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» RhodiumToad wtfs
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RhodiumToad
so autofs/special_media works by parsing kern.conf.geomdot?
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RhodiumToad
kern.geom.confdot
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parv
.oO( That's a new-to-me MIB )
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meena
if we had a dot or xml parser in base
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RhodiumToad
I was trying to figure out why it showed me some labels but not others; it turns out it ignores glabel and uses the labels obtained via fstyp instead
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RhodiumToad
kern.geom.confdot is actually pretty awesome; feed it into dot and convert to svg and you get a diagram of your entire geom topology
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RhodiumToad
but parsing it in a shell script is a bit ... eww
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meena
but we don't have dot in base, yes, that
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RhodiumToad
right, you want the graphviz package for that
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meena
that the only thing that can deal with the dot format?
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RhodiumToad
no idea
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meena
if there was a lua parser that would be cool
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meena
extremely cool
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meena
I wonder how hard it would be to implement
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RhodiumToad
parsing in lua without lpeg is a bit of a pain
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RhodiumToad
I don't know anything about how easy dot is to parse
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paulf
probably not difficult but what are you going to do with it once parsed?
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meena
there's a bunch of xml parsers.
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meena
paulf: imagine this: doing things in not sh
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paulf
would rather use sh than write a graph router
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beladona
Hi
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beladona
I cannot boot. Disk got full. I rebooted. It now says zroot got unrecoverable errors and has been suspended. What can be done here?
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V_PauAmma_V
Boot installation media, then choose the "live" option. That will give you a root shell in which you can enter troubleshooting commands to narrow down the cause, then (hopefully) recovery commands to fix whatever caused it.
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beladona
Ok.. doing
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rwp
beladona, Should as assume this is a single disk zfs installation?
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V_PauAmma_V
(Someone with more ZFS experience than me may be able to guide you through troubleshooting.)
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beladona
Encrypted raid. Will use geli
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rwp
+1 for V_PauAmma_V's suggestion to boot a live boot and then assemble it. I had to do that myself recently.
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beladona
V_PauAmma_V rwp It was raid 0. How to decrypt via geli and live cd?
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rtprio
you would need to attach the geli volume and import the pool by hand
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beladona
rtprio which vol? I have 2 drives on raid 0
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rtprio
you'd need both, obviously. also raid0"
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rtprio
is probably why it failed
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RhodiumToad
you can use gpart show to list all partitions on all drives
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RhodiumToad
then use geli attach daNpX on each one that needs decrypting
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rtprio
if you're going to use geli you should really be comfortable with this process
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RhodiumToad
hm. well, the installer does offer an option to use geli encrypted zfs.
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RhodiumToad
so you can get to this point without knowing the geli commands
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rtprio
that's a news to me. but raid0... i hope there's nothing important on this system
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uskerine
Is there any ongoing conversation on how the fact that FreeBSD has zero capabilities in the HPC and AI area might impact its future capacity to survive?
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uskerine
I know it is an old fact, but this year seems that there is sort kind of turning point on that
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rtprio
i doubt very much if anyone cares
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uskerine
I am asking because I am assuming -maybe wrongly= that in this channel there will be people who really drive the path of FreeBSD
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uskerine
not just mere users like I am
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rtprio
for ai. as for HPC... how do yo ucome to the conclusion that there are 'zero capabilities'
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uskerine
well, the HPC is migrating to GPU computing
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uskerine
AI is all about DeepLearning and now LLMs, which again is GPU
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uskerine
NVIDIAs are not supported (for CUDA) in FreeBSD
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rtprio
fuck llms. next question.
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uskerine
so essentially anyone who would want to use FreeBSD as a platform for AI can't
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RhodiumToad
iirc, the lack of cuda support in freebsd is up to nvidia, who supply the driver
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rtprio
people here aren't going to drive nvidia to support cuda.
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uskerine
RhodiumToad: I think that NVIDIA has released the drivers as open source, so it would be adapting them, so I am not 100% sure that what you are describing is the case. However this seems fuzzy to me
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uskerine
I might be totally wrong, I am just unsure on what is missing/needed
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rtprio
nvidia to release working drivers. people who care enough about llms to get them working on freebsd to put some time into making them work.
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uskerine
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VimDiesel
Title: GitHub - NVIDIA/open-gpu-kernel-modules: NVIDIA Linux open GPU kernel module source
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rtprio
and freebsd will survive if regardless of it supporting ai/hpc
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rtprio
you can't just slap a linux driver in freebsd an expect it to work
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uskerine
RhodiumToad: I do not know if you are curious enough to have had a look to that github, but it seems that the "information" -for Linux- is there, so it would be a porting effort (something which obviously is not at reach of all mortals)
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uskerine
I know that rtprio, I was just asking if there was such discussion now, I have read in google that it has been discussed in the past
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RhodiumToad
video driver porting is not something I have either the time or the facilities for
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uskerine
I am by no means asking you to port RhodiumToad , it was a general question, not a request
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uskerine
petition or suggerence, why shall I do that? My contribution to FreeBSD is inexistant, I am a mere user
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rtprio
maybe ask in -drivers or -hackers if that open-gpu is of any use to kernel developers
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uskerine
well I am sure they are aware of the existence
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RhodiumToad
afaik, at one time someone was working on cuda support, I don't know how far it got
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uskerine
I guess either is a very complex task to be done by just one person or there has not been the combination of someone with the skills and the interests for having NVIDIA GPUs working
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uskerine
the point is that no matter how hype on LLMs there is, it is clear that DeepLearning has arrived to stay and likely grow
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rtprio
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VimDiesel
Title: DevSummit/201810 - FreeBSD Wiki
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markmcb
new to compiling my own ports. i noticed in a lot of people's make.conf files they have a OPTIONS_SET item, but i don't see this mentioned in make.conf(5). am i looking in the right place?
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RhodiumToad
markmcb: it's described in one of the ports makefiles
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markmcb
thanks
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RhodiumToad
see ports/Mk/bsd.options.mk
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RhodiumToad
note that some OPTIONS_* vars are only supposed to be set by the port itself, while others are only supposed to be set in make.conf
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markmcb
appreciate the direction, i'll check it out
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RhodiumToad
personally I use the cat_port_OPTIONS_[UN]SET vars exclusively to configure ports, rather than using the options dialog
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RhodiumToad
er, cat_port_[UN]SET= etc.
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RhodiumToad
I once wrote a make command line to output the cat_port_SET= settings for a list of ports, but I don't think I have it now; I lost a bunch of old irc logs to a thumb drive that scragged itself