06:23:12 <antranigv> I'll be giving a talk about OmniOS tomorrow at a local event. I know the history of illumos pretty well, as well as the history of OmniOS (and OmniTI). My plan was to talk about ZFS, Zones, DTrace, SMF, FMA and common tasks and how they compare to their Linux and FreeBSD counterparts (prstat instead of top, etc). Anything a n00b like me might've missed? :)
06:33:10 <antranigv> Oh right, I forgot! Armenia's telecom is a Solaris-heavy environment. OmniOS still has Solaris 10 compat layer, right?
08:07:23 <ptribble> antranigv: yes, we still have the solaris10 brand, and it's still maintained and works well
08:09:47 <antranigv> They will be happy to hear that. everyone wants to ditch Oracle and no one wants Linux and they are not aware of illumos.
08:17:21 <ptribble> Although most applications from Solaris 10 should just work anyway due to binary compatibility
10:46:33 <tsoome> um, is bloody behind of illumos-gate?
10:48:02 <Woodstock> he said 20240111, which might be.
10:50:04 <tsoome> it does not seem to have '14608 ttymon should use tty-mode property', which is much older.... 
10:50:50 <Woodstock> hm, you're obviously talking about a different issue then :)
11:01:03 <ptribble> The downlaod page has 20240111 at the top, but 20240206 at the bottom
11:12:20 <tsoome> na I did pkg update, should have latest
11:16:30 <tsoome> I was a bit surprised the serial speed is not picked up and have no console unless I tune port down to 9600:/
11:20:44 <tsoome> having fun with Oracle X6-2 server:D
14:25:57 <ptribble> hadfl was asking me about jdk bootstraps - https://pkgs.tribblix.org/openjdk/
14:47:20 <tsoome> um, omnios instructions and env files need some love:/
14:59:12 <tsoome> openjdk11 is missing jre/lib/amd64/server tree to be usable for illumos build
14:59:45 <tsoome> same for openjdk17.
17:57:57 <ptribble> tsoome: the jre was removed entirely from java many releases ago
17:58:42 <tsoome> that sounds like the reason, except that gate does not know about it:)
18:06:07 <ptribble> Does it need to? We've been using jdk11 for a couple of years or so.
18:37:25 <tsoome> hm, howcome the build was failing with it then...
18:46:07 <ptribble> Uncommented BLD_JAVA_11= ?
20:49:25 <andyf> We build with jdk11 all the time - the example file is /opt/onbld/env/omnios-illumos-gate or https://downloads.omnios.org/env/
20:56:25 <tsoome> um, I used /opt/onbld/env/illumos
20:57:01 <andyf> Ah, that would explain it. I wonder why we ship that one
20:57:15 <andyf> You need omnios-illumos-gate for building gate, and omnios-illumos-omnios for building illumos-omnios
20:57:33 <tsoome> i see.
21:08:40 <antranigv> Andyf: that’s not confusing at all 😅😂
21:14:45 <andyf> I think it's confusing that we ship the stock "illumos" one straight out of gate. I think that's optimised for OpenIndiana
21:24:57 <rzezeski> FWIW, this is mentioned on the Building Illumos page: https://illumos.org/docs/developers/build/#omnios_1