Heh

"/usr/src/usr.sbin/bhyve/bhyverun.c:1609:7: error: called object type 'int' is not a function or function pointer"

"err(EX_OSERR, "Unable to restore time");"

Should probably mark that one down as another potential issue.

That's WITH_BHYVE_SNAPSHOT=yes, I believe.

Gah, I need lib32 installed to *build* lib32?

firefox bugs recently have been a killer

when sndio is installed (not running, just installed), then youtube has no audio

and also webrtc

which is a bit of a killer

Title: 270436 – www/firefox: 111.0⋯: no sound after upgrade

if I pkg delete -f sndio then its fine

manually setting ffox options media.cubeb.backend=oss isn't sufficient

daemon, I believe socat will proxy between ipv4 and ipv6. Give socat a look. "socat tcp-listen:2222 tcp:example.com:22" then connections to port 2222 will get proxied to the address given, IPv4 or IPv6 either way. Or the reverse.

rwp: thanks, I think that one was for me

dch: Is SNDIO on for your firefox package?

For me at least, firefox-111.0.1_1,2 with SNDIO=on and sndio-1.9.0 installed. Sound still works for me, so maybe options/hardware combo or something? I'm not actually using SNDIO iirc..

_xor: its the default pkg, so yes

rwp: socat was perfect, even comes with an rc.d script

I do remember having to do `sysctl hw.snd.default_auto=1` and `sysctl hw.snd.vpc_mixer_bypass=0` in my case. I'm using USB headphones. Previously I was using bluetooth, but that was a PITA. Going to re-visit when blued is integrated.

whats the latter sysctl for?

So I could use mixer apps like dsb and (I think) playerctld (though can't remember if that's another that required that sysctl).

Needed to map my media keys and it only worked with vpc_mixer_bypass=0, which makes sense.

I remember figuring out, again in my case, that virtual_oss was conflicting with the kernel dsp device. I think they were competing, so I disabled virtual_oss after switching for bt to usb.

ok

ok its 4am here i need to sleep welp

nite

Anyone else getting errors from GitHub now? Repos not accessable etc.

hi

hi leapfrogg

_xor: also note that should != does, while HEAD and CURRENT should always compile it can happen, that they don't, as well as ports should also build in unclean envs, but sometimes they don't

Hmm, strange...

`bmake: "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk" line 1207: UNAME_r (1302505) and OSVERSION (1302505) do not agree on major version number.`

...but...they're...the exact same?

Nevermind, figured it out. Name of the poudriere master jail has to conform to MAJOR.MINOR-(RELEASE|STABLE|whatever). I was setting it to the exact version returned by `uname -K -U`

if i'm current CURRENT, should i actually be building my own kernels weekly or something? i didn't realize that it wasn't like "rolling release" when i installed it. now i am having version troubles with ports and jails

maybe better to install a release instead, but if you want to continue running current you should read docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/cutting-edge and maybe that helps you to decide

Title: Chapter 25. Updating and Upgrading FreeBSD | FreeBSD Documentation Portal

trev: what "version troubles"?

Hello. The bug with ZFS discussing in CURRENT mailing list with subject "git: 2a58b312b62f - main - zfs: merge openzfs/zfs@431083f75" affects only CURRENT branch, right?

yes

yuripv thank you

yuripv: i made a jail with CURRENT to build a port and it doesn't like that there is a kernel mismatch (host system older than jail). I suppose i can make a release jail and build the port like that?

or update my kernel, but that will require building from source

afaik a release jail should work as long as your system was build with the right compat_freebsd and afaik all of them are on by default, so you should know if you deselected them

i will just build latest current and go for a walk

sounds more productive, and besides, i need to get my feet wet with bsd

gpg: agent_genkey failed: No such file or directory. What could go wrong?

Probably I need additional software?

anyone got a big chunk of hardware sitting idle they wanna donate?

could'nt freebsd foundation help out?

if you're near christiansburg, va, us i know where you can get a whole statck of poweredge r710's (8x) for like 300$i just didnt want to make that drive and bought off ebay instead

daemon: yesno,, they'll be doing their own releases, and they have a very different process

rustyaxe: I am in Ireland and I am not actually allowed to touch real hardware with my own real hands

Also, i don't have $300, or i wouldn't be looking for sponsorship

meena, is there any special kind of hardware that is needed?

just amd64 and a boatload of space ;p

with ideally both ipv4 and ipv6

RoyalYork: codeberg.org/pkgbase/website/src/br…h/main/howto/howdo.md#prerequisites last Hardware i had

