15:59:41 <jaap> mlari: thank you, you've confirmed my suspicion. I've started to look for some illumos, SmartOS and OpenSolaris resources too
15:59:58 <jaap> I found the OpenSolaris Bible for 5 USD, not bad
16:01:29 <jaap> It takes some time to get acquainted with the ecosystem, learn which concepts there are, how far back they go and thus which references are valuable
16:02:23 <jaap> I've done mostly networking (proprietary NOS'es), Windows and VMware. With some amount of Linux and a little bit of BSD
16:03:23 <jaap> I came to BSD after I became disillusioned with Linux complexity, looking for a VM and container platform to stick with
16:03:50 <jaap> But then I learned the spirit of Solaris is still alive and kicking and became interested in that
16:04:12 <jaap> I'll probably end up with a mix, since I'm interested in x86 packet forwarding too (things like DPDK, VPP)
16:05:03 <jaap> As far as I've gleaned to this moment, that type of high performance stuff hasn't had any recent attention in illumos
16:52:27 <m1ari> jaap: a lot of the core bits: ZFS, dtrace, SMF go back to solaris 10, although there have been improvements since then, and things have diverged since Oracle got their mitts on things.
16:53:16 <m1ari> things like bhyve are newer, but I think there's some cross over with FreeBSD with that (I've not yet played with it)
16:54:10 <m1ari> you'll also find some helpful people on here and some of the other related channels
20:03:24 <jaap> Could I run OmniOS on a generic VPS host like Hetzner? I've heard of people using the Linux rescue mode to get BSD's on there
20:03:53 <jaap> I've seen the AWS image, but I'm trying to prevent using additional AWS services
20:04:14 <jaap> Ideally I'd get an OmniOS VPS running somewhere as a jump host, seems like a good use case to start out with
20:13:11 <sommerfeld> jaap: if they let you upload your own boot image you can do it.
20:13:51 <sommerfeld> (there may be other ways to get it loaded but that's likely to be the most straightforward)
20:26:55 <jayjwa> Or use spare hardware. Lots of extra x86_64 hardware on the market with Win10 going EOL soon. 
20:35:09 <ptribble> Haven't tried Hetzner personally (I know AWS, Digital Ocean, Vultr, Netcup all work fine) but they do offer a custom image install from ISO option.
20:35:56 <ptribble> Although if I can, I do an iPXE boot, as the ipxe image is so much smaller and easier to manage
20:37:05 <sommerfeld> jayjwa: really depends depending on why you want the server.   (wanting a  machine in a distinct power/network failure domain from your basement, for one).
20:37:06 <ptribble> (The only problem is if it decides to reset the VNC console just at the moment you need to press ctrl-b or whatever you need to break into the boot.)