18:15:54 <szilard> Is there anything I can do to get my PRs merged here? https://github.com/omniosorg/omnios-extra/pulls/extrowerk
18:16:12 <szilard> Also can somebody confirm, my messages gets sent to this channel?
18:16:38 <szilard> I am asking for review since long, but got no answer.
18:19:40 <tux0r> yes, i can read your messages :o)
18:19:55 <tux0r> it's just that most of this channel isn't hyper-active, i'm afraid
18:22:14 <szilard> Oh, thanks for the reply, now I know at least my messages are clear and loud.
18:50:51 <GrayGhost> I am trying to update from 52 to 54 ... seems to have worked but wheh I reboot it is still 52 
18:53:15 <GrayGhost> https://pastebin.com/wTs11kHk
19:21:44 <szilard> GrayGhost: what does beadm says?
19:23:01 <szilard> On my side it says:
19:23:03 <szilard> omnios-r151056d-1 NR     /          17,00G static 2025-11-27 18:41
19:23:35 <GrayGhost> bootBK           -      -          119K   static 2025-12-02 12:29
19:23:36 <GrayGhost> r151054          NR     /          1.78G  static 2025-12-02 12:39
19:25:31 <szilard> so you are in 54 and the next boot will be also the same.
19:26:10 <GrayGhost> when I ssh in it say 151052
19:26:18 <szilard> I assume you have attempted to run "pkg update -r -v" already. -r means recursive, so think about it before you run it.
19:26:32 <szilard> weird
19:26:37 <GrayGhost> no I have not 
19:26:59 <szilard> -r updates all the linked zones, as far as I understand
19:27:19 <szilard> but before that
19:27:27 <szilard> please do the following:
19:27:56 <szilard> # pkg publisher
19:28:13 <szilard> and check the output. you can paste it here
19:29:32 <GrayGhost>                                                                         
19:29:32 <GrayGhost> PUBLISHER                   TYPE     STATUS P LOCATION
19:29:32 <GrayGhost> omnios                      origin   online F https://pkg.omnios.org/r151054/core/
19:29:32 <GrayGhost> omnios                      mirror   online F https://us-west.mirror.omnios.org/r151052/core/
19:29:32 <GrayGhost> extra.omnios                origin   online F https://pkg.omnios.org/r151054/extra/
19:29:33 <GrayGhost> extra.omnios                mirror   online F https://us-west.mirror.omnios.org/r151052/extra/
19:31:17 <szilard> oh, you have mirrors defined, for 52
19:31:26 <szilard> you should delete them first.
19:32:20 <GrayGhost> how do I delete them ?
19:33:09 <szilard> I would try :    pkg unset-publisher https://us-west.mirror.omnios.org/r151052/core/
19:33:41 <szilard> but maybe it is  pkg unset-publisher omnios    and then   pkg unset-publisher omnios.extra
19:34:14 <szilard> you can simply unset all of them, later on it is easy to recreate them. You can find the correct publishers in the release notes.
19:34:18 <szilard> Let me find a link.
19:34:26 <szilard> Just try to unset all of them.
19:34:40 <szilard> MAybe for the mirrors you need to pass -m aswell, i don't recall.
19:36:08 <szilard> # pkg set-publisher -r -O https://pkg.omnios.org/r151056/core omnios
19:36:09 <szilard> # pkg set-publisher -r -O https://pkg.omnios.org/r151056/extra extra.omnios
19:37:44 <szilard> whith this commands you can set the correct publishers, so use any means to remove the old 54 and 53 ones.
19:38:54 <szilard> In case you are in europe, I use the listed ones, they are really quick nowadays, no need for the us mirror.