Title: website/howdo.md at main - website - Codeberg.org

I've had more storage than that, and more CPU than that, but I've also had less

I only have an older optiplex 3010 kicking around. i3 3220 with 8gb ram and 500gb hd

probably not enough OOMPF for what you need

(and, yes, it needs to be amd64, right now, because of the way poudriere does builds, aarch64 isn't sorted yet)

I might have another project that wants hosting in a few months, ill let you know if the same situation as last time arises

I'll msg you my email address

RoyalYork: 👍

i might have some hardware coming my way (read: get ssh access) but it's not clear if and when,

ls

hello all

so I've read the man page several time but I can't figure out, is there a way to use mtree to report what in the spec that's not in the filesystem and what's in the file system that's not in the spec?

crb_: -c?

mount_msdosfs has -L, can you set it to UTF-16?

I suppose since the locale is not in /usr/share/locale, it cant be done (i've read nothing about how locales work)

Hi folks, I've hit the nightmare scenario - my email server has massive disk corruption (I think QEMU force shut-down the VM instead of a graceful sync)

Even sshd is corrupt, but I can access a local terminal and freebsd-update seems to run

IDS tells me almost everything is corrupt

Is there some way of using IDS to restore the files?

Or any other way, including extracting base.txz on top of the current /

FreeBSD 13.2, UFS+SU

BaloneyGeek: restoring which files?

meena: Literally everything, i.e., an in-place reinstall

Stuff in /sbin for example

BaloneyGeek: ah okay, I thought you meant the mail server's data files

No, the maildirs seem to be intact thankfully

you can run freebsd-update -r FreeBSD-13.2-RELEASE upgrade and see what that'll do

I mean, the sole fact that the kernel still boots means something, right?

not sure what, but, yeah

I already tried freebsd-update. It wanted to delete everything in /etc

why??

No clue :-P

I suspect some binary which it uses to find a filelist is broken

I just extracted base.txz and am trying to copy it over to /

ah, yeah, cmp/diff could be borked

wait a sec

what did fsck say about all this?

YESS, just extracting base.txz made sshd start

fsck found a metric crapton of broken files, broken journal, and decided to do a full restore

I mean full fix

and it wasn't enough?

No, clearly files got truncated, overwritten or something

I have no idea what happened

this is super bizarre, because having this amount of files corrupted means they must've been in flight while the disk was forced off

Yeah

My local user's zfs history is apparently corrupt

I'm fairly sure I've lost email

I'm running sudo freebsd-update -F --currently-running 13.1-RELEASE upgrade -r 13.2-RELEASE now just to be sure

Is UFS still properly maintained?

Since the physical machine that runs this VM is running ZFS I decided to use UFS in my VM

Nope, freebsd-update is still broken: I get a bunch of lines that go "/usr/sbin/freebsd-update: cannot open files/.gz: No such file or directory"

And then it wants to delete everything in /etc as it is no longer in FreeBSD 13.2-RELEASE

BaloneyGeek: yes. Netflix mostly used UFS

*uses*

I probably wouldn't try to use a known extremly broken system to fix itself

👍

pc froze while doing a poudriere build after building and upgrading to latest CURRENT :\

nimaje: Yes, I need to get just enough of it running that I can use doveadm sync to move mail to another server

mount the disk from the host system?

Host system is Linux :-/

ok, already wondered why you use qemu and not bhyve

Well, if host was also FreeBSD I'd use a jail

This is a question - do you know if rsyncing my maildirs is enough to migrate from one dovecot server to another, or do I really need to use doveadm sync?

BaloneyGeek: i would ask this in #dovecot

Yeah, just wondered if anyone here knew :-P

Mail server is up and actually receiving new emails so I think I have some time to fix things

another crash...time to install RELEASE!

trev: report the crash first!

frantically googling how to get a crash dump

it's in the handbook

ch 10, got it

would a kernel panic take me to a black screen or just be a freeze?

you should be dropped into the debugger, iirc

then it must not be a panic

or maybe a reboot, but pretty sure not just a freeze or a black screen

yeah, figured so.

maybe just the system is locked up for a while. i could wait longer and see

high ram usage?

lol froze instantly that time

what kind of system is this?

my desktop

amd64

freezing while building ports inside a amd64 jail

next time try pkg install :P

i was doing that and someone recommended to build ports in a jail to not muck up the main system

ah, yes building packages, so high ram and high cpu usage

trev: pkg install installs binary packages from the main repo

i know

the thing i want isn't there

only in ports

oh? what's that thing?

