and cleaning out that COMPAT stuff in those commits imo)
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Freaky
debdrup: I've made it match on "commit <hash>" and on anything that looks sufficiently like a hash (a-f and at least one number)
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VVD
Is it possible to "Maintainer timeout" this PR:
bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=271499 ?
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VimDiesel
Title: 271499 – porters-handbook/versions: missing entry for LLVM 13 for stable/13
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debdrup
Freaky: thanks!
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hwpplayer1
hi FreeBSD people !
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RhodiumToad
hello
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skered
kevans: Just need that in a release now... My vbox builder was able to get thru the 30s gauntlet so I'm good for now.
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kevans
skered: it's in 1.20.3 that just dropped within the last 12 hours
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concrete_houses
why is node so popular?
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concrete_houses
does node work on freebsd?
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concrete_houses
java script seems hell
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concrete_houses
too many MBA looking a gui as fancy toy? not thing to indicate what customer wants?
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RhodiumToad
node is available as a package or port
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» RhodiumToad wouldn't use it, but it gets pulled in as a dependency by stuff he does use
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concrete_houses
any adivce to get job now in boston toad?
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concrete_houses
this market seems tight
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concrete_houses
are we going into recession deeper?
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markmcb
anyone have insights on why rpi-firmware lags so much (about 2 years from upstream)? it's not clear if it's just "no one's done it" or if there's a blocker.
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markmcb
or maybe a better question, where should i look to try to answer that myself? mailing lists?
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markmcb
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VimDiesel
Title: RPi4 Status and sysutils/rpi-firmware
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concrete_houses
what pkg lets libreoffice do spellcheck?
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concrete_houses
are 1 page resumes with financial rsult better?
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kevans
markmcb: I mean, we kinda pull changes as something pertinent looking happens (as it's brought to attention)
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concrete_houses
liek savce 4mil or gaine 5mil
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kevans
although with -current and maybe 13.2 we could maybe start tracking upstream rpi-firmware instead of our custom one, or at least more closely than we do now
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concrete_houses
why is firefox slow and sluggish when freebsd report 0.5 load avg?
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concrete_houses
swap 10g free
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concrete_houses
i am maxing upload network with torrents
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concrete_houses
but sometime sfox fast
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kevans
oh wait
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markmcb
kevans: for me it's the missing overlay for the rpi-poe-plus device (PoE+ Hat)
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kevans
I'm thinking of psci monitor
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concrete_houses
is there a free software version of single isgn on with keys?
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markmcb
if you're talking web, i use and like authelia
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Oleg
Guys, do you know why only "/dev/input/event0: System keyboard multiplexer" shows "events" when keys are typed, but "/dev/input/event5: Generic USB+PS2 Keyboard" doesn't show "events"?
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Oleg
for example,
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Oleg
Event: time 1689110005.359786, type 1 (EV_KEY), code 42 (KEY_LEFTSHIFT), value 1
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Oleg
when I use evtest, this type of information gets displayed for /dev/input/event0
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Oleg
but /dev/input/event5 has zero reaction.
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Oleg
I am asking this because when I use kodi on the bare console, the keyboard is fully unresponsive unless I delete /dev/input/event5. But even with /dev/input/event0, I have problems using the keyboard in the kodi player.
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Oleg
RhodiumToad: maybe you know something about it
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Oleg
If both /dev/input/event0 and /dev/input/event5 exist, the keyboard is completely unresponsive in the kodi player.
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Oleg
If I delete /dev/input/event5, kodi reacts to the keyboard, but often not in a completely appropriate way.
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Oleg
Is there anything I can do to make /dev/input/event5 to gain access to "events"?
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Oleg
"/dev/input/event6: DELL DELL USB Laser Mouse" doesn't have this kind of issue. it behaves appropriately in kodi.
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Oleg
folks?
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Oleg
Maybe I could edit devd.conf to make /dev/input/event5 my primary "event" device?
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Oleg
"cat /dev/input/event5" doesn't produce garbage characters when I type any key
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Oleg
I don't get it.
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Oleg
Why is the keyboard multiplexer (/dev/input/event0) responsive but the "generic usb+ps2 keyboard" isn't?
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Oleg
I think kodi specifically wants the "generic keyboard" to be responsive when it's run on the bare console.
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Oleg
I don't understand why /dev/input/event6 (the dell mouse) is an active device, but /dev/input/event5 (the generic usb keyboard) isn't.
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Oleg
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VimDiesel
Title: KBDMUX(4) - keyboard multiplexer
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Oleg
It says "The kbdmux keyboard driver provides support for basic keyboard multiplexing. It is built around the idea of a “super keyboard”. The kbdmux driver acts as a master keyboard consuming input from all slave keyboards attached to it."
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Oleg
so, /dev/input/event5 is not responsive because it's a "slave keyboard" device?
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Oleg
if I add hint.kbdmux.0.disabled="1" to /boot/device.hints, will the "slave" generic usb keyboard become a "master" keyboard?
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Oleg
or will it simply stop functioning?
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Oleg
clearly, there is something kodi doesn't like about the fact that kbdmux is a "master" keyboard.
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Oleg
I am gonna reboot with this hint.kbdmux.0.disabled="1" thing enabled to find out whether it will resolve my problem or make it worse.
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Oleg
I don't get it.
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Oleg
the kbdmux event device is gone, but the problem remains the same.
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Oleg
and now I can't even use the keyboard when running a wayland compositor.
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Oleg
okay, so I re-enabled the kbdmux device.
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Oleg
but I don't know what to do now.
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Oleg
I am out of ideas.
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concrete_houses
I am on hp z240 with icewm and firefox and life is good 13.2
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concrete_houses
is openbsd.org better as firewall n router?
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markmcb
all comes down to what you want to do. i tend to recommend OPNsense to people. freebsd core with a nice webui.
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foxiepaws
it really depends on what you like and know
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foxiepaws
opnsense is nice enough.
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foxiepaws
i've been using plain freebsd for years as my router, never had any issues with it. i like the version of pf on freebsd, and its my preferred firewall so i use that. All my other servers use freebsd as well so it helps me keep everything up to date and easy to manage because i'm not managing multiple OS