04:26:55 I always wondered why normal terminal options, like using arrow to go to the left (in ftp for example) does not work under SmartOS console (or screen session for that matter) 04:27:20 Or how delete key does not work as expected etc 04:28:41 arrow up gives ^[[A etc. 04:32:52 Pageup, Pagedown don't work too.. 06:09:06 it is not built to support it. 06:10:01 I did add tftp to use libtecla for command line editing, but rest of those could have some love too 06:11:05 I was just needing to test tftp client and got tired of its bad command line:D 14:57:30 tsoome: You can use rlwrap for those. 14:58:00 is bhyve objectively better than kvm in terms of performance? 14:58:32 b-rex: It depends! 14:58:51 i want to run linux and opnsense VMs 14:59:00 In most cases yes, but there are some people who have stated that their workload happens to perform better with kvm. 14:59:15 You're probably better off with bhyve. 14:59:17 so far i haven't been able to get opnsense to work with bhyve 14:59:33 What is it about it that doesn't work? 14:59:36 Does it boot? 14:59:49 got it to boot and install after a lot of experimenting. 15:00:08 one second i will paste the config that worked for install 15:00:14 (not in the channel) 15:01:37 https://dpaste.com/3YC45LQBS 15:02:29 i'm having to use the usb image because i could not figure out how to boot the iso under bhyve 15:03:07 this works and it is able to install. then i update the disks to make the 32GB disk bootable. it boots but is unable to mount /dev/gpt/root 15:03:45 Sounds like the boot loader didn't get set up properly. 15:04:25 i tried entering in the device names manually in the mountroot and it's like they're not there 15:05:19 so there's this egg to crack. and then there's the debian 11 under bhyve egg to crack (no network interface gets detected) 15:05:45 it might help to explicitly assign the pci_slot to your disks 15:05:55 that way they won't be changing between boots. 15:06:34 I'm not 100% sure on this, but I think that maybe the devices are getting re-enumerated because you removed the installer 15:07:09 yes i suspect that's what it is 15:07:14 trying that real quick 15:12:37 * b-rex crosses fingers 15:20:56 bahamat: yep that was it :) 15:21:10 Glad to hear! 15:22:33 b-rex: FWIW, Triton automatically sets the pci_slot on bhyve. But then again, it's also not as easy to boot from an installer image then switch the boot disk later. 15:23:24 ok now... i found some stuff about older debians not having any network interface detected under bhyve 15:23:44 some of the posts claim that it was fixed in new debians, and that doesn't appear to be the case 15:24:22 if i simply switch to a rockylinux iso, everything works fine - thus i know that my config is partially correct 15:24:57 but i'd really like to figure out what about my config makes debian have no net 15:25:11 some of them said use the e1000 model - that did not work 15:26:03 Images need to have cloud-init to auto detect networking. And it's possible some older versions of cloud-init don't support SmartOS metadata properly 15:33:23 cloud-init will detect hardware that isn't there? 15:33:33 the vm doesn't see a nic at all 15:52:44 jperkin: sorry for the delay, here is the link to the pkgin.db from the machine with the zabbix-4.0.24nb7 install issues related to python310: https://nc2.qutic.com/s/JegmR3Qa6ZHJnoT 18:38:37 There should be a thread on the internet called 18:38:52 "Trying to interface or communicate with the networking team" 18:39:15 aka... tales from the crypt 18:39:22 aka... mission impossible 18:52:07 Distinct networking and systems teams are an organizational failure. Fight me. (It's why Sun merged the OS gate and the Networking gate into ON back in 1990-before-I-got-there.) 19:14:21 the first rule of the networking team is that the network is never responsible, even when it is 19:14:31 (very much like mainframes) 19:29:42 20:00:45 jbk: oof that sounds very relatable 20:12:32 danmcd: almost as useful as a backup group having no overlap with the systems team :) 21:21:28 sjorge: my favorite memory of that was when two systems couldn't talk to each other, they were on two different vlans, each vlan only had 1 gateway (i.e. each system only needed a default route) 21:21:41 they could reach other stuff on other vlans 21:21:48 but it was a 'static arp problem on my server' 21:22:08 i was like '.... that's not how ARP works' 23:26:51 hello all, is there any tools / template to monitor Triton/CN/SmartOS? with Prometheus? a big thanks