Title: Poudriere memory exhaustion | The FreeBSD Forums

basically my problem :[

meena: kitty terminal

bloated piece of python shat but it works nicely

so why do you expect to build it?

welp

guess i am stuck with st for nwo

checkout bugzilla if there's a bug, checkout upstream is there's a bug there

Title: Bug List

hm, "/usr/local/include/X11/extensions/Xge.h:2:14: error:" why wasn't the dependency bringing that file failing to build instead?

Title: 270703 – x11/kitty: Update to 0.27.1

thanks meena. shouldn't i have this patch though?

or it's not accepted yet into current ports?

trev: it's not committed yet

this is making me wonder if i even need a gpu-enabled terminal emulator...

at least i now know how to limit tmpfs mem in poudriere

So, no IRC client and bloat like that then?

msiism: weechat

y'all don't wanna know what I use as IRC client

Pidgin?

the lounge

yupp

now we know where all those fancy emojis come from

from my android keyboard, mostly

I only see those as blocks of hex code. But then, I'm also using HexChat.

pidgin's alright, I like how it has good OTR support if you install the plugin.

Yeah, I only went for HexChat because of some weird bug in Debian's version that wasn'T going to be fixed for a while.

Now I'm not going back.

hexchat is a graphical client. if you don't see 🧙‍♀️ the problem isn't the client, it's probably the fonts

Sure. I do see the second symbol.

explore.transifex.com/hexchat/hexchat especially given this

I'm using DejaVu Sans, as far as I remember.

Title: HexChat localization | Transifex

DejaVu family has a severe lack of emojis

i usually install freshports.org/x11-fonts/noto-emoji and then github.com/C1710/blobmoji over it

Title: FreshPorts -- x11-fonts/noto-emoji: Google Noto Fonts family (Emoji)

parv: Maybe that's a feature.

I hope it is.

🤷🏽‍♂️

Somewhat-somewhat-male…

:-]

"Be conservative in what you send because not everyone cares to be liberal in what they receive…"

🤷🏽‍♂️

yeah i always install all the noto sans fonts

only way to browse wikipedia without seeing boxes

I haven't noticed any problem with fonts on Wikipedia.

But then I might not be looking at all tose language I don't understand.

s/language/languages/

I regularly read Wiktionary, or Wikipedia in other languages

wiktionary's great...

and that's why I need to learn Farsi.

yeah great for translations and context

to move to Iran?

trev, What? What does one has to do with another?

Farsi is the language of Iran, no?

What does learning a language has to do with moving to some country?

trev: yes, but, sometimes you learn one language and get three for free

parv: nothing.

I live in Ireland, and while i am interested in learning Irish, I want to learn Farsi to get a better connection to my mother tongue: Bosnian

i don't understand the connection. i thought bosnian is a slavic language

A huge amount of vocabulary we got from Ottoman Turkish is actually Arabic or Persian (or Arabic via Persian).

cool

But persian is written in an Arabic script, so that's an advantage. And it gives you a foot into understanding some Urdu and it's mutually intelligible with Afghan ((, and Tajik) and i already know Cyrillic, so that's not a barrier)

essentially, learning any (historic) Lingua Franca unlocks a huge part of history

good points

anyone know if someone have applied todo EPL in gsoc?

or better yet a userspace port of the openpowerlink deamon? using libpcap?

drobban: are you on the mailing list?

no.

did you check the archives?

im at the ideasPage.

who submitted that idea, I have some input to give in that matter

have been using that "driver" with modifications for linux the last eight years =)

awesome someone posted that as gsoc, I was about to look into it back in 2014, but never found time for it then and my then employer stopped me =)

Greetings. I've decided to migrate from GNU/Linux. As it's about desktop usage, there will definitely be more questions, and there are the first, which've already been raised during partitioning...

=) welcome alex1216

At GNU/Linux I had two MM tunables enabled: "vm.swappiness=0" and "vm.overcommit_memory=2".

you should not have to worry about those

I have the system on SSD, and I really want to slow down its wear.

are you using zfs?

how to check that sound is going through the device? ( i mean statistics or similar way ). i can hear the sound itself

RhodiumToad: no, and I think it's a bad idea with 16GB RAM. Otherwise, it's nearly enough.

alex1216: is it? why?