19:40:22 <GrayGhost> now I have 
19:40:26 <GrayGhost> PUBLISHER                   TYPE     STATUS P LOCATION
19:40:27 <GrayGhost> omnios                      origin   online F https://pkg.omnios.org/r151056/core/
19:40:27 <GrayGhost> omnios                      mirror   online F https://us-west.mirror.omnios.org/r151052/core/
19:40:27 <GrayGhost> extra.omnios                origin   online F https://pkg.omnios.org/r151056/extra/
19:40:27 <GrayGhost> extra.omnios                mirror   online F https://us-west.mirror.omnios.org/r151052/extra/
19:41:23 <szilard> you need to remove the old mirrors
19:41:27 <szilard> let me check the manpage
19:42:35 <GrayGhost> can I go from 52 to 56 ...?
19:43:02 <szilard> I went from 52 to 54, and from 54 to 56.
19:43:18 <szilard> you can do the same, applying the correct publishers.
19:43:22 <GrayGhost> that is what I thought 
19:43:37 <szilard> but first let's find out how to remove the us mirrors
19:43:54 <GrayGhost> I am in the us 
19:44:07 <GrayGhost> it that matters 
19:45:57 <nomad> the 056 announcement said you have to go via 054 if updating from 052.
19:46:14 <szilard> then do that, but first remove all publishers.
19:46:18 <szilard> like : pkg unset-publisher omnios
19:46:28 <szilard> pkg unset-publisher extra.omnios
19:47:24 <szilard> check if they are gone with : pkg publisher 
19:49:06 <GrayGhost> they are all gone now ... had to also do without the estra a second time 
19:49:22 <szilard> if all is gone you should add the 54 publishers.
19:49:25 <szilard> let me get the links
19:49:46 <szilard> pkg set-publisher -r -O https://pkg.omnios.org/r151054/core omnios
19:49:48 <szilard> and
19:49:59 <szilard> pkg set-publisher -r -O https://pkg.omnios.org/r151054/extra extra.omnios
19:50:27 <szilard> check the outut of the : pkg publisher
19:50:52 <szilard> if you don't have time pressure the european server should be fine.
19:51:04 <szilard> later on you can add the mirrors, if necessary.
19:51:28 <GrayGhost> PUBLISHER                   TYPE     STATUS P LOCATION
19:51:29 <GrayGhost> omnios                      origin   online F https://pkg.omnios.org/r151054/core/
19:51:29 <GrayGhost> extra.omnios                origin   online F https://pkg.omnios.org/r151054/extra/
19:51:35 <szilard> looks good.
19:51:51 <szilard> do you have any ipkg branded zones?
19:52:10 <GrayGhost> I don't think so 
19:52:50 <GrayGhost> sudo pkg update -f -r --be-name=r151054
19:52:52 <szilard> check with "zoneadm list -v"
19:53:00 <GrayGhost> is that correct ?
19:53:22 <szilard> check first the ipkg zones.
19:54:36 <GrayGhost> hc@omnios:~$ zoneadm list -v                                                                                               
19:54:36 <GrayGhost>   ID NAME             STATUS     PATH                           BRAND    IP    
19:54:36 <GrayGhost>    0 global           running    /                              ipkg     shared
19:54:58 <szilard> zoneadm list -v shows the zone brand. you can ignore the global zone.
19:55:15 <GrayGhost> ok 
19:55:24 <szilard> the command you have posted earlier "sudo pkg update -f -r --be-name=r151054" is ok.
19:55:36 <szilard> you can run it now
19:55:50 <szilard> Good luck!
19:56:26 <GrayGhost> pkg update: The boot environment 'r151054' already exists.
19:56:45 <GrayGhost> do I have to delete it ?
19:56:50 <szilard> then just "pkg update"
19:57:03 <szilard> you have probably already created the snapshot
19:57:34 <GrayGhost> seem to be working :)
19:58:11 <GrayGhost> when it is finished .... init 6 ?
19:58:19 <szilard> I always name my BEs like "r151054-last" to clearly identify this is the last one in that revision.
