20:25:28 <pmooney> hadfl: Thanks for the quick hotfix
20:26:54 <hadfl> you're welcome. let me know in case you face issues
20:31:23 <pmooney> will do, and hopefully we (collectively) can do some further thinking about how to avoid and/or mitigate stuff like this in the future
20:34:45 <pmooney> got a nightly build actually running now on my r42 machine, so the hotfix looks like a success
20:47:22 <hadfl> thanks for reporting back; and yes thinking about how to avoid/mitigate stuff like this sounds good although i am not sure the solution is just there
21:05:12 <richlowe> the key is to UPDATE YOUR BUILD MACHINES
21:05:28 <richlowe> (I understand the desire to build on LTS though, but that's on omnios to figure out if they want to)
21:08:43 <hadfl> agree, i think LTS systems are to run stuff not for development; yet we make the "promise" that it can be used for dev...
21:09:18 <andyf> We need to be better at catching these things that need backporting, but there should also be a delay between them being added to gate and used by things that build with native headers.
21:09:49 <andyf> That or we get more into using NATIVE_ADJUNCT, but I'd prefer not to
21:12:32 <danmcd> I only caught it with old-ass CN running a SmartOS build agent.  2/7 chance, but over three variants in a single build job, I'm pretty sure the chance of hitting one goes up to near-coinflip (25/49 if I did my math correctly).
21:13:05 <danmcd> (oops typo, 24/49)
21:13:24 <danmcd> Oh wait, that's 2 at once.  Lemme recompute...
21:14:03 <danmcd> Uggh, this is why I didn't do so well in Probability in college.  Figuring these out needs patience.
21:14:40 <richlowe> I'd talked to rm yesterday about using something like __FreeBSD_version
21:14:44 <richlowe> so we can at least tell people they're losing
21:14:56 <richlowe> but that means remembering, _a year later_
21:15:05 <richlowe> my sympathy tops out at maybe 6 weeks 
21:15:56 <richlowe> and my desire for real big adjuncts only covers dependencies on the target, not the host.
21:16:05 <richlowe> I firmly believe folks just have to maintain their stuff
21:16:16 <richlowe> but that's tainted by the history of the Nexenta series of companies just... not doing that.
21:16:19 <richlowe> for years.
21:16:37 <richlowe> I might be less of an asshole, otherwise