00:27:47 <jclulow> jayjwa: It's pretty difficult to read with the escape sequences
00:28:18 <jclulow> When you run groups(1) I would expect the first group in the list to be the user's primary group, and then a list of their secondary groups
00:28:57 <jclulow> as per the combination of the primary group field in passwd(5) and any mentions of the user in group(5)
00:29:30 <jclulow> You can compare with "id -a" as well, which gives slightly more detailed output
00:51:34 <jayjwa> Minix3, Solaris 9, and Omni OS don't have the user's primary listed after the last colon in /etc/groups. My Linux system does. That's where the confusion arose from. 
07:15:26 <m1ari> jayjwa: I don't think I've ever seen that on Linux. but most Linux systems seem to like creating a group for each user by default rather than putting all users in a smaller number of groups
08:18:42 <lem> hi guys, anyones got experience setting up zadm with napp it?