19:58:31 <szilard> init 6  or simply reboot
19:59:38 <GrayGhost> somewhere I read that after an install you must init 6 and not reboot ... but what do I know ... not much 
20:00:27 <szilard> do you have physical contact with the server? is it near to you?
20:00:41 <GrayGhost> yes 
20:00:50 <szilard> then it is not important.
20:01:28 <szilard> the guide says do *NOT* use "reboot now", because it will instruct the bootloader to load the kernel called "now" at the next boot.
20:01:34 <szilard> reboot is safe.
20:01:43 <szilard> init 6 aswell.
20:01:53 <GrayGhost> then I do it again with 56 ...or since 54 is long term I can stay with it ???
20:02:22 <szilard> you can stay with it, if you want, or oyu can go to update to 56.
20:02:36 <szilard> Is the publisher fast enough?
20:02:58 <szilard> I have already updated to 56 on my NAS. works well.
20:03:00 <nomad> We're running 054. No problems to report.
20:03:23 <szilard> I haven't had any issue with 54.
20:03:35 <szilard> Updated just for the keks and for fun.
20:04:13 <GrayGhost> thank you for the help ... or should I wait with that till it reboots :)
20:04:18 <szilard> keks like "biscuit"
20:04:45 <szilard> better to stay till it is successfully booted into the new env.
20:04:45 <GrayGhost> allmost done 
20:06:08 <szilard> so oyu have attempted to update your server earlier, as the snaőshot was already there. Did the update failed somewhere? Or maybe the mis-versioned mirror publisher somehow rejected your update attempts?
20:07:16 <GrayGhost> rebooting now 
20:07:16 <szilard> I already had a mis-versioned mirror before, unsetting them solved my issue. Hope this will fix yours aswell.
20:07:51 <szilard> Ich drücke die Daumen!
20:08:35 <szilard> I'll press my thumbs for you!
20:09:10 <szilard> after your server comes up check the BE with beadm.
20:12:07 <GrayGhost> BE               Active Mountpoint Space  Policy Created
20:12:08 <GrayGhost> omnios-r151052   -      -          68.65M static 2025-02-04 13:59
20:12:08 <GrayGhost> omnios-r151052l  -      -          3.80M  static 2025-02-05 07:43
20:12:08 <GrayGhost> omnios-r151052av -      -          3.14M  static 2025-10-28 10:00
20:12:08 <GrayGhost> bootBK           -      -          119K   static 2025-12-02 12:29
20:12:08 <GrayGhost> r151054          -      -          4.64M  static 2025-12-02 12:39
20:12:10 <GrayGhost> omnios-r151054ad NR     /          2.72G  static 2025-12-02 14:02
20:12:31 <GrayGhost> it came up with 54 :)
20:13:04 <szilard> WOAH!
20:13:18 <szilard> YOU JUST DID IT! 
20:13:48 <szilard> CONRATS! I wa shere fingers crossed all the time.
20:13:48 <GrayGhost> should I delete the 52's 
20:14:04 <szilard> Now it is your decision if you stays with the LTS or to update to 56.
20:14:33 <GrayGhost> I will think about it 
20:14:40 <szilard> you can, but you don't have to. Wait a bit, if you have enough space.
20:15:01 <szilard> You can delete them the next monday or so.
20:15:37 <szilard> chek first if everything is OK
20:15:38 <GrayGhost> I have lots of space two 4 tb drives and just me expermenting with a server 
20:16:16 <szilard> In case you have any pkgsrc zones, you should update them in the zones, as there was a new pkgsrc release in the meantime
20:16:39 <szilard> but from your previous paste it seems you don't have any zones, right?
20:16:46 <szilard> except the GlobalZone.
20:21:56 <GrayGhost> It appears to be working properly 
20:22:33 <GrayGhost> Thank You for the help 
20:26:40 <szilard> Immer wieder gerne! Glad I was able to help you.
20:27:24 <GrayGhost> If I want to delete the 52's where will I find them ?