Title: Exploring Swap on FreeBSD | Klara Inc

(Markj looks different from what i had imagined, given this Avatar: avatars.githubusercontent.com/u/782170?v=4 )

drobban: I've heard that 8GB RAM is barely enough for it without fine tuning, so I guess 16GB would not be good experience too. With 64-128GB, I definitely would be going to use it.

Thus, my second concern is: how do I make thin volumes for Bhyve without ZFS?

alex1216: I've used ZFS with as little as 1 G

same

I am using FreeBSD in a VM with <8 GiB RAM with all ZFS datasets

2 GiB in VPS for me, very happy

meena: I have 1GB at my NAS (root on UFS, data partitions on NTFS), but it also runs some P2P applications, and it appears that it's barely enough RAM for them.

no special tweaks

Do FreeBSD's LVM implementation support thin pools?

what precisely do you mean by "thin volumes"?

RhodiumToad: at desktop virtualization packages, the're usually called "dynamically expanded disk images".

meena: yeah he definitely drools a lot less than that, if at all

you can use a sparse file as a volume for bhyve, as far as I recall

kevans: suddenly reminded of my clothes having a quasi permanent drool strain from my daughter

RhodiumToad: are sparse files available at UFS or FreeBSD's Ext4 implementation?

certainly in ufs

I wouldn't trust our ext4 implementation

IIRC FreeBSD lacks writing to "ext4" file system

Title: 270632 – [ext2fs] files <4096 bytes are corrupted on ext4 filesystems

meena: what about NTFS-3G?

I believe you're correct for the native implementation; I believe there's also a FUSE-based port of extfs which does more

alex1216, Via some "fuse" package

It it fine with fusefs-extfs?

Do not know; have not used it

if I needed extfs support I would try the port first, rather than the kernel implementation

meena: aha

Title: FreshPorts -- sysutils/fusefs-ext2: FUSE module to mount ext2, ext3 and ext4 with read write support

I had FUSE implementations of Ext4 and NTFS installed on both of my NAS, but the first of them was Raspberry Pi-based (as I can guess, its kernel can only see UFS, ZFS and FAT, on primary partitions only), so actually all data was stored on FAT32 volumes...

When Pi-based NAS had actual Ext- or NTFS-based volumes in fstab, it went single-user after any power outage even if these volumes were with "late" option... Looks like it won't be the case anyone as the data drive needn't to be connected anymore at my current NAS and the desktop, and big files support would be appreicated... Which FUSE

implementation is stable: ExtN or NTFS?

alex1216: FreeBSD can only use UFS and ZFS as root Filesystem

 as the data drive needn't to be connected with USB anymore*

meena: I have root on UFS.

installing on NTFS would be.. interesting

meena: now the question is about volumes which will hold Bhyve VM images and other >4G files.

what's wrong with ZFS?

actually root can also be NFS, but it can't be much else

fair

of course with some cunning you can use md images as root

yuripv: Certainly. It would be also flexible as it means availability of the volume from some emergency environment (which is, I guess, is going to be NT- or GNU/Linux-based)...

meena: It needs much RAM without fine tuning?

meena: as I can see, there is an wiki article called like "tuning ZFS for <8GB RAM". I'd already considered using it while building the current NAS after bocha's reviews, but at that time upgrading the NAS to support >1GB appeared expensive like building a desktop from scratch.

from what i saw, your NAS isn't just a NAS. So if all you got is 1G and you're trying to do a lot with it, then stick to UFS

as for bhyve: it just plays nicely with ZFS as the volume manager

meena: yes, it runs lighttpd, cups and some p2p apps. I'm also thinking of promoting its samba to a DC. Fortunately, the desktop is a separate machine, but it's going to be also a terminal server and Bhyve host...

that sounds like a lot of workload for 8 GB RAM

16GB*

"Terminal server" means that I'm going to use its desktop environment not only locally but also from VNC. But there is going to be only one session, and the script that prevents duplicating it is going to be migrated from GNU/Linux too. :)

anyone use a snd_uaudio and have trouble with the volume changing in realtime?

that prevents it from being duplicated*

I've used snd_uaudio a lot without issues

RhodiumToad: are you running CURRENT? i am having a problem where the volume level doesn't change (testing while listening to a youtube video in firefox, which may factor into it)

trev, Does the volume level change if you change it before starting the video?

trev: no, not on CURRENT

parv: i've gotten it to do that. still trying to figure out how it's functioning

have you set any non-standard sysctls?

