13:59:37 <xmerlin> "though nobody in reality should be using openssh from pkgsrc" ...why not?
14:00:18 <Reinhilde> Hey, I live in reality! >:(
14:18:44 <jperkin> xmerlin: because we provide an up-to-date openssh in the platform that has a bunch of integrations that the vanilla pkgsrc one does not
14:19:33 <xmerlin> sometime you cannot update the platform but you can update the single pkgsrc package
14:25:16 <jperkin> each to their own, but it's not something we recommend
14:32:23 <xmerlin> If you have 200 zones on a server, it's sometimes not easy to schedule a platform upgrade because it brings fixes but sometimes also bugs, and it's necessary to conduct tests outside of production. Updating a package is simpler and fixes a 0-day bug in an instant.