20:29:27 <szilard> you can list, find and delete the BEs with beadm
20:29:42 <szilard> beadm destroy <BEname>
20:30:17 <szilard> beadm will simply list all the BEs
20:30:34 <GrayGhost> yes it does 
20:32:41 <szilard> it seems you are a newcomer in Illumos / Solarish world. If this is so, the OmniOS user guide yócould be useful for you. Consider to dive in
20:34:21 <GrayGhost> you are correct ... I will look at the user guide 
20:35:02 <GrayGhost> not real new to linux ... but not very good at command line ... but learning 
20:35:53 <szilard> linux and solarish systems like OmniOS have lot in common, but also many differences.
20:36:54 <GrayGhost> one I noticed is the Ctrl R does not start a reverse search 
20:37:08 <GrayGhost> in this terminal 
20:37:55 <GrayGhost> ctrl shift R works :)
20:38:13 <szilard> I personally like simple unixy systems better if I have to decide. However there is no simple systems nowadays. So If I need to decide I pick Solarish descendant Illumos, so like OmniOS.
20:38:51 <szilard> possibly it dependy on your local and / or on your shell. check the used shell like "echo $SHELL"
20:39:05 <GrayGhost> I am unsing Linux mint lmde 
20:39:24 <GrayGhost> with xfce 
20:39:36 <szilard> if your system uses some oldschool shell, you can fix it easily.
20:40:36 <szilard> Welcome here then!
20:41:06 <tux0r> enjoy the upgrade to mature unix, GrayGhost! :D
20:42:49 <szilard> We definetely need some omniOS stickers.
20:43:31 <GrayGhost> For your auto bumper ?
20:45:17 <szilard> yeah, sure!
20:51:47 <tux0r> and random outside lanterns
20:52:06 <tux0r> and pub toilets
20:55:19 <szilard> sure!
20:55:35 <GrayGhost> omniOS is using ksh shell ... ???
20:55:57 <szilard> if "echo $SHELL" returns that, then yes.
20:56:27 <szilard> You can change it. AFAIK bash is available in the base install. Check it with "which bash" first.
20:57:02 <szilard> or you can switch to zsh aswell.
20:57:29 <szilard> zsh is also a command line environment.
21:00:47 <GrayGhost> at my level it does not make much differance ... they are all close to the same 
21:18:11 <tux0r> zsh is a bad choice IMO
21:18:31 <tux0r> it can emulate most other shells - badly
21:18:31 <tux0r> GrayGhost: just wait until you try the csh ;o)
21:19:17 <jayjwa> Zsh is one of the best shells. I used to use tcsh on Linux, before Fish. 
21:20:46 <tux0r> how so? i mean, it does a lot of stuff that does not really belong in a shell, similar to powershell.
21:22:22 <jayjwa> It's highly configurable and at one point probably had more features than Bash. 
21:22:58 <jayjwa> It's got fancy prompts and a right-side prompt, too. 
21:24:13 <tux0r> how many features does a command prompt need?
21:24:37 <tux0r> there are quite a few security implications in feature bloat, and performance *is* relevant.
21:24:44 <tux0r> that said, i will NOT try to convince you :)
21:25:18 <GrayGhost> I am attemting to change to bash .. with the chsh command ... not found 
21:28:24 <tux0r> try usermod.
21:28:38 <tux0r> (e.g. usermod -s /path/to/your/bash GrayGhost)
21:41:32 <GrayGhost> tux0r I get invalid syntax with sudo usermod -s /usr/bin/bash
21:51:32 <tux0r> of course. because you did not add the user name.
21:54:19 <GrayGhost> thank now it worked :)
21:55:54 <jayjwa> If you're having fun with chsh, wait until roles and profiles come up.
21:57:07 <tux0r> :D
21:57:36 <GrayGhost> learning VERY slowly 
22:03:48 <GrayGhost> Kinda tough on this old brain 
22:05:27 <tux0r> it's never too late for better software