04:23:07 Hello! I'm checking out OmniOS and got ZNC running in a zone today. I'm curious about hosting other services like Jellyfin, a Fediverse instance, or game servers (particularly Minecraft). Are there any major hurdles, and would maintaining them require constant effort? 06:16:54 toastical: i run jellyfin, znc, unbound, paperless, bittorrent, vpn and stuff in my zones on omnios since 12+ months. It works for me (TM). 06:17:43 No big troubles, just dont use disks attached via usb. 06:22:09 toastical: keeping any system maintained should always be a constant effort (installing updates, monitoring disks etc) but OmniOS is no worse than any other system (Linux, BSD, Windows) and arguably some of the tools are better than what you might find elsewhere 06:33:52 Oh, and vaultwarden too 06:41:34 szilard: do you run those in lx zones? 06:42:04 Many in lx, but not every. 06:43:32 I have bhyve, pjgsrc, sparse and ipkg zones aswell 06:44:48 i just started using OmniOS yesterday and was playing with zones. I managed to get a minecraft server running in an lx zone, tried for a hytale server but it just crashes hard and boots me out of the zone 06:45:16 might have to bhyve that one 06:46:51 haven't touched solaris since solaris 10. 16:25:57 szilard: dope, I'll give it a proper go then. 16:29:46 m1ari: 100%, I was more wondering if it'd require like an exorbitant amount. 17:52:04 toastical: the main thing to remember with updates is that if it creates a new BE (boot environment) you should reboot asap. Otherwise other changes to the system might disappear. 17:52:32 Noted. 17:59:15 depending on where you've come from you'll probably find various features you come to like (zfs, smf, zones, BEs) also generally the man pages are very informative. 18:01:37 zfs is actually how I discovered solaris and illumos. Had some jankiness with btrfs on my PC and looked what other options there are. Apparently just ZoL. That caused me to look into why ZoL isn't in the kernel, which eventually led me to find out its from Solaris. 21:00:49 they might seem to disappear, they actually end up in the old BE 21:27:40 toastical: yep, always make sure to reboot into the new BE 22:03:11 FWIW: I just lost an (unimportant) cron job mail the other day because a delayed the reboot too long. I'm aware that I could mount the old BE to access its /var/mail -- it's just not worth the hassle in my case. Taught me a lesson, though. 22:49:34 omnios could as well create a /var/shared filesystem and place spool / mail files there. This is one the first things I create on neu OmniOS images. 23:01:26 tomww: See also... https://www.illumos.org/issues/16470 23:01:27 → FEATURE 16470: support for /var data that is not specific to a boot environment (New) 23:07:13 made my first package \o/ 23:50:05 Question, the guide i followed removed the paths from the manifest file with mog, relying on /usr/bin already existing. What'd happen if it didn't? Would the pkg install fail or would it just create them by default?