kind of the last place I would expect a good desktop experience

on the other hand I would say after debian and prolly ubuntu.

feurig: what

fbsd+xfce4 = the best desktop experience ever

I think there's a newer maybe the exact same thing as lsop in the ports tree... does this port ring a bell? lsop will scan for outdated binaries and report in hopes you restart the pid/process/

For some reason I'm thinking it starts with a c?

Think I found it... checkrestart.

Seems like it's either doing it wrong or doesn't have the false positivies that lsop would trigger. See how it works out.

once upon a few weeks ago, i tried to setup freebsd on my desktop, so i could just use xen and have freebsd and linux working together, and gradually move to freebsd maybe, but freebsd seemed to choke on xen

dom0 or domu?

dom0

immediate panic

welcome to freebsd the true free and open source OS

skered: would be nice if rc's status said that shit needs restart

is it safe to install runit on fbsd?

why

i guess it is if it is available in the ports

is there a simple list of commands to boot from grub or things to try? i have a machine that can only boot syslinux or drop into grub cli, uefi doesnt work so ive tried insmod bsd, kfreebsd the kernel and boot it but it freezes the screen and nothing, im guessing im missing some video firmare or modules or what not but hard to see what precisly (openbsd boots for install and I can run the install

but rebooting into the installation brigs vertical stripes garbled screen)

woups sorry

cedb: bpa.st/7CRRC

Title: View paste 7CRRC

mason: thanks will try

bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=270632 we could just remove ext4fs from man.freebsd.org/ext2fs(5)

Title: 270632 – [ext2fs] files <4096 bytes are corrupted on ext4 filesystems

guid morvening

_xor: github.com/valpackett/capsicumizer is pretty awesome, but I don't recall any pledge/unveil specific work

Title: GitHub - valpackett/capsicumizer: Run anything (like full blown GTK apps) under Capsicum

Anyone has experience with ravynos in bhyve?

meena: why? ext4 is supported

I'm more inclined to wonder if something broke during a patch, because fsu@ has been working on ext2fs pretty consistently.

is there some trick to get poudriere-devel to actually fetch a pkg? I just want it to pull rust, and no matter what I do, it refuses to just download it. all default config, etc. should it be removed from all my lists, configs, etc?

i specified "-b latest" with my poudriere command, when i did the options I selected all of them with the "+" (assuming those are default), its not in my port list, but it still won't just pull it down

if you want the defaults except for some small changes, it is easier to create a -make.conf and use <option-name>_{UN,}SET in there (but iirc if you created those options files with poudriere options (or make config for plain ports) those override everything, making it annoying to work with, defaults change, ports gain new options, ...)

afaik, that + means it is a new option not covered by the current options file and to know if it is default you would need to read the port (or look at freshports)

i just did a -v and it told me my options differ, so fixing and attempting to redo and see if it pulls it this time

if you want the defaults, why have you created the options file?

when you run poudriere options it brings it up since its a dep of a port i'm building

iirc you can press alt+c there to not create it, but as said already, easier to manage with -make.conf files instead of poudriere options

changing the options almost fixed it, I need to pull in openssl and curl.. i have curl setup but not openssl, so assuming once I add that, it should pull it. I'll look into editing my make.conf as well for the future

well i can't pull in openssl since it appears to be part of fbsd and there don't seem to be a port. how it's listed as a dep then baffles me.

hey, i managed to compile a native bps patcher called 'beat' for freebsd. its used to apply patches to various romhacks for older games

should i work on an official port or nah? would this be interesting to anybody?

there is an openssl port, but normaly a port depends on the base one, you can control that via DEFAULT_VERSIONS I think

yeah i found it, whereis failed me

gzar: seems like a good idea for the ports tree

alright, i've never done porting before so i will read up on it

r0ni you need some stuff set in poudriere.conf

what have you got atm?

PACKAGE_FETCH_BRANCH="latest"

PACKAGE_FETCH_BLACKLIST="collectd*"

thats all I have, and it looks like `-b ...` can accommodate the first one

and if you do `poudriere options -cn ...` you can set options only for the top-level port you want to modify

ya ive set all that, and the default WHITELIST with gcc rust llvm all in it

r0ni: the only other reasons are might not fetch are:

- your /usr/ports git commit is no longer lined up with whatever the pkg builders are at

- you have custom options set

ya my port-list wasn't pulling in openssl tho its a dep of a dep, I have to explicably list it in order for poudriere to see i have it

i'm letting it check options atm, then i'll try a new bulk to see

poudriere shouldn't need that, it is very very good at working out the dependencies. its kinda the main thing it does

01:17] Package fetch: Skipping rust-1.68.2: deps wanted: curl-7.88.1 openssl-1.1.1t_2,1

[00:01:17] Package fetch: Skipping rust-1.68.2: deps remote: curl-7.88.1

[00:01:17] Package fetch: No packages eligible to fetch

this is what i get even adding openssl to my ports list... i'm at a loss for what it really wants from me

it has built the openssl pkg (its with all the rest of them) so i dunno what more it's looking for, it's all there

is it posible to boot freebsd using ipxe ?

it's aliiiiiive!

la_mettrie: finnish?

me too

moi

neirac: yes

i have some questions about firewall

i know I am a newbie

but

if I have NAT router and in the settings it says it has some kind of a firewall on

do i still need to switch the ipfw on if I have no services listening to to net

and are the "workstation" defaults fine in ifpw

am I safe?

dubiousness I don't seem to find a doc that works, on the diskless installation document is not clear where I download pxeboot , I was trying ipxe but is not working

neirac: preliminary search says, yes to ipxe boot

meena Could not boot: Exec format error (ipxe.org/2e008081) trying to boot using ipxe

Title: iPXE - open source boot firmware [err:2e0080]

LapsangS: why? well, persistent user process, systemd has ~ systemd/ which allows normal users to have services started by the supervision system itself

neirac: Your best best is to try it in a virtual environment first if you have the capabilities to

dubiousness I was booting ipxe smartos successfully now I'm trying FreeBSD, seems there is no clear docs on ipxe for this case.

neirac: Are you just trying to PXE boot FreeBSD? Are you using mfsBSD?

mason: Regarding the epair bug, epair is a cloned interface (ifconfig -C) capable of processing VLANs. It is documented in epair(4). They are really useful for testing, but also a nasty edge case. Soon-ish it'll gain a few more tests.

jlduran: Ah, thanks. I'd looked for the concept of "sub-interface" and missed it, but I didn't dig into how it works with vlans as yet, so that's probably going to be enlightening.

ek, yes I'm fetching a mfBSD iso , I'm using imgfetch to get it , could be my ipxe script that's wrong

neirac: It could be. I know it isn't iPXE-specific, but these instructions are the same as I use for mfsBSD booting with standard PXELINUX: eerielinux.wordpress.com/2021/02/05…om-freebsd-12-pxe-menu-and-bsd-pt-3

Title: Multi-OS PXE-booting from FreeBSD 12: PXE menu and *BSD (pt. 3) – eerielinux

mason: I'm sorry, I might have pulled that term from my Cisco days. Sub-interface roughly translates to VLAN interface in this case.

ek those are using pxeboot not ipxe, I'll try that, where I download pxe to chain it?

jlduran: Aha! I never got much further than a surface familiarity with IOS. Thank you again.

neirac: The download and configuration of the PXELINUX (Syslinux) setup is also included in that same part of the article. It uses the FBSD pkg to extract the needed items.

what can one use with getopt instead of "--", which does not seem to be handled?

getopt -n vtsgram -o 't:p:b:s:?' -- -p100 -b300 -s '-z60 -Z-30' /mnt/nas/vlf44/events/1676926423.vt

it does not seem to accept --

CCFL_Man: what do you mean instead of "--"? "--" is the end of options option

TommyC: that's the convention, yes

and that's not how you use getopt, at least the one in the base system

(-n -o suggest you are looking at linux one?)

rm -- -f # delete file named -f

wouldn't it be cool if basic shit like getopt were the same between Linux and other systems

otoh, maybe we should just stop writing shell

yuripv: so that was pulled fron a script designed to run on linux and -- specifies the end of options. is there a way to specify it differently with bsd's getopt

meeena: it should be

TommyC: yeah, -- to specify the end of options doesn't work on bsd's getopt

looks like devel/util-linux has the getopt you want (didn't check)

wait, "--" doesn't work in fbsd? man.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?getopt seems to imply it works

Title: getopt

yuripv: will installing it break anything?

TommyC: it does, but the placement of it seems critical

-- usually means stdin

CCFL_Man: why should it? :) it's just a port, you'll just need to specify full path to that getopt binary

CrtxReavr: right

TommyC: i might have to call it by a different name

'-' means stdin, '--' is the end-of-options

CCFL_Man: you need to use "--" to denote the end of options at the end of all of your options

like the rm example meeena gave, rm -- -rf, vs rm -rf --

dd if=/dev/urandom of=/lib/\*

like getopt -- -n vtsgram -o 't:p:b:s:?' -p100 -b300 -s '-z60 -Z-30' /mnt/nas/vlf44/events/1676926423.vt

wait wait, is "vtsgram" the script and you're calling it via: getopt -- -n vtsgram <whatever else>?

yes

the script itself uses getopt

right, but you don't use getopt on vtsgram

or is that actually how you are calling it?

it is calling getopt. here is vtsgram: bpa.st/LMHR4

Title: View paste LMHR4

it stops at line45 due to getopt

that's not how you use getopt

not on BSD, anyway

just install the linux one.

there's also a lot of evals...I don't like that

yuripv: that might be the best option here

TommyC: that's done to keep the script as portable as possible

why not skips the OPTS= line and just use a while loop?

yuripv: i see you wwere a port maintainer for it

TommyC: i'm not sure

how is the linuc-utils one called?

CCFL_Man: no idea

it looks like it's just named getopt but i don't know how it would be called instead of the BSD version

honestly I don't even use getopt, I use getopt*s*

CCFL_Man: nope, that's not me

oh

Is there a easy way to get nfsv4 with sec=sys working on a freebsd server and linux client? I can get the exports mounted on the client but get input/output errors when trying to read it

its a shame freebsd v3 doesn't have crossmnt

ugh annoying that linux to linux v4 works without issues

have you read nfsv4(4)?

sec=sys is using uid/gid, so you would need uid/gid values to be the same across the systems.

yup uid's match

also make sure the nfs domains match (or your users will be translated to nobody;)

it also mentions the sysctl needed to be turned on if you don't run nfsuserd

anyhow, IO error would hint about something weird going on

yup the sysctl's are enabled but from the page its more for letting you get the "real" ids instead of nobody nobody