i don't think so

not in regards to sound

now i'm wondering if mixertui will update in realtime or if i have to esc to set it

is the issue just with firefox?

nope, using mplayer now

and changing volume on the fly in mplayer isn't working?

correct.

huh.

i have a two channel headset. game sound and chat sound

the driver actually seems to confuse the two. it pairs the game sound with the mic and the chat sound in a different pcm

haven't tried anything like that.

on the fly works for the chat sound pcm

is there a driver for <Realtek 802.11ac NIC> ?

i have doubt

What specific chipset is in there? "pciconf -lv" may show

have to say, it is magnificent how simply and well sound works on fBSD

having tried it on a desktop now

parv, it's an usb device

ugen6.2: <Realtek 802.11ac NIC> at usbus6, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON (500mA)

Does not say much🤷🏽‍♂️

:/

it's a Chipset Realtek RTL8812BU

... besides an indication that there may not be a driver (or, a driver if available may need to be loaded)

There you go

i'm a noob in wifi :p

See forums.freebsd.org/threads/freebsd-…-driver-to-use-with-rtl8812au.75090

Title: Solved - Freebsd 12, driver to use with RTL8812AU? | The FreeBSD Forums

ok thank you ;)

arg => Seems that RTL8812BU is not supported

Teraii, I was about to mention that!

Sorry

sorry i have not undestood that way

Teraii: what version are you using?

fresh upgraded 13.2

fresh upgraded 13.2R

Teraii, There is also "net/wifibox" to try native Linux driver in Alpine VM

Title: FreshPorts -- net/wifibox: Wireless card driver via virtualized Linux

ho

Teraii: can you get the chip id?

usbconfig -d ugenWHATEVER dump_device_desc

idVendor / idProduct

idVendor = 0x0bda / idProduct = 0xb812

ok, not seeing it in the fbsd 13 sources, so you're probably out of luck as far as a native driver goes

ok

i'm out of luck :)

yes i'm studying this last way

github.com/pgj/freebsd-wifibox-port points the way to choose the needed driver

Title: GitHub - pgj/freebsd-wifibox-port: FreeBSD port for Wifibox

allready on this page from google ;)

(pkg installing)

(reading man :)

configured : an interface tap0 and wifibox0 has been created

but tap0 is marked DOWN :(

sorry

no carrier (different from DOWN)

wifibox0 seems to be a bridge interface

but i love this package:)

thank you for pointing me this package

Teraii, Did you get a working connection?

no

So is there no (Linux) driver (for RTL8812BU)? The port mentions various log files where that might be noted

i'm studying how wifibox is working with linux driver

how do you actually send an email to a mailing list?

such a stupid question

i want to report this uaudio bug

and see if someone can mentor me into fixing it

ideally, subscribe to the list first

i subbed to the digest

that'll do

then just send email to the list address

ok so my guess what right..phew

(if you don't want to see all the traffic in your mailbox, you can also subscribe in "nomail" mode and read the web archives)

i'll see how the digest is

anyway

bugs should (also?) be reported on bugzilla

parv, wifibox don't seem to support USB dongle : only PCI pass throug

Teraii, Oh! Sorry to even suggest that for you

i'm happy to discover this port, It's all thanks to you :)

very interesting

behyave is usb passthrough capable, so perhaps in near future wifibox too :)

behyve

ho i missunderstanding

usb passthrough capable => in fact not but USB controler yes

since i'm on a laptop i can do more this night

i can't

I fall asleep with my face on laptop keys at least once a week, Teraii . Do not be a quietter.

Quiet the typo there

quitter

Yes

my eyes are closing too

time too sleep here

to

so good night ;)

Just 26 mins pas midnight. The night is young yet :-P

Also it's always morning in IRC Standard Time

;->

Actually, I've got an ask. What do I need to do to get commit access to ports?

I have two ports I maintain (dovecot-fts-elastic, py-certbot-dns-gandi)

The latter is now out of date and it's updated regularly enough that filing a bugzilla for every update is going to be really annoying

I do have open-source credentials (KDE e.V. member, Spectacle - the KDE screenshot utility - is mine), so I'm pretty certain I could maintain a couple of ports and not trash the whole ports tree in the process ;-)

If you send enough updates via bugs.freebsd, committer may eventually fed up & give access to you

Ah, annoyance-driven privilege escalation :-P

👍🏽

Title: 270870 – security/py-certbot-dns-gandi: update to 1.4.3