19:54:04 <extrowerk> so now I got a vps at netcup running the latest omnios version. However I am facing an issue, so far I have used zones only in my own lan, wehre ip addresses were abundant, but now i don't have unlimited acess to ip adresses, at least not global routable adresses. Question: what kind of IP's can I add to my zones now?
20:00:20 <extrowerk> can I define private IP's for my zones and get them routed trough the GZ to the internet?
20:09:35 <m1ari> extrowerk: I believe you can, You'd need some sort of interface on the GZ with a private address, then attach the zones to that interface, then use IPF to setup nat on the GZ.
20:11:55 <m1ari> I think you need an etherstub for the private (host only) interface - `man dladm` might well be your friend in getting the network bits setup
20:41:20 <extrowerk> m1ari: sounds like a plan, i'll research this
20:54:55 <pedja> extrowerk, take a look at https://antranigv.am/posts/2024/02/omnios-mirror-one/ , perhaps? 
20:55:33 <antranigv> have I been summoned?
20:56:07 <pedja> heh. it's a nice article, still waiting for part 2 :)
20:56:13 <antranigv> apologies for never finishing part two and three. but I will, one day.
20:56:30 <antranigv> (the funny thing is: the work is done. pkgsrc mirror and ISOs mirror)
20:56:59 <antranigv> but the machine itself might be down right now beacuse I'm a dumbass who keeps forgetting to configure bhyve :)))
20:57:11 <antranigv> man I miss OmniOS. I wish I used it more
21:03:13 <tux0r> i need to retire my only omnios server soon, it shows its age (almost ten years now). i wonder whether i should use it on the next one
21:10:23 * pedja sometimes sees illumos/omnios pop up in hacker news threads
21:10:55 <antranigv> tux0r to be fair at this day and age there are a lot of good options. weird hardware? NetBSD. simplicity? OpenBSD. Robustness? FreeBSD. Innovation? OmniOS/illumos. useless bloat? Windows. Useful bloat? Linux. the list goes on.
21:11:25 <pedja> when nas/storage is discussed, mostly, as 'the only sane way to use zfs' :)
21:12:30 <antranigv> well that limits you to FreeBSD and illumos by default
21:12:41 <tux0r> antranigv: openbsd is more robust than freebsd, IMO. i do, indeed, consider to try netbsd on a server some day, now that i have finally figured out how to use it on a laptop (i failed a few years ago and i had not touched it until this year)
21:12:54 <tux0r> ZFS is overrated for most use cases, IMO
21:13:10 <tux0r> i never needed one of its features that UFS2/FFS doesnt have
21:13:30 <antranigv> checksums?
21:13:38 <tux0r> never needed.
21:13:39 <antranigv> zpool history?
21:13:41 <tux0r> maybe i was lucky.
21:13:43 <antranigv> quota?
21:13:55 <tux0r> quota on single-user systems?
21:13:57 * tux0r shrugs
21:13:59 <antranigv> sorry I'm just looking at my shell history to check what I use
21:14:12 <tux0r> all of my servers are mine, and mine alone. and i keep backups.
21:14:16 <antranigv> you have a single user system? wait till cgit/gitea fills your logs or zones :P 
21:14:30 <tux0r> it does not, because i don't use git.
21:14:36 <antranigv> lucky bastard
21:14:38 <MelanieUrsidino> linux has zfs and it's not even that insane
21:14:41 <tux0r> because git sucks for most use cases, including mine.
21:15:10 <tux0r> anyway, good night. 11:15 PM here, long day ahead :)
21:15:19 <antranigv> my friend jokingly said once "did you start a company just to do zfs for a living and use fossil instead of git?" and I was not able to answer
21:15:46 <tux0r> fossil <3
21:17:51 <MelanieUrsidino> (which fossil? the VCS or the plan 9 filesystem?)
21:18:58 <antranigv> both are cool.
21:19:02 <tux0r> both, in my case. not sure about antranigv though
21:19:07 <tux0r> yeah soooo.. afk
21:19:13 <antranigv> tux0r gn