16:11:53 will VMware workstation run on omniOS ? 16:21:02 I think that would be a definitive no, and as a proprietary closed source product only VMware can change that 16:21:34 OmniOS (and the other illumos distributions) ought to run fine on VMware, though 16:22:30 I like the way vmware works on linux ... what vm sould I use on OmniOS ? 16:23:39 Probably not a very useful thing to do anyways 16:25:32 There's bhyve, kvm, qemu, and VirtualBox, so there's a variety depending on the problem at hand 16:31:54 I am new to OmniOS and file servers so just trying to get my head around it :) 16:37:48 Hi. 16:44:06 If you're just starting then think of bhyve for a VM, and only diverge from that once you've gained experience 16:45:06 And using a tool like zadm on OmniOS is much easier than using the base zonecfg and zoneadm commands 16:45:24 There are some walkthroughs https://omnios.org/setup/zadm.html 16:46:24 thanks ..I will look at that 16:46:29 (Although the ascii casts there play havoc with my Pale Moon, which blows up to 15G when trying to view that page.) 18:01:29 where is zadm in relation to smart tools ? 18:40:58 my understanding is that zadm is just a wrapper to make creating zones (VMs) easier. So far I've only created zones the longer way around. 18:41:33 it might help if you gave an idea of hat you're trying to put in a vm 18:58:19 I am too new at file shareing and servers to even answer that question 19:01:44 a friend helped me set up an old dell laptop with two 1 tb drives and I have file sharing working :) 19:02:17 not sure what else I want or can do with it . :) 19:09:33 I've tried a few zones, they can be as simple as just separating out services, or could be more like you are used to as a VM in VMWare. 19:11:03 a couple a sparse zones (where most of the system binaries are exactly the same as the host OS) one is to provide a jump host for external access. The other is running minidlna. 19:12:26 I've tried a couple of lx branded zones to run things designed for Linux that wern't going to be easy to port over to OmniOS. 19:13:54 I don't think I need any of that since I have a desktop running fedora and windows 11 in a vm 19:13:56 the lx zone runs a Linux userspace and the Illumous/OmniOS kernel provides an abstraction for the Linux system calls (most of what I was testing in that worked but there's one bit that's got an interesting issue I've not been ablt to diagnose yet) 19:14:55 You've got bhyve and kvm if you want a VM more like you're used to in VMWare (so you could run windows, linux or anything else you wanted in one of them) 19:14:58 I should just be content with nfs file sharing . 19:15:55 hopefully that gives a bit of an idea of what can be done. 19:18:59 my most recent playing was to setup an lx zone using a Debian 12 userspace to run the Unifi controller to test out an old AP. The benefit of that is I don't need a full VM for it so there's less overhead. 19:20:02 Otherwise I'd have had to setup a full debian VM on my fedora machine to run it with a much higher overhead 19:21:07 unifi zone is using about 1G of disk space and 1 19:22:13 probably not much ram - If I had to create a VM it would probably end up consuming at least 10G of disk space and 2GB ram