23:21:16 re:modernity of "solaris" in 2023: i just had to move one of my projects from an openbsd server to omnios because omnios has rustup and openbsd does not. :x 23:24:17 We have leant pretty hard on Rust, FWIW 23:24:47 Some folks in the community did some excellent early porting work, and Oxide obviously is using a lot of Rust so we've poured a bunch of engineer time into it 23:25:24 On the other hand OpenBSD has wifi that works -- it's all about what you (the person doing the work) personally need, ultimately 23:26:01 openbsd tries to do things... differently. sometimes for the better, sometimes not so much. 23:28:35 I respect their commitment to the bit 23:28:57 And I think they are a fantastic example of a project that is successful without being the most popular mainstream thing 23:29:10 Even if it is not a project I personally use haha 23:29:42 i had it on some of my laptops before i got a macbook 23:29:49 it worked very well 23:29:57 but i became lazy in